Kelsey Grammer looks like a motherfucker with some dark secrets

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Saw this dude in a local (suburban!) restaurant a couple of months ago, dining with a blonde and some other dude. He seemed happy and healthy, and AFAICT, I was the only one in the place who recognized him. Aside from the chef.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8386/frasier.gif

mr. vertical (schlump), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:28 (twelve years ago) link

i am actually kinda psyched for 'BOSS', incidentally. the trailer did not look so great but i think it has enough just 'elements i enjoy' to make me stick with it. it got renewed, already, also.

mr. vertical (schlump), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:29 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this might be the best pilot ive ever seen. gets increasingly implausible / grotesque in the last third, but i dont mind tbh.

, Thursday, 20 October 2011 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

From ‘Frasier’ to Filthy
Kelsey Grammer embraces his dark side as a seedy Chicago mayor. How much drama can he handle?

Kelsey Grammer is talking, of all things, about dismembered ears. Never mind whose ears they were; it’s what Grammer’s latest TV iteration does with them that counts. With cool confidence, the mighty mayor of Chicago he plays on his new TV series, Boss, shoves the pair down his garbage disposal and then casually mentions to his wife that they need a plumber.

Ruthless and twisted? Sure. But this is the kind of role the comedy giant has coveted for a decade. The scene, which comes early in the new Starz show (premiering Oct. 21 at 10 p.m.), leaves no room for conjecture about who his character, Mayor Tom Kane, is as a human being or a leader. He also stomps around with rage, shouts at his enemies, and is impenetrable to his underlings. As a man who has overcome formidable personal demons himself, Grammer says he is careful not to let Kane (seen below with his wife, played by Connie Nielsen) bleed into his psyche.

“I’m not one of those guys that draws on his personal experiences to fill a character,” Grammer says during a recent interview at Casa del Mar in Santa Monica, Calif. “I kind of just let my imagination grasp what it would feel like and then try to play it. I do worry, though, sometimes, like when I played Macbeth [on Broadway], because he’s so dark that it can affect your personal life.”

Just in case, before Grammer filmed the pivotal kitchen scene in the first episode, he stopped and “prayed a little bit.” After admitting that, he bursts out laughing and adds, “Of course, it’s always a little fun, too.”

As you might expect, the man who played Frasier Crane for 20 years enjoys a good laugh, and his is full and robust. But Grammer possesses a profundity that departs widely from his TV-sitcom persona and is in step with a human being who has faced several life-changing traumas. By the time he turned 25, Grammer had lost his estranged father to murder; his younger sister to rape and murder; and his two half-brothers to an accidental drowning. Turbulence followed him well into adulthood and middle age, even as he hit career gold with Cheers and its spinoff Frasier. Grammer, now a recovering cocaine addict and alcoholic, was arrested twice in the ’80s and ’90s for possession and drunken driving. At 56, he’s been married four times and has four children.

“Usually what f--ks up somebody or messes them up is enough for them,” Grammer says. “Everybody’s got their things that shape them, shift them, or turn them one way or another. And I had plenty of mine.”

In 2008 a heart attack shook his personal and professional worlds. The combination of the stress of a failed TV show (Fox’s comedy Back to You) and marital problems had taxed his system, he says. As he recovered, Grammer assessed the rest of his life, which led to the revelation that he no longer wanted to be married to his third wife, Camille Grammer, the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star and mother of his two young children. Their divorce and subsequent custody fight has kept the Grammer family in the tabloids for more than a year, as Camille learned of Grammer’s wishes and new relationship while filming her Bravo TV show.

“I realized that for the years we were together, it was functioning, it worked, but there was something missing. I realized it was not going to change after my heart attack,” says Grammer, who married Kayte Walsh last year, a couple of weeks after his divorce was final. “I stayed another two years, but I realized at that point that it wasn’t the last story I wanted to tell with my life. It just took me some courage to finally get the gumption up enough to make a move and change things.”

A sense of honesty also attracted Grammer to his new role. In playing the power-addicted Chicago mayor who learns he is dying from a degenerative brain disease, Grammer says he had to shut off all self-awareness. The opening scene of the series focuses entirely on Mayor Kane as he receives the devastating news from a doctor who monotonously runs down the litany of symptoms. Designed by creator and executive producer Farhad Safinia to erase all traces of Frasier Crane from the minds of viewers, the scene elicits a stirring performance by Grammer.

“It’s the first time I’m not really concerned about how I look when I do it,” Grammer says. “I hate it when actors start talking about their emotions and their equipment like we know the answers to all the world’s problems. This is just my job, and this job asked that I not watch myself. I never borrow from my personal life to perform. What happens if everything is good and things are firing on all the right cylinders, my personal life will just come along for the ride ... But if you can’t separate yourself from your character, then you’re probably crazy.”

This, from the man who readily admits that Frasier Crane is not completely gone.

“I’m still that way around the house,” he says, laughing. “There are times when my delivery to the dogs reminds me of Frasier.” He looks down at the floor, imagining he’s speaking to his pups: “‘Oh, really? Did we have to do that today?’ I’m still him.”

omar little, Thursday, 20 October 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

oh god yeah this was great, can we give it its own thread?
martin donovan!

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interspecies smalltalk (schlump), Thursday, 20 October 2011 02:04 (twelve years ago) link

okay i did this, BOSS, w/kelsey grammer, feat. martin donovan
if it's just me + ☆ in there then i promise to play one side of a measured, weekly post-ep discussion

interspecies smalltalk (schlump), Thursday, 20 October 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link

i was almost unaware starz still existed.

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/magazine/questions-for-kelsey-grammer.html?ref=magazine

Opening Q and A:

Q: There’s a scene in your new Starz show, “Boss,” when, as Mayor Tom Kane of Chicago, you open a package containing the ears of an activist who has been causing you trouble. Then you nonchalantly grind them up in your garbage disposal. Something tells me you’re more like this guy than Frasier Crane.

A: You actually hit on something there. One of the reasons I decided to do this show is that there’s so much that people don’t really get about who I am and who I’ve been for all these years.

your way better (Eazy), Sunday, 30 October 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

, like all the grinding up of ears i do

Local Christian Blues (schlump), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

hahahahaha

Local Christian Blues (schlump), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

can we have a stylesheet that incorporates this jpg intensively

Local Christian Blues (schlump), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

that just gave me goosebumps
terrifying

SELF DEPORTATION (Z S), Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:45 (twelve years ago) link

"good evening, have a seat", and then he forces you to take a seat.
"let me get you a drink" and he insists that you have a drink.

SELF DEPORTATION (Z S), Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

those were the very worst jokes

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 16 July 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://i.imgur.com/QX5o5.jpg

♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

"k dude, I'm about to give you the ace of spades"
"what?"
bzzzzzzz

electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link

i hope his tattoo is a photo-realistic copy of http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/1/30/1327915659498/64th-Annual-Directors-Gui-032.jpg

you're all going to hello (Z S), Thursday, 2 August 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

http://d3rm69wky8vagu.cloudfront.net/article-photos/large/3.160590.jpg

this Boss poster cracks me up every time I pass it on the subway. They're so nonchalant compared to that woman in Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

da croupier, Saturday, 11 August 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

^ditto; file under too much time on ilx.

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 11 August 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Jay Thomas (who played Carla's husband, Eddie LeBec): I would see Kelsey sometimes at 5 o'clock in the morning with no shoes on, pushing a sports car down the street with a half [passed-out] woman in the passenger seat. I'm pulling in to get gas, and I go, "Hey Kelsey! What are you doing?" And he goes, "Well hey, how are you?"

Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 27 September 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

I like the "sometimes", which would seem to indicate that this exact scenario played out multiple times.

Old Lunch, Thursday, 27 September 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

He stormed off Piers Morgan recently because they ran a picture of Camille (not because Morgan is a nitwit).

emilys., Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

lol i also immediately though of this thread when i read that anecdote, and also wondered 'is he sure she was only passed out...and not dead?'

balls, Friday, 28 September 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

The editorial change to his quote, "with a half [passed-out] woman..." has me wondering.

Half-pissed?

Half- fucked up?

Half - [makes thwwwpt sound with tongue]?

pplains, Friday, 28 September 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link

half-dead

wood grain, chestnut / cody, CHESNUTT (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 September 2012 04:32 (eleven years ago) link

nice deflection from kels there, answering jay's question with another question

omar little, Friday, 28 September 2012 04:35 (eleven years ago) link

can't stop imagining kelsey grammer appearing whenever an mc shouts IT'S MOTHERFUCKIN KELLS

let's get the banned back together (schlump), Friday, 28 September 2012 04:54 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

watching a Cheers where Diane says "just when my life seemed to be at its darkest, I met Frasier Crane"

captain keefaroo (some dude), Thursday, 10 January 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

That bearded grin above leaves me imagining a Hanneke/Grammer collab.

Chief Duff (Eazy), Thursday, 10 January 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Kelsey Grammer looks has always looked like a motherfucker with some dark secrets

says a future man to his crystal son (reddening), Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:38 (eleven years ago) link

Roz bring me my compact disc player. I want to listen to some classical music.

jaymc, Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:39 (eleven years ago) link

"The suspected shooter has been identified as 15- year old Allen Kelsey Grammer, a theater student at Pine Crest School."

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:41 (eleven years ago) link

almost looks like

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c163/wvferrell/dlr.jpg

pplains, Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:08 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

holy fucking shit u guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzMbIJpK-iU

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 12 April 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

William (Bill) Cary Zucker is an American actor, comedian, writer, performer and musician. He has often been associated with Kelsey Grammer, Jenny McCarthy, Gene Simmons and Dog The Bounty Hunter in various projects. He is a classically trained musician and can play Guitar (acoustic and electric), Pianos, Synthesizers and Strings, Drums and Percussion, Violin, Harmonica, Bass and assorted other stringed instruments.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 12 April 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

that zucker video is so aggressively unfunny and odd

gr8 tr∞lls i have known (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 April 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

Kelsey Grammer, Jenny McCarthy, Gene Simmons and Dog The Bounty Hunter

I had to look up Dog to confirm that he was crazy.

abanana, Saturday, 13 April 2013 02:09 (eleven years ago) link

i hope i will never grow tired of that video, ZS

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Saturday, 13 April 2013 09:44 (eleven years ago) link

the sound he made at 0:10 signaled the dead of a million puppies.

the kind of man who best draws girls' eyeballs (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 13 April 2013 10:10 (eleven years ago) link

also the dead of my English skills.

the kind of man who best draws girls' eyeballs (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 13 April 2013 10:12 (eleven years ago) link

This outtake from X-Men 3. There are no words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvHW1oIKUxI

It's like some lost episode of Frasier where Dr Crane has inexplicably been cast in a Hollywood blockbuster, and has decided to over-egg his small supporting role by inserting Shakespeare quotations into the script at every opportunity.

Pheeel, Sunday, 14 April 2013 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

If only they could have gotten Tony Randall/Felix Unger in on it too.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 April 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

lmao

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 14 April 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

is that scene supposed to be funny?

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 14 April 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link


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