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'i don't think football is the main issue herre'

yup i'd much prefer to play scottish football than european and premiership football if given the chance, its just so much more enticing.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 10:27 (twelve years ago) link

Turns out he already moved a couple of weeks ago. Still, spotters' badge for ailsa, and a fat cheque every week to the young lad.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 10:29 (twelve years ago) link

Lost a Feruz, gained a McBean.

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh) (boxall), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

oh shit not actually american

dan m, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

If McBean genuinely is good enough for the usmnt, why on earth would he switch to Scotland?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

Everton have agreed to sign 15-year-old Bradford City midfielder George Green in a deal that could eventually rise to £2 million.

Talks took place on Saturday, according to the Telegraph and Argus newspaper in Bradford, and a deal has been agreed that will see Everton pay almost £300,000 upfront plus bonuses based on appearances, new contracts and international appearances. A sell-on clause will also be included.

Bradford head of football development Archie Christie said Green, who has also attracted interest from Tottenham Hotspur and Rangers, has the potential to be a leading star.

"This is one of the highest deals ever for a 15-year-old from a League Two club, but George is the best I've seen in his position at his age," he said. "He could become another Wayne Rooney or Paul Gascoigne."

mizzell, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

It's almost touching that there are still people who see being the next Paul Gascoigne as a good thing

pandemic, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

George Green! He could be a stalwart from Preston's invincibles - it's like the footy equivalent of all those posh kids called Alfie or Rose.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

Hold on, "head of football development Archie Christie" - what year is it in Bradford?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

Everton, money?

(On the matter of names, I'm pretty sure that Jack McBean isn't remotely Scottish and his parents just decided to give him their idea of what a Scottish name would be.)

http://www.boyfrombrazil.co.uk/2011/10/remember-the-name-george-green/

r|t|c, Monday, 3 October 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

whatever happened to Danny Gosling?

isn't house rubbish and Pete W mental (Pete W), Monday, 3 October 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

I like that article xp and it's churlish to criticise what is, after all, a pretty excellent exclusive - but gosh, it's hard work to read. Every sentence has mangled syntax or missing commas; it takes a couple of goes to work out what's being said.

I guess I'm saying well done ILF, you lot are a breeze to read and I don't usually notice.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway, George Green - I'm a fan already.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

TOP SCHOOLBOY SIGNINGS

Michael Woods & Tom Taiwo, Leeds to Chelsea, £5m, both aged 16, 2007
Jermaine Pennant, Notts County to Arsenal, £2m, aged 15, 1999
John Bostock, Crystal Palace to Tottenham, £2m, aged 16, 2008
Dean Parrett, QPR to Tottenham, £2m, aged 15, 2007
John Cofie, Burnley to Manchester United, £1m, aged 14, 2009
Scott Sinclair, Bristol Rovers to Chelsea, £1m, aged 16, 2005

r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 08:06 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Chelsea have agreed to pay a staggering £2million to make an MK Dons youth-team player the most expensive 14-year-old in football.

Teenage sensation Oluwaseyi Ojo is viewed as one of the hottest prospects in English football, with Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City all having tracked the youngster.

But Chelsea have won the race to sign the midfielder after making three offers for Ojo while he was playing for England Under 16s against Northern Ireland at Chesterfield on Wednesday.

The teenager was introduced as a half-time substitute and made an impact after two minutes, setting up Mason Bennett's second as England secured a 3-1 win.

The impressive cameo sparked an incredible series of bids from Chelsea during the game. Knowing that scouts from the country's other top clubs were also at the game, they made three bids in 45 minutes. MK Dons rejected the opening two offers before agreeing a package understood to be worth an initial £1.5million, plus another £500,000 in add-ons.

On paper it is not hard to see why Chelsea have paid a record fee paid for the 14-year-old - who joined the League One club in 2007.
Despite his tender age, Ojo has already been invited to train with Karl Robinson’s first team. Furthermore, he made his debut for the Dons’ Under-18 team aged just 13 and is already a fixture for the Under-16’s.

Chelsea’s youth coaches will take a closer look at Ojo upon his arrival at the club’s Cobham HQ before deciding which age group he should begin his Blues education.

r|t|c, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link

i was pleasantly surprised to see he cited xavi iniesta and cesc as his ideals/idols

nakhchivan, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

Derby County's new 15-year-old wonderkid Mason Bennett was prevented from making his debut because club officials were wary that he had to be up early for school the next morning.

Bennett - who is being tracked by Manchester City - looks set to make his first-team bow this weekend at Middlesbrough after being sidelined for the trip to Reading on Tuesday.

Clough said: 'It won't be a problem this weekend, because he's breaking up for half-term next week.'

Bennett was born on the day England beat Scotland at Euro 96 and will beat Derby's previous record holder Lee Holmes as the youngest player in their history by 169 days if he plays on Saturday.

r|t|c, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/xO9O7.png

omg best name ever

r|t|c, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

Led by Chelsea’s superb box-to-box enforcer Ruben Loftus-Cheek, this current crop of England starlets has real depth. Arsenal’s Jordan Brown, MK Dons’ Oluwaseyi Ojo and Aston Villa’s Dan Crowley all made impressions off the bench, showing a real swagger and style with the ball.

Manager Kenny Swain has a huge pool of talent to choose from, and will likely rotate his whole squad next time out against Wales. Expect more prospects to show themselves, including Alex Iwobi, a teenage Arsenal forward, and the nephew of Nigerian legend Jay-Jay Okocha.

The future is looking good.

r|t|c, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2051541/Former-Chelsea-starlet-Taiwo-I-let-down.html

La Masia isnt the be all and end all, if you look at the technically gifted players they produce how many good defenders have come out of it?

- Martin, Belfast, 21/10/2011 10:48

r|t|c, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:46 (twelve years ago) link

re: McBean -- Galaxy started a lot of youth this past weekend losing @ Houston

Perhaps the only bright spot of the match for the Galaxy involved a 16-year-old striker. Jack McBean, who hails from nearby Newport Beach, Calif., scored his first goal of the season as he made his MLS debut.

bomb.gif (dan m), Monday, 24 October 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

"Our academy is absolutely essential to us," said Parish. "For one thing, it helps us establish real deep roots in the community in which we play."

Palace have a tradition of promoting local heroes. Gary Issott, the academy chief, said: "London is hugely populated so we can draw on a good pool of players. And the demographics of our area works in our favour."

Moses went to school in South Norwood after arriving in this country from Nigeria and Zaha settled in the area having moved from the Ivory Coast.

Issott added: "A lot of African lads end up here, you just wait for them to walk through Heathrow or Gatwick."

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZT10xoWHXBI

I had no idea Cruijff's grandson, 17 year old Jessua Andrea Angoy Cruijff, plays for the Latics! o_O

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-snap-up-prodigy-Charlie-Jackson-at-age-just-five-article830799.html

He would barely reach Wayne ­Rooney’s midriff, but football mad Charlie Jackson has been snapped up by Manchester United, aged five.

Old Trafford scouts spotted his incredible soccer skills when he was just three but had to wait until he was old enough to join their development centre.

Charlie now trains with top-rated youngsters almost all a year older than him. And coaches are tipping him as a future superstar.

Parents Andy and Claire, both 38, said they could not be happier he has joined the Reds, even though the family are all fans of bitter rivals Manchester City.

Accountant Andy said: “His idols are Joe Hart and Mario Balotelli and at first he was mortified that he was having to train with United, but he seems to be getting over that bit now. He loves it.

“It’s an amazing opportunity. Everywhere we go people notice him because of his ­football talent. People just stand and watch him. They can’t believe he’s only five because he’s so good.”

Charlie, who lives with his parents and older brother Jake, 12, in Denton, Greater Manchester, was spotted by United while playing at a local soccer scheme called Footytotz.

Andy said he has no long-term goals for his son. He added: “There’s no pressure, but it would be nice if he plays for City one day.”

Number None, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

i thought clubs in england arent allowed to sign anyone till 9? is this a case of 'man utd have an unofficial u5 kids group in the local kids leagues, before he can sign in 4 years time' or did the rules change?

GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

theo walcott

modric conservative (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

wayne rooney

Number None, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/18/article-2088046-0F829DE400000578-915_468x312.jpg

Chelsea have signed three brothers from the Luton youth squad for a five-figure sum each.

Twins Rio and Cole Dasilva, 12, as well as 13-year-old sibling Jay have joined the Chelsea academy after five years at Luton.

mizzell, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

fuckin rio fuckin cole wtf

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

Rio, Cole and Jay Dasilva: proper made-up footballer names tbh

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

not a specific player but

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/sports/soccer/soccers-all-year-model-forces-high-school-players-to-choose.html

this is big news in the states, given the sheer number of kids playing the game

dan m, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 04:15 (twelve years ago) link

That's interesting. It accords with my own diagnosis that I've banged on about here before, that the US basically doesn't work hard enough at sport, and when it does work hard it does so completely haphazardly. Which is fine where you're the dominant league, competing only with yourself or maybe internationally with Lithuania or the Dominican Republic; but it's not a competitive approach for soccer.

The thing is that the American approach to sports in general looks far more attractive, sitting here, so in one sense this is a shame, a professional career replacing a college education as the aspiration. On the other hand, how good might Landon Donovan have been if he'd been hothoused? Where might Clint Dempsey be now?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 09:24 (twelve years ago) link

“It’s awkward,” Enna said. “You look at LeBron James — he played for his high school and went pro. Why do we have to give it up?”

The opposition to this seems to half think that these kids are going to drop out of school? Whereas it just amounts to a v. well run after/out-of-school class, like getting high grade guitar lessons from a specialist guitar teacher.

Also it is great pointing to the likes of LeBron in the article but you have to wonder how many great atheletes America has missed out on by connecting it so severely with the education system, one that most critics could point to a Wire S4-esque situation of failure for a lot of kids.

I just read The Art of Fielding and ok, it is purposefully a literary novel about smart people but it makes it seem like half a college baseball team is working off genius. Whereas if I offered half a professional football team in this country that 500 page novel - about sports - to read, they'd look at me like i was asking them to do quantum physics. While it seems like European football is too busy preparing youngsters of potential to become footballers and nothing else, America doesn't seem to prepare them to become footballers unless they do it themselves, too busy going to college and whatever. A middle ground is needed.

Considering the CRAZY figure of how many people play football in America, it should produce more than 2 players worth exporting a year. I wonder how much of this failure is based on it being the 5th most popular sport. If basketball had such a worldwide hysteria and similar training systems, would America be as dominant as it is today? Or would they just bow their heads, understand they need to do it what is increasingly being called the 'Stoke City' method?

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

For advocates of the previous system, however — in which the Development Academy’s schedule typically broke for the scholastic season and players were free to join their school squads — the sacrifices required by this shift are too great. Dan Woog, the boys soccer coach at Staples High School in Westport, Conn., recalled the night his team won a league championship several years ago and a group of players showed up at a diner afterward with their championship medals around their necks.

Suddenly, the other customers in the diner — a majority of them Westport residents — stood up and spontaneously gave the players a standing ovation. The players beamed.

“They’re going to remember that the rest of their lives,” Woog said. “They felt like kings. That’s not going to happen in the academy.”

No, if they go to the academy they will be properly trained atheletes going for worldwide prestige, untold millions and the opportunity to become Americas first true soccer star. But you know, that one time as a teenager...

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago) link

the point is the current system is rooted in communities and it allows a bunch of kids who have no chance of becoming professionals to be in the spotlight for a while.
doesn't matter how many kids play soccer, without a culture in the usa that follows and obsesses over it, i don't think it will produce great players. so many american players are immigrants or the children of immigrants and therefore have exposure to a soccer-obsessed culture.
interesting to read foreign opinions on us sport culture, but i have never thought that americans don't work hard enough on sports and i am pretty sure the art of fielding has absolutely noting to do with actual baseball.

mizzell, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

also don't believe for a second that usa wouldn't dominate in basketball if other countries were crazy for it. more likely (to me) that usa would dominate soccer if it was the most popular sport here.

mizzell, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

well yeah it doesnt seem like it even cares to be an accurate baseball novel. good read tho.

even now america most probably has enough people in it that obsess over football as a midsized european country albeit spread out over a landmass the size of Europe. If Portugal or Denmark or Croatia can produce the likes of Suker or the Laudrups or Figo, I don't think America are pulling their weight for their current soccer-culture, let alone American sporting culture.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

Can't wait til China puts together an uber-team to put the NBA in its place

Number None, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

also don't believe for a second that usa wouldn't dominate in basketball if other countries were crazy for it. more likely (to me) that usa would dominate soccer if it was the most popular sport here.

― mizzell, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:43 (4 minutes ago)

This was regarding how they develop, fyi. In Brazil or Spain their college equiv. would be playing professionally and against the best, possibly at an international level for the three years someone would be at college learning Media Studies. It justs seems odd that you wouldn't encourage talented atheletes to be schooled to enhance their abilities the same way there are performing arts schools etc.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

trust me, the most talented atheletes spend plenty of time getting coached and practicing in their college years. much much less time spent studying.

mizzell, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

oh i dont doubt that

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

not exactly ahead of the game here as he's 17 and has already been spotted by a few bigger clubs and trained with Liverpool but this lad Joel Pohjanpalo is worth watching - a perfect hat-trick in two minutes in only his second senior game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibHRquIsXkg

we are not bemused (onimo), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

There's a kid who's obviously got it imo. Nice to see some domestic Finnish footy too. Feel for these journeyman pros though tbh, suddenly reduced to fodder for this child on his way to bigger things.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

if ever he gets fat and useless, big joel pohjanpalo would be a great name for a big

i think the only suomi fitba ive seen was that clip from when roy hodgson was manager of their national team and an owl landed on the pitch

30th best league in Europe, apparently. Jari Litmanen's still going!

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

Gaga from Chicago has been attracting attention. He played well as starter for a shitty team the last third of the season or so. My friend's little brother is super tight with him, says it's been a wild ride for the dude.

https://www.90min.com/posts/gabriel-slonina-attracting-interest-serie-a-bundesliga-la-liga-transfers

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 14 January 2022 01:13 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Lamine Yamal crowned becoming the youngest men’s player in Spain’s history by scoring in his country’s 7-1 win against Georgia.

Yamal, aged 16 years and 57 days, came on as a first-half substitute in the Group A Euro 2024 qualifier, to break the record set by Gavi in 2021 when the Barcelona star was aged 17 years and 62 days.

sell cigs to kids (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 9 September 2023 19:24 (seven months ago) link

some 16 year old scored the winner at the valley for brum the other day but it was a tap-in cos we forgot how to defend so prodigy status is on hold idk

― imago, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 19:52 (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Tap in's still - literally - miles away from kicking a ball into a skip from quite far away. Supposed prodigy cancelled.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 19:55 (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink

jude bellingham fyi

imago, Saturday, 9 September 2023 19:34 (seven months ago) link

sharivari getting erling haaland in just before I said that besting me yet again, curses etc

imago, Saturday, 9 September 2023 19:34 (seven months ago) link

Everton have agreed to sign 15-year-old Bradford City midfielder George Green in a deal that could eventually rise to £2 million.

Talks took place on Saturday, according to the Telegraph and Argus newspaper in Bradford, and a deal has been agreed that will see Everton pay almost £300,000 upfront plus bonuses based on appearances, new contracts and international appearances. A sell-on clause will also be included.

Bradford head of football development Archie Christie said Green, who has also attracted interest from Tottenham Hotspur and Rangers, has the potential to be a leading star.

"This is one of the highest deals ever for a 15-year-old from a League Two club, but George is the best I've seen in his position at his age," he said. "He could become another Wayne Rooney or Paul Gascoigne."

Currently playing for Thackley in the Northern Counties East League Premier Division.

I didn't mean to single that guy out but that one jumped out at me. Frankly, most of these guys went on to have totally mediocre and occasionally disastrous careers. Which I find somewhat depressing tbh.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 September 2023 19:55 (seven months ago) link

THIS talented Irish player is set to take the football world by storm — after signing for Barcelona FC.

Zak Gilsenan, nine, from Castleknock, Dublin, has been snapped up by the Spanish giants after wowing scouts when he scored SEVEN goals in a trial.

Now 20 and playing for Blackburn Rovers, he hasn't actually played a league game for any team yet but I notice he played one game for the Ireland under-21 team this year - and scored! Fingers crossed we don't have another George Green on our hands.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 September 2023 20:04 (seven months ago) link

come on ye poison green

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 September 2023 22:48 (seven months ago) link

i think the vast majority who show class at a young sge are destined to not need to find either the work ethic or professionalism or ego management traits or whatever might support them through the slow emergence into consistent first team talents

most hyped 19 year olds seem to lose their way ffs, let alone tadpoles as featured itt

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 September 2023 22:51 (seven months ago) link

Is this where we talk about Baby Gronk?

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 10 September 2023 01:22 (seven months ago) link

Baby Gronkjaer lol

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 11 September 2023 10:44 (seven months ago) link


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