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I don't think that dialect is necessarily black and I'm kind of wondering if that was the real context McWhorter's quote was in!

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's why I posted it here. personally I don't think this is anything but most of the posters on this board are a little more sensitive than I am on those issues

frogbs, Monday, 26 September 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

But yeah, it is not anything. More of a journalistic accuracy in quoting debate than anything.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

Despite the outcry, organizers said the sale would go forward unless they were threatened with physical violence. Mr. Lewis said Republican groups from nearby colleges — including the University of California, Davis; California State University, Sacramento; and Saint Mary’s College of California — had called to say they were sending carloads of supporters to the bake sale.

oh my god...they're multiplying

dayo, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:56 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5peC9wFu64w

dayo, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:00 (twelve years ago) link

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/joelherrick/obama%20fried%20chicken.jpg

I would guess there's a 1% chance your average chinese person knows about the stereotype

dayo, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

I would guess there's a 1% chance your average chinese person knows about the stereotype

Is this racist?

crutbeef (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

yep

dayo, Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

isn't China the place where they made & sold Darkie Toothpaste until about a decade ago?

pork tartare (Eisbaer), Monday, 3 October 2011 05:34 (twelve years ago) link

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4ebKDFxiia8/TPfyKmogVdI/AAAAAAAAIn4/UQnLLwPdwHU/s1600/darlie.jpg

actually, it was Taiwan.

pork tartare (Eisbaer), Monday, 3 October 2011 05:35 (twelve years ago) link

same difference

(╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

WTF why is Barack Obama making Asian stereotype face? I mean with the squinty eyes and mongoloid expression.

Also that changed toothpaste is still offensive to me, it reminds me of when white people could barely deal with Lena Horne.

Was watching this great video of Quincy and Herbie fooling around with a Fairlight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6QsusDS_8A

But then was o_O at the question at 5:20. Is this racist?

ste throkes (Ówen P.), Monday, 10 October 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

Actually, it's 5:05 or so. Don't skip ahead! Great video!

ste throkes (Ówen P.), Monday, 10 October 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

That was an awesome video.

The question itself could have been phrased better, especially since it almost sounded like a contrast was being made between "sophisticated" and "African". It certainly doesn't seem like that was the intent and Herbie gave a great response to it nonetheless.

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 10 October 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/RrIk7.png

dayo, Saturday, 22 October 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

was at a kid's bday party last week where there was facepainting, one little (white) boy insisted that he wanted to be facepainted as a "ninja" so the facepainter tried to oblige by painting his entire face black. you can imagine what the end result looked like. the parent was sort of mortified/afraid to walk home without washing it off. kid was completely oblivious (obviously).

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

the facepainter could have just given him a TMNT mask

dayo, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

‎"After Obama shook hands and chatted with a young African American boy who looked to be about 10, and then moved on, the boy turned to the white man he was dining with and said, 'I’m never going to wash my hand again.' "

From:
Obama L.A. visit: President makes unscheduled stop at Rosco's Chicken and Waffles
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/10/obama-roscoes-west-la.html

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

tbh I thought this was a better candidate for this thread:

ALSO:

Man in gorilla mask and carrying stun gun robs taco stand

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

But then was o_O at the question at 5:20. Is this racist?

― ste throkes (Ówen P.), Monday, 10 October 2011

herbie's response is used as the start of this (excellent) Aybee mix for lwe

http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/podcast/lwe-podcast-101-aybee/

post, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/notokay-avatar.png

pplains, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry, meant to post that to the blueface thread.

pplains, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

I don't care if you're black, white, purple, or blue.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

New Black Keys video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a_426RiwST8#!

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 October 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

well, i mean just look at their name

J0rdan S., Friday, 28 October 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

no need to point out alicia's race

J0rdan S., Friday, 28 October 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to go with "not racist" for that one. Do you feel that the man is somehow demeaned by the video?

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

I would dance to that song

dayo, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhkpR1NoEmY

nakhchivan, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to go with "not racist" for that one. Do you feel that the man is somehow demeaned by the video?

― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, October 28, 2011 1:10 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think the Tim&Eric/BlackKeys aesthetic of "tap dance for us, peculiar black man" is p fucking suspect, which is why i ask, "Is this racist?"

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

pretty much everything painted in the Tim & Eric aesthetic is suspect, which is why the stuff that works is so amazing and the stuff that doesn't is so unbearable

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

"tap dance for us, peculiar black man"

there is no tap dancing in that Black Keys video. if anything, the guy is doing the dance that every white guy in 80s teen sex comedies used to do

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

y'know, the "running in place" thing. overbite optional.

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

hey shakey let me introduce you to the concept of figurative speech,

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

is "peculiar" figurative too cuz I don't see anything peculiar about that guy

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

he does appear to be actually black

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

the thing that strikes me is that they've got a video of a black man dancing vaguely like Carlton Banks as a video for a song called "Lonely Boy"; that definitely registers as "sketchy"

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

is whiney racist for finding that black man to be peculiar?

dayo, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

his dancing is peculiar, white or black

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

now I'm gonna feel weird every time I lol @ Carlton dancing

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

that sort of 'droll' 'deadpan' 'mnml' video aesthetic, if it is of a sort, is really terrible regardless of whether the incongrously terpsichorean figure-of-fun is white, purple or even black

nakhchivan, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

I don't see what the Lonely Boy title has to do with it...?

kinda more inclined to agree with nakhchivan

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

you know white people used to demean and degrade black men by always referring to them as "boy", right

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

it is not nearly as bad as if the song had been called "Lonely Jungle Bunny" but it's near that territory

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

i think the Tim&Eric/BlackKeys aesthetic of "tap dance for us, peculiar black man" is p fucking suspect, which is why i ask, "Is this racist?"

― Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 28, 2011 1:50 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I don't know anything about their aesthetic. Do they do this often?

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

I'm totally seeing Dan's point about "boy" though.

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

"I was cast as an extra, and there were maybe six or seven other people who were supposedly going to be in the video. ... I was the first one to perform in the video. It was a motel shot where the guys from the Black Keys come and give me the keys to their motel room," he said. "The director just sort of noticed me dancing and asked me, 'Can you perform?' I said, 'I can dance, anybody can dance,' so I took some moves from everybody: John Travolta from 'Saturday Night Fever' and 'Pulp Fiction,' the Carlton Banks dance from 'The Fresh Prince' and a little bit of Michael Jackson, so it was a smorgasbord of everybody in there.

"It was just a spur-of-the-moment thing," Tuggle added. "My acting teacher Mark McPherson, he has us do this thing before we start class called 'Song and Dance,' where he'll have us sing one of our favorite songs, and then while we're singing it, he'll have us do a crazy dance, or a sexy dance, and I guess it spawned from that."

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

I agree that this video is "suspect" but at the same time I also assume the "boy" thing is an unfortunate oversight rather than an intentional thing. a lot of young white folx don't know that connotation of "boy."

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link


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