Sly Stone S/D

so sad:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/the_rise_and_fall_of_sly_stone_qijyKoYzmAqer1PA0YogSJ

that is very sad.

I want to say in that MOJO piece a couple of years ago that he was living in semi-squalor even then. Anyway, the guy's nuts and an addict. But most guys don't carry around a "get out of poverty" card like he does. If he could get his act together, he could play a few shows. But even Gil-Scott was doing better than this ...

resonance had an hour or two about sly stone, sometime, um, within the last year that's really worth checking out.

cocaine is so awesome!

ugh wtf.

I'd like to see the documentary they mention, but it looks like it barely played anywhere. It's only 74 minutes long, has eight IMDB ratings, and debuted on Netherlands television.

wow, that's bad. He's basically like the homeless dude on our block, with about the same support network (ie neighbors).

If you're curious about what Sly's camper van era recordings sound like, here's a taste

Apparently there's a new album, mostly reworkings of catalogue material with special guests. Wish I could have been a fly on the wall when he crammed Ann Wilson into the van. Okay maybe not. More good news: it's on Cleopatra Records. Further good news: dubstep mix of Family Affair. That'll get Gaga's attention.

oh good autotune

Apparently there's a new album, mostly reworkings of catalogue material with special guests. Wish I could have been a fly on the wall when he crammed Ann Wilson into the van. Okay maybe not. More good news: it's on Cleopatra Records. Further good news: dubstep mix of Family Affair. That'll get Gaga's attention.

...please tell me you're kidding.

Ned, I'm so sorry, but the universe from which I am transmitting this news is not in some alternate parallel plane.

My brain. Do you have a direct link to this info anywhere? People must be warned.

It's called (wait for it...) "I'm Back: Family and Friends" and here is the amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Back-Family-Friends-Sly-Stone/dp/B0057JWWFU

^^it got like, three stars in Rolling Stone.

so, almost as good as the SuperHeavy album then

Yeah there was a display for this at Barnes & Noble, I picked it up and gave a firm shake of my head.

Sly is not credited as having played on the remake tracks; aside from the guest cameos the instruments were all played by Jurgen Engler and Chris Lietz. Hadn't heard of them but Wikipedia tells me they're former members of the German industrial rock band Die Krupps.

It's available on spotify if you're a masochist http://open.spotify.com/album/52C9QFWsfF3Kzb8riRPJzj if you thought that 'Dance To The Music' really needed Ray Manzarek to noodle all over it then it might be for you I guess.

If you're curious about what Sly's camper van era recordings sound like, here's a taste

this is awesome?
seriously i would buy a record of this, it totally has the kinda slinky shuffly thing i love the most about sly. am really surprised + wanna hear more

it is not awesome

I hear what you're saying about it containing some of his readily identifiable stylistic tics but still

"if i didn't love you, i wouldn't like your ass at all..."

i dig it

"Family Stone" are touring here in a month or two* - anyone know who's in this apart from Vet Stone (og backing singer) and Cynthia Robinson (og horn/backing singer)?

*on a festival with Flaming Lips, Mogwai, Portishead, Death In Vegas, Holy Fuck and Mercury Rev

I hear what you're saying about it containing some of his readily identifiable stylistic tics but still

I would buy a record of songs like that. It's really not bad.

Esp if they were hazy weirdly recorded demos like that.

yeah. i don't know whether there would be an inevitable 'let's get these into a studio & do them justice!' phase, at which the guy from the behind the scenes seinfeld segments who explains the various keyboard motifs used in the show suddenly pops up. but i would buy a record of those demos, word.

Autotune or not, it's more interesting from a stylistic standpoint than I'd expect from a guy who hasn't made a record in 30 years.

yeah it is just- like i would have expected some kind of watered down 'take' on the group's bigger/more out there in your face stuff rather than something that sits comfortably in the parameters of sloochy-solo-weird-keyboard jams

yeah. i don't know whether there would be an inevitable 'let's get these into a studio & do them justice!' phase, at which the guy from the behind the scenes seinfeld segments who explains the various keyboard motifs used in the show suddenly pops up. but i would buy a record of those demos, word.

Autotune or not, it's more interesting from a stylistic standpoint than I'd expect from a guy who hasn't made a record in 30 years.

yeah it is just- like i would have expected some kind of watered down 'take' on the group's bigger/more out there in your face stuff rather than something that sits comfortably in the parameters of sloochy-solo-weird-keyboard jams

the winding, kinda bluesy vocal melody & the keyboard part that comes in half way through are both great, i really love this

& the keyboards/organs sound great, the underlying organ part is like a robert lippok record or something

jeeeezus this is grim

have not watched, but assuming that tmz just zipped over to the guy's trailer to dig some dirt, maybe the documentary guy shouldn't have written a story about how sly lives in a van, included its permanent address & sold it to the post

I don't think TMZ did the interview, it was originally posted here...?

http://www.5min.com/Video/Exclusive---Homeless-Music-Legend-Sly-Stone-Admits-To-Recent-Drug-Use-517169072

that was so sad I had to stop watching. One thing's clear, though--Sly's voice is gone...hell Sly himself seems nearly gone. I'd rather see that dude get healthy than hear any new music.

can barely bring myself to contemplate what's happened to the guy, 'riot' is sometimes my favorite album ever and 'stand' ain't far behind. just terrible to think about.

This vintage clip is wonderful. Check out the face of the girl at 0:27. As a friend on Twitter pointed out, it reminds you what it was like before everybody became conscious of being on camera. It's pure, unselfconscious joy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdVClbOYwI&feature=related

It was also before they invented being jaded. Also, crossing your arms and frowning.

HE SHOULD HAVE STUCK WITH BUTTERMILK!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_Ll2AleUY0

Sly's voice is gone...hell Sly himself seems nearly gone. I'd rather see that dude get healthy than hear any new music.

^^^

decades of crack/cocaine is really hard on the vocal chords

Speaking of funk, isn't George Clinton allegedly a longtime functioning crack/cocaine addict?

yeah - GC's last arrest for cocaine/crack was in the parking lot of 7/11 in Ohio somewhere iirc...? That Clinton is even still alive and performing is a small miracle. (His voice, which was never all that melodious to begin with, is completely shot too btw). I'm not aure how Clinton has managed to keep going while someone like Sly falls by the wayside. Part of it may just be that Clinton has a much bigger support network/organization, I dunno...

What Sly needs is a Phil intervention:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLH32F6Xvkw

Clinton kinda tight with the old purse strings... according to various ex P-Funkers

yeah there's that

Clinton also seems willing/eager to work though - tours constantly, guest appearances, albums, etc.

He's been a businessman since he ran the barbershop back in Plainfield

Parliafunkadelicment never had the massive hits that Sly did, so their commercial troughs wouldn't have been very deep (and therefore, disillusioning/disheartening/demoralizing), compared to Sly's. But yeah, Clinton never stopped touring (and he generally tended to show up to his shows).

Mind you, think he's been bankrupt at least once

huh had no idea clinton was still a drug abuser -- he just played in my neck of the woods. interviews i've read with him actually seem pretty together. guess he's figured out how to function for the most part.