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No wonder the United States has lost it's hegemony in advanced education. They've been dumbing down the Universities and school system for the best part of 50 years now - as we have in Australia. The whole system has been devalued with this political correctness idea that no-one should get an "F" and thus we have the situation where 16 year-old are learning the maths I'd mastered in 3rd Grade.

What does this have to do with racism?

badg, Monday, 26 September 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

Haha oh right it's a comment from the article, I thought it looked weird

badg, Monday, 26 September 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

you have lost you'r hegemony in comprehension

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 26 September 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

it is worth noting that the UC system does have not (de jure) affirmative action (there is a little bit of de facto.) so this is an affirmative action protest at a school where most of the black people are there out of sportsffirmative action - pretty sure most of the BCR are fine with the football team.

iatee, Monday, 26 September 2011 01:28 (twelve years ago) link

yeah not really sure what they're protesting tbh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_209_(1996)

dayo, Monday, 26 September 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link

The bake sale, run by the Berkeley College Republicans, was created in reaction to SB 185, a bill currently being considered by Gov. Jerry Brown, which would authorize California public universities to consider race, gender, ethnicity, and national/geographic origin in the admissions process.

Kerm, Monday, 26 September 2011 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

no, they do it regularly

iatee, Monday, 26 September 2011 02:12 (twelve years ago) link

http://clutterinclarityout.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/jerry-brown.jpg

should consider eyebrow magnificence in the electoral process

remy bean, Monday, 26 September 2011 02:12 (twelve years ago) link

hmmmm, this is a toughie

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/associated-press-transcription-obama-cbc-speech-racist-173438340.html

Via the AP version:

"Take off your bedroom slippers. Put on your marching shoes," he said, his voice rising as applause and cheers mounted. "Shake it off. Stop complainin'. Stop grumblin'. Stop cryin'. We are going to press on. We have work to do."

Hunter called the AP's version "inherently racist," sparring with New Republic contributing editor and noted linguistics expert John McWhorter, who argued the g-less version "is actually the correct one," noting that the president's victory in the 2008 election was due, in part, to how effortlessly "he can switch into that (black) dialect."

Whatever the reason, Hunter found it offensive. "I teach a journalism class, and I tell my students to fix people's grammar, because you don't want them to sound ignorant," she said. "For them to do that, it's code, and I don't like it."

It's worth noting that the same sorts of arguments arose during George W. Bush's presidency, with the White House cleaning up the president's speeches to make him sound smarter, and news outlets sometimes not doing so.

According to Mark Smith, the AP reporter who filed the story, Obama was making a point by dropping his g's, making the transcription a no-brainer.

frogbs, Monday, 26 September 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think it's that tough. Whatever McWhorter's politics (he's a slightly left-leaning centrist who voted for Obama, who unfortunately also sometimes plays a right wing hack on tv), I think he's a fair-minded, middle-of-the-road linguist.

bamcquern, Monday, 26 September 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think that dialect is necessarily black and I'm kind of wondering if that was the real context McWhorter's quote was in!

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's why I posted it here. personally I don't think this is anything but most of the posters on this board are a little more sensitive than I am on those issues

frogbs, Monday, 26 September 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

But yeah, it is not anything. More of a journalistic accuracy in quoting debate than anything.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

Despite the outcry, organizers said the sale would go forward unless they were threatened with physical violence. Mr. Lewis said Republican groups from nearby colleges — including the University of California, Davis; California State University, Sacramento; and Saint Mary’s College of California — had called to say they were sending carloads of supporters to the bake sale.

oh my god...they're multiplying

dayo, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:56 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5peC9wFu64w

dayo, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:00 (twelve years ago) link

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/joelherrick/obama%20fried%20chicken.jpg

I would guess there's a 1% chance your average chinese person knows about the stereotype

dayo, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

I would guess there's a 1% chance your average chinese person knows about the stereotype

Is this racist?

crutbeef (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

yep

dayo, Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

isn't China the place where they made & sold Darkie Toothpaste until about a decade ago?

pork tartare (Eisbaer), Monday, 3 October 2011 05:34 (twelve years ago) link

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4ebKDFxiia8/TPfyKmogVdI/AAAAAAAAIn4/UQnLLwPdwHU/s1600/darlie.jpg

actually, it was Taiwan.

pork tartare (Eisbaer), Monday, 3 October 2011 05:35 (twelve years ago) link

same difference

(╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

WTF why is Barack Obama making Asian stereotype face? I mean with the squinty eyes and mongoloid expression.

Also that changed toothpaste is still offensive to me, it reminds me of when white people could barely deal with Lena Horne.

Was watching this great video of Quincy and Herbie fooling around with a Fairlight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6QsusDS_8A

But then was o_O at the question at 5:20. Is this racist?

ste throkes (Ówen P.), Monday, 10 October 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

Actually, it's 5:05 or so. Don't skip ahead! Great video!

ste throkes (Ówen P.), Monday, 10 October 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

That was an awesome video.

The question itself could have been phrased better, especially since it almost sounded like a contrast was being made between "sophisticated" and "African". It certainly doesn't seem like that was the intent and Herbie gave a great response to it nonetheless.

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 10 October 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/RrIk7.png

dayo, Saturday, 22 October 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

was at a kid's bday party last week where there was facepainting, one little (white) boy insisted that he wanted to be facepainted as a "ninja" so the facepainter tried to oblige by painting his entire face black. you can imagine what the end result looked like. the parent was sort of mortified/afraid to walk home without washing it off. kid was completely oblivious (obviously).

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

the facepainter could have just given him a TMNT mask

dayo, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

‎"After Obama shook hands and chatted with a young African American boy who looked to be about 10, and then moved on, the boy turned to the white man he was dining with and said, 'I’m never going to wash my hand again.' "

From:
Obama L.A. visit: President makes unscheduled stop at Rosco's Chicken and Waffles
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/10/obama-roscoes-west-la.html

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

tbh I thought this was a better candidate for this thread:

ALSO:

Man in gorilla mask and carrying stun gun robs taco stand

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

But then was o_O at the question at 5:20. Is this racist?

― ste throkes (Ówen P.), Monday, 10 October 2011

herbie's response is used as the start of this (excellent) Aybee mix for lwe

http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/podcast/lwe-podcast-101-aybee/

post, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/notokay-avatar.png

pplains, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry, meant to post that to the blueface thread.

pplains, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

I don't care if you're black, white, purple, or blue.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

New Black Keys video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a_426RiwST8#!

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 October 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

well, i mean just look at their name

J0rdan S., Friday, 28 October 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

no need to point out alicia's race

J0rdan S., Friday, 28 October 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to go with "not racist" for that one. Do you feel that the man is somehow demeaned by the video?

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

I would dance to that song

dayo, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhkpR1NoEmY

nakhchivan, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to go with "not racist" for that one. Do you feel that the man is somehow demeaned by the video?

― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, October 28, 2011 1:10 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think the Tim&Eric/BlackKeys aesthetic of "tap dance for us, peculiar black man" is p fucking suspect, which is why i ask, "Is this racist?"

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

pretty much everything painted in the Tim & Eric aesthetic is suspect, which is why the stuff that works is so amazing and the stuff that doesn't is so unbearable

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

"tap dance for us, peculiar black man"

there is no tap dancing in that Black Keys video. if anything, the guy is doing the dance that every white guy in 80s teen sex comedies used to do

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

y'know, the "running in place" thing. overbite optional.

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

hey shakey let me introduce you to the concept of figurative speech,

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

is "peculiar" figurative too cuz I don't see anything peculiar about that guy

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

he does appear to be actually black

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

the thing that strikes me is that they've got a video of a black man dancing vaguely like Carlton Banks as a video for a song called "Lonely Boy"; that definitely registers as "sketchy"

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

is whiney racist for finding that black man to be peculiar?

dayo, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link


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