yeah that clips is smoking.i think i pretty much have the same fashion sense as john mcvie.
― tylerw, Thursday, 22 September 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
ha i was thinking of starting a thread "rock stars wearing sweater vests"xp
― bunnistula (buzza), Thursday, 22 September 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWWBt83E61c
― buzza, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 07:52 (twelve years ago) link
Gotta love the Bob Welch years. Mystery to Me and Heroes are Hard to Find are essential.No Buckingham/Nicks FM without the crucial Bob Welch SoCal years.
― rockcrit88, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
This era is not on spotify but Bob Welch's "French Kiss" is and it is hitting the spot this tuesday.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
I wish he was saying "Sentimental Lady, jam a while" though.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
RIP Bob Weston http://www.denverpost.com/entertainment/ci_19688114
― tylerw, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
sad. nice non-fm clip of him here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2bHhlavflo
― buzza, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
did not know that he was kicked out of FM for sleeping with Fleetwood's wife! That band.
― tylerw, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
news report mentioned cirrhosis : ( kind of amazing kirwan is still alive given his mental illness, alcoholism & destitute life post-fleetwood mac.
― buzza, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
Good thing that rule was relaxed somewhat in later years.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
ha, didn't know weston apparently is one of the guitarists in l. buckingham's "trouble" video
― buzza, Saturday, 7 January 2012 09:19 (twelve years ago) link
I definitely would have voted for 'Bare Trees', it's one of my personal favourite Mac LPs.
― Turrican, Saturday, 7 January 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
> Good thing that rule was relaxed somewhat in later years
I was gonna say! Hard to imagine an alternate universe where Rumours (and most everything since) didn't exist.
I too would have voted for Bare Trees
― everything else is secondary (Lee626), Saturday, 7 January 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
'Sunny Side Of Heaven' is simply beautiful, I remember having that on repeat quite a lot when I first heard 'Bare Trees'!
― Turrican, Saturday, 7 January 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
kind of amazing kirwan is still alive given his mental illness, alcoholism & destitute life post-fleetwood mac.
is he? does anyone even know where he is? I thought he vanished.
― akm, Sunday, 8 January 2012 06:50 (twelve years ago) link
this repeats the various stories about his recent whereabouts I see from time to time - some sort of homeless hostel/shelter in London
http://culturecatch.com/music/danny-kirwan-second-chapter
― buzza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 07:20 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jan/08/bob-weston?newsfeed=true
― buzza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMQZnfRcQiE
― buzza, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 07:56 (twelve years ago) link
This era of the Mac is criminally underrated. "Hypnotized" is one of their greatest songs ever, totally beguiling and just shiveringly creepy at the same time. The whole Future Games LP (especially the title track and "Woman of a Thousand Years") straddles a similar line between drifty bliss and impending terror. The horror of the deep woods, etc. I'm totally in love with this stuff right now.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 28 February 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link
hot live clip from 1971. bob welch looks damn young
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhKrA-Z68Cs&feature=related
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Monday, 4 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
nice kiln house era footage herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONRlMK8C6A
― salthigh, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 07:59 (seven years ago) link
cool
― a but (brimstead), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link
Future Games is my favorite LP from this era, but I gotta shout out the gorgeous "Earl Grey" from Kiln House--their best instrumental, apart from "Albatross."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT0vGdetW40
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:30 (seven years ago) link
...and I just now realized they used the American spelling of "gray" in the title. Odd, given that the whole band was British at that point.
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link
i'm finally getting into these! future games is like some weird gentle folk-psych-prog-blues-rock.............masterpiece?
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 March 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link
I love Future Games, but Bare Trees is the pinnacle of this period for me.
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Thursday, 16 March 2017 22:52 (seven years ago) link
Spinning a vinyl Bare Trees I picked up yesterday--kind of amazed how much it reminds me of the Allman Bros. (or at least an idea of the Allmans--harmonized guitars, slide fills for color, rolling rhythms etc.)
― ...some of y'all too woke to function (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 March 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link
Future Games is so freaking great. Woman of a Thousand Years, Future Games, and Sands of Time are just amazing. Need to read the rest of the thread, but consensus up thread seems to be that it is not as good as Bare Trees or MTM, the former I have but the latter I do not.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link
It’s better than both imo
― brimstead, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link
Yeah I agree
― think the toledo mud hens but for twitter (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 03:07 (four years ago) link
I just listened to Bare Trees again and it is so good. Yet, it is a distinct step toward the pop moves of Buckingham/Nicks and away from the weirdo mysteriousness of the early stuff. Still prefer Future Games.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link
Future Games is one of my favorite Mac albums. Woman of a Thousand Years....so great.
― akm, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link
i like the album art of Bare Trees more than the album itself (same with Kiln House).
― akm, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link
re: kiln house
the verses of "jewel eyed judy" are so magical. it's a shame the chorus doesn't really deliver but it's still a great track to slip into a mixtape imo
and then "one together" might be the best thing jeremy spencer ever wrote. that tune gets stuck in my head maybe every other week
lol i love jeremey, look at this guy
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Fleetwood_mac_jeremy_spencer_8.jpg/800px-Fleetwood_mac_jeremy_spencer_8.jpg
― budo jeru, Friday, 10 May 2019 05:46 (four years ago) link
I've come around a lot on Bare Trees since reviving this thread last year. Now I think I like it about equally as well as Future Games, just different. I couldn't remember if people liked Penguin or Mystery to Me the best so I bought a used copy of Penguin that is coming today and it appears I chose the wrong one! Is Penguin bad? I'll tell you in a few hours.
― Fetch the Bolt Thrower (PBKR), Saturday, 2 May 2020 12:45 (three years ago) link
Mystery to Me is much better
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 2 May 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link
I just this week discovered Danny Kirin and decided he’s what I like about that era. On cursory listen Then Play On through Bare Trees.l is where it’s at
― dan selzer, Saturday, 2 May 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link
I like Penguin, I like Heroes Are Hard To Find. “Prove your love” is a lovely mcvie ballad
― brimstead, Saturday, 2 May 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link
Adore "Prove Your Love" and the sunshiney feel-good chorus on Welch's "Silver Heels" on Heroes.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 2 May 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
This era is wildly uneven for me, but outside of "Kiln House" and Kirwan's contributions, I love Christine McVie's songs. You could make a great album compiling just her stuff from these years.
― birdistheword, Monday, 4 May 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
I just got my copy of Penguin and on one play agree that it is several notches below Future Games, Bare Trees, and Mystery to Me. First track and the other McVie songs are relative highlights, but songwriting generally not that distinctive.
― He Ain't Heavy D, He's My Brother (PBKR), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link
RIP Peter Green :(https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53539989#
― Oor Neechy, Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link
Would have to admit he's in the "famous persons you didn't realize were still alive" category for me, but RIP. Funnily enough I was just watching part of this 1997 Rock Family Trees show about Fleetwood Mac last night, highlighting the band having a history of guitar players kinda losing it. I don't know their story all that well and have never been especially warmed to the Green era for some reason.
I mentioned in the reissues thread that an 8CD box comprising the albums from Then Play On through Heroes Are Hard to Find is coming out in September, including a live show from '74. Then there'll be a vinyl set of just '73-74 to complement the one from '69-72 that came out a few years ago.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link
OH MAN, This Clip Of The '75 Band Smoking Two Green Compositions...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZFM9iHJXyg
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link
today seems like as good a day as any to play that keith fullerton whitman albatross blend
https://soundcloud.com/kfw/fleetwood-mac-albatross-blend
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Saturday, 25 July 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link
I just bought some thing of his in Bandcamp where he processed a bunch of songs through resonators it’s some other electronics and Albatross appears there as well.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 25 July 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
xp want to second that Whitman “Albatross” piece is all-time
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 25 July 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link
yeah it is unbelievable
― tylerw, Saturday, 25 July 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link
I love both line-ups (and to a lesser extent the long "transitional" phase in-between), but Peter Green's Mac will always be my favorite. I love virtually everything they did to bits, even the loose jams they did at Chess Studios in Chicago right after New Year's Day in 1969. I just wish there had been more opportunities to see Green and Danny Kirwan play together, they were terrific fronting Fleetwood Mac. Terribly sad that personal struggles prevented any real chance of a strong revival of that line-up.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 25 July 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link
Saw him live with his band of younger musicians in 2010; he was quiet and sat while he played (the second guitarist did most of the vocals and crowd interaction) but when Green kicked off Albatross you could hear a pin drop
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 25 July 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link
that keith fullerton whitman albatross blend
Whoa.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 25 July 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link
oof RIP. Albatross is the greatest rock instrumental of all time
― J. Sam, Sunday, 26 July 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link
“Rumble” certainly right up there, but apples/oranges.
― Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 26 July 2020 03:53 (three years ago) link
I've come around a lot on Bare Trees since reviving this thread last year. Now I think I like it about equally as well as Future Games, just different. I couldn't remember if people liked Penguin or Mystery to Me the best so I bought a used copy of Penguin that is coming today and it appears I chose the wrong one! Is Penguin bad? I'll tell you in a few hours.― Fetch the Bolt Thrower (PBKR), Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:45 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglinkMystery to Me is much better― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:53 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Fetch the Bolt Thrower (PBKR), Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:45 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:53 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink
^^^This!
I just bought a copy of Mystery to Me and it's so good. Worst song is probably the Yardbirds cover, but even that, the jam at the end is pretty sweet. Everything else is B+ to A+ and the sound is very nice. So many details I never noticed the couple times I streamed it.
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Monday, 28 June 2021 23:36 (two years ago) link