Fleetwood Mac between Peter Green and Buckingham/Nicks

I'd never seen that "Lay It All Down" clip either. Welch rockin' the sweater vest!

yeah that clips is smoking.
i think i pretty much have the same fashion sense as john mcvie.

ha i was thinking of starting a thread "rock stars wearing sweater vests"
xp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWWBt83E61c

Gotta love the Bob Welch years. Mystery to Me and Heroes are Hard to Find are essential.
No Buckingham/Nicks FM without the crucial Bob Welch SoCal years.

This era is not on spotify but Bob Welch's "French Kiss" is and it is hitting the spot this tuesday.

I wish he was saying "Sentimental Lady, jam a while" though.

RIP Bob Weston http://www.denverpost.com/entertainment/ci_19688114

sad. nice non-fm clip of him here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2bHhlavflo

did not know that he was kicked out of FM for sleeping with Fleetwood's wife! That band.

news report mentioned cirrhosis : (

kind of amazing kirwan is still alive given his mental illness, alcoholism & destitute life post-fleetwood mac.

did not know that he was kicked out of FM for sleeping with Fleetwood's wife! That band.

Good thing that rule was relaxed somewhat in later years.

ha, didn't know weston apparently is one of the guitarists in l. buckingham's "trouble" video

I definitely would have voted for 'Bare Trees', it's one of my personal favourite Mac LPs.

> Good thing that rule was relaxed somewhat in later years

I was gonna say! Hard to imagine an alternate universe where Rumours (and most everything since) didn't exist.

I too would have voted for Bare Trees

'Sunny Side Of Heaven' is simply beautiful, I remember having that on repeat quite a lot when I first heard 'Bare Trees'!

kind of amazing kirwan is still alive given his mental illness, alcoholism & destitute life post-fleetwood mac.

is he? does anyone even know where he is? I thought he vanished.

this repeats the various stories about his recent whereabouts I see from time to time - some sort of homeless hostel/shelter in London

http://culturecatch.com/music/danny-kirwan-second-chapter

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jan/08/bob-weston?newsfeed=true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMQZnfRcQiE

This era of the Mac is criminally underrated. "Hypnotized" is one of their greatest songs ever, totally beguiling and just shiveringly creepy at the same time. The whole Future Games LP (especially the title track and "Woman of a Thousand Years") straddles a similar line between drifty bliss and impending terror. The horror of the deep woods, etc. I'm totally in love with this stuff right now.

hot live clip from 1971. bob welch looks damn young

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhKrA-Z68Cs&feature=related

nice kiln house era footage here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONRlMK8C6A

cool

Future Games is my favorite LP from this era, but I gotta shout out the gorgeous "Earl Grey" from Kiln House--their best instrumental, apart from "Albatross."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT0vGdetW40

...and I just now realized they used the American spelling of "gray" in the title. Odd, given that the whole band was British at that point.

i'm finally getting into these! future games is like some weird gentle folk-psych-prog-blues-rock.............masterpiece?

I love Future Games, but Bare Trees is the pinnacle of this period for me.

Spinning a vinyl Bare Trees I picked up yesterday--kind of amazed how much it reminds me of the Allman Bros. (or at least an idea of the Allmans--harmonized guitars, slide fills for color, rolling rhythms etc.)

Future Games is so freaking great. Woman of a Thousand Years, Future Games, and Sands of Time are just amazing. Need to read the rest of the thread, but consensus up thread seems to be that it is not as good as Bare Trees or MTM, the former I have but the latter I do not.

It’s better than both imo

Yeah I agree

I just listened to Bare Trees again and it is so good. Yet, it is a distinct step toward the pop moves of Buckingham/Nicks and away from the weirdo mysteriousness of the early stuff. Still prefer Future Games.

Future Games is one of my favorite Mac albums. Woman of a Thousand Years....so great.

i like the album art of Bare Trees more than the album itself (same with Kiln House).

re: kiln house

the verses of "jewel eyed judy" are so magical. it's a shame the chorus doesn't really deliver but it's still a great track to slip into a mixtape imo

and then "one together" might be the best thing jeremy spencer ever wrote. that tune gets stuck in my head maybe every other week

lol i love jeremey, look at this guy

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Fleetwood_mac_jeremy_spencer_8.jpg/800px-Fleetwood_mac_jeremy_spencer_8.jpg

I've come around a lot on Bare Trees since reviving this thread last year. Now I think I like it about equally as well as Future Games, just different. I couldn't remember if people liked Penguin or Mystery to Me the best so I bought a used copy of Penguin that is coming today and it appears I chose the wrong one! Is Penguin bad? I'll tell you in a few hours.

Mystery to Me is much better

I just this week discovered Danny Kirin and decided he’s what I like about that era. On cursory listen Then Play On through Bare Trees.l is where it’s at

I like Penguin, I like Heroes Are Hard To Find. “Prove your love” is a lovely mcvie ballad

Adore "Prove Your Love" and the sunshiney feel-good chorus on Welch's "Silver Heels" on Heroes.

This era is wildly uneven for me, but outside of "Kiln House" and Kirwan's contributions, I love Christine McVie's songs. You could make a great album compiling just her stuff from these years.

I just got my copy of Penguin and on one play agree that it is several notches below Future Games, Bare Trees, and Mystery to Me. First track and the other McVie songs are relative highlights, but songwriting generally not that distinctive.

RIP Peter Green :(
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53539989#

Would have to admit he's in the "famous persons you didn't realize were still alive" category for me, but RIP. Funnily enough I was just watching part of this 1997 Rock Family Trees show about Fleetwood Mac last night, highlighting the band having a history of guitar players kinda losing it. I don't know their story all that well and have never been especially warmed to the Green era for some reason.

I mentioned in the reissues thread that an 8CD box comprising the albums from Then Play On through Heroes Are Hard to Find is coming out in September, including a live show from '74. Then there'll be a vinyl set of just '73-74 to complement the one from '69-72 that came out a few years ago.

OH MAN, This Clip Of The '75 Band Smoking Two Green Compositions...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZFM9iHJXyg

today seems like as good a day as any to play that keith fullerton whitman albatross blend

https://soundcloud.com/kfw/fleetwood-mac-albatross-blend

I just bought some thing of his in Bandcamp where he processed a bunch of songs through resonators it’s some other electronics and Albatross appears there as well.

xp want to second that Whitman “Albatross” piece is all-time

yeah it is unbelievable

I love both line-ups (and to a lesser extent the long "transitional" phase in-between), but Peter Green's Mac will always be my favorite. I love virtually everything they did to bits, even the loose jams they did at Chess Studios in Chicago right after New Year's Day in 1969. I just wish there had been more opportunities to see Green and Danny Kirwan play together, they were terrific fronting Fleetwood Mac. Terribly sad that personal struggles prevented any real chance of a strong revival of that line-up.

Saw him live with his band of younger musicians in 2010; he was quiet and sat while he played (the second guitarist did most of the vocals and crowd interaction) but when Green kicked off Albatross you could hear a pin drop

that keith fullerton whitman albatross blend

Whoa.

oof RIP. Albatross is the greatest rock instrumental of all time

“Rumble” certainly right up there, but apples/oranges.

I've come around a lot on Bare Trees since reviving this thread last year. Now I think I like it about equally as well as Future Games, just different. I couldn't remember if people liked Penguin or Mystery to Me the best so I bought a used copy of Penguin that is coming today and it appears I chose the wrong one! Is Penguin bad? I'll tell you in a few hours.

― Fetch the Bolt Thrower (PBKR), Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:45 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Mystery to Me is much better

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:53 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^
This!

I just bought a copy of Mystery to Me and it's so good. Worst song is probably the Yardbirds cover, but even that, the jam at the end is pretty sweet. Everything else is B+ to A+ and the sound is very nice. So many details I never noticed the couple times I streamed it.