Much thanks. I'm in Scott Miller heaven right now.
― jer.fairall, Thursday, 22 September 2011 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
Many thanks again. These is too sweet!
― Oxy, Thursday, 22 September 2011 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
Uhhh... This is... damn typo!
― Oxy, Thursday, 22 September 2011 04:54 (twelve years ago) link
I've been informed that Scott Miller has died. I don't have other more in depth details at the moment.
― akm, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
I went to the Loud Family website for confirmation and found none, but apparently he or someone else uploaded the Game Theory catalogue to Dropbox just hours ago? That's eerie.
― Modlizki, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think it's public knowledge or news yet.
― akm, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
Holy shit (if true).
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.loudfamily.com/index.html
― akm, Thursday, 18 April 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link
Very, very sad.
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 April 2013 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
Dang, what sad news.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2013 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
Well, I just feel like I've had the wind knocked out of me.
Scott Miller was one of my Gods during my late teens/early 20s. The Loud-fans mailing list was my first online music-related hangout. He was extraordinarily kind to me when I introduced myself to him at a Loud Family show despite my tongue-tied kid-meeting-his-hero incoherence. Hell, my handle here is taken from one of his songs.
If I recall correctly, he had a couple of youngish children. This is sad, shocking news.
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 18 April 2013 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
Incredible. What horrible news.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2013 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
Man, very sad. I still think Lolita Nation deserves way more nods than it gets. It was the Forever Changes of the late '80s. R.I.P.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 April 2013 02:40 (eleven years ago) link
God DAMN it.
In a few minutes I'll re-upload the Lolita Nation and Big Shot Chronicles demos to share. What's the best free/fast service nowadays? Haven't done this in a while.
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Thursday, 18 April 2013 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
Never mind -- I'm putting 'em all on Sendspace. Takes about half an hour to upload 'em all.
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Thursday, 18 April 2013 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
Big Shot Chronicles demos:http://www.sendspace.com/file/7muauw
Lolita Nation demos, part 1:http://www.sendspace.com/file/8a3c5g
Lolita Nation demos, part 2:http://www.sendspace.com/file/bkmlp8
Thank you, Scott. Rest in peace.
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Thursday, 18 April 2013 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks so much for posting those. Lolita Nation was huge for me when I was 15, and I don't think I've listened to it in over 20 years. This'll be a sad revisiting.
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 April 2013 03:25 (eleven years ago) link
You're very welcome. I learned of Game Theory in 1983, shortly before The Big Shot Chronicles IIRC, and was lucky enough to see them a few times and the Loud Family once. Wonderful stuff. My life, especially my 20's, would've been much poorer without them.
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Thursday, 18 April 2013 03:32 (eleven years ago) link
been listening to 'tinker to evers to chance' in tribute all night. "shark pretty" is such a jam. RIP
― Salt Mama Celeste (donna rouge), Thursday, 18 April 2013 03:35 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't learn of Scott til 1997 or so. While it is kind of a shock to learn that that much awesomeness had existed in the world for so long without my knowing about it, the existence of there already being THAT MUCH Scott Miller music for me to delve into more than made up for it.
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 18 April 2013 03:39 (eleven years ago) link
Shit.
Was looking forward to whatever the GT reunion was going to turn out.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 April 2013 04:05 (eleven years ago) link
Didn't know about the reunion until tonight, though I had never really given up on the possibility of new Scott Miller music even post-"retirement" (he had already released one album--What If It Works? (2006), a collaboration with Anton Barbeau--after officially calling it quits in 2000, after all).
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 18 April 2013 04:08 (eleven years ago) link
Very sad news. Met him at an in-store in the late '90s on one of the last LF tours -- a very friendly, humble, approachable guy. _Music: What Happened?_ (detailed above) is a must-read for music hounds; it made me think about and revisit a lot of stuff that had fallen through the cracks.
― Jeff Wright, Thursday, 18 April 2013 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
this is awful news!
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 18 April 2013 04:56 (eleven years ago) link
RIP, Scott. What a shitty week.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 18 April 2013 05:00 (eleven years ago) link
otm^^
I found out about Game Theory and Loud Family mostly from glenn mcdonald's blog, and I emailed him a few times, for both the Ask Scott feature and the Music: What Happened project. Big Shot Chronicles is such a rad album, and Lolita Nation and Plants and Birds and Rocks and Things were v good too. Such a bummer...
thanks Ctrl-Z for the downloads, Scott had such a fascinating approach to music. I am looking forward to listening to them
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 18 April 2013 05:04 (eleven years ago) link
My fave Loud Family song, because I need to hear it right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpXA6Hu6HJw
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 18 April 2013 05:05 (eleven years ago) link
been giving Interbabe Concern a loooooooooooong overdue listen on Spotify. it's. fucking. amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XnP7C44DXA
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 18 April 2013 06:18 (eleven years ago) link
He never ran out when the spirits were lowA nice guy as minor celebrities go
RIP Scott. This is horrible news.
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 18 April 2013 06:45 (eleven years ago) link
I found out about Game Theory and Loud Family mostly from glenn mcdonald's blog
Likewise; one of the first CDs I ordered from the internet was Plants And Birds And Rocks And Things. Always wondered if Scott Miller would have been better served by some sort of Flying Nun-esque profile (always thought him & Bill Direen/Graeme Downes would have gotten along). Rest in peace.
― etc, Thursday, 18 April 2013 08:25 (eleven years ago) link
RIP.underrated genius. i'm a huge fan.
what's the cause of death?
― nostormo, Thursday, 18 April 2013 10:15 (eleven years ago) link
Very sad.
― If you tolerate Bis, then Kenickie will be next (ithappens), Thursday, 18 April 2013 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
"what's the cause of death?"
there was some speculation but if you want to go digging, the cause is stated on the gametheory/loud family group page on fb. I won't repost it here.
― akm, Thursday, 18 April 2013 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
Love this photo from the Lolita Nation sessions: Mitch Easter, Michael Quercio, Scott Miller
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Mitch_michael_scott.jpg
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 April 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
“I’m utterly serious about music. I just respect the buying public’s judgment that it’s not what I should do for a living.”
ouch.
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 13:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
think about this quote a lot
― Spikey, Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
sad news
listening to lolita nation right now, wow what an album!
i had a game theory EP i bought from a dollar bin on vinyl years ago, had this great song "plan five from rigel nine" (i think) but i never dug deep into the band or loud family
wishing now i would have paid more attention.
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
Some of the stuff on Lolita Nation, I dunno how they did it, unless they used samplers. Because the drop-ins on "The Waist And The Knees" would've been insanely time-consuming otherwise.
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
this is sad.
― adam, Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
The site notes it was the new Bowie record that inspired Miller to get back to work. I love the idea of this guy still so engaged with music that a new record could move him to come out of semi-retirement. It's tragic nothing came of the momentum. :(
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:19 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i dunno man good tape slicers can really do a lot on some old records...
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
:(
Would only add that Days for Days is such a wonderful, wonderful album. Seems really under-appreciated.
― john. a resident of chicago., Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
oops i screwed up the song title, this is it. i love this song so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm4jvfwv8uQ
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
There's a light on the nineteenth floor tonightThey don't know there won't even be a fightBut they'll find out I've tired of all the things I'veCalled my ownWhen they go to the final mats aloneDon't even waste the man-hours on usWe are finding no solutionCall all the boys in from the fighting frontsWe have lost the revolutionNone of the soaring flight we dreamedIs any closer to perfectionAnd all I want is one to fold my arms aroundWe are throwing the electionThere's a light on in Joanie's room tonightAnd she won't sleep till summer's going rightShe thought she saw something that would lead her to believeI'm the kind who'll accept the strokes and leaveMake me an offer, I don't waste them nowWe have no more fixed intentionsGive all the faithful long-deserved restsWe've abandoned our dissentionsYou could be one of someone's hundredsWho'll be chosen for affectionAnd all I want is one to fold my arms aroundWe are throwing the electionI've got a feeling it's all riggedI've got a feeling it ended a long time agoNobody tells meI've got a feeling it's over nowI've got a feeling it's over nowI've got a feeling the votes are in and I got noneAnd all I want is one
― If you tolerate Bis, then Kenickie will be next (ithappens), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
anyone have a link to days for days? my copy is in my garage unripped and I can't locate it on spotify or anywhere else for that matter
― akm, Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2013/apr/18/scott-miller-game-theory-loud-family-dies
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
major bummer. lolita nation is all i own but it's a HUGE record in every sense (songwriting/performance/production). the only good that can come out of this is that the shitbird who has been holding game theory's catalog hostage for 25 years will see the error of his ways and allow them to come out for the financial sake of scott's family.
― moe handy, Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
man something has been pinging with me the whole time i've been listening to Lolita Nation and it finally hit me....man I bet those New Pornographers dudes were huge fans of this, something about how they structure melodies is really the same
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
This is really sad. I, too, only know Lolita Nation, but I love it to bits. Big loss.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
That Guardian piece is sharp, and some of the comments equally so -- Mitch Easter and Phil McMullen among others have posted.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwXHSo7qAg8
― polyphonic, Thursday, 18 April 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link