Sasha on Shadow, Diplo, Eminem & Minstrelsy

I was happier that he was repping for Ludacris, really.

which argument candicissima? if your talking abt what i sd, i meant specific to the dipset pro and con, altho i dont think i made that clear, still im sure theres some great shit abt rap and drugs, which is why i ws trying to be so hesitant

how abt on crack is good?

That means no Clipse for you, of course.

x-post: nevermind! some people find complexity.

Anthony is wrong today. But right about that being a totally ILM thing to say.

re: the clipse, you may not be convinced by their complexity, but for me the clipse have a lot more (rather non-specific) stories to tell about crack than dipset do, and they dont wear it as a badge, they engage with it.

i ws reading colette today and she had this funny phrase, civilized immorality

The Clipse use crack as means to an end, it is a tool that they use to investigate, i donno, themselves, human nature, blah blah blah. You may not agree with their conclusions (if they ever draw any) but the way they both *use* crack in rap is different.

Vahid - just because you're not convinced by the Clipse's approach does not mean that its the *same* approach we're critiquing dipset for.

You told me to put the pipe down in my comments box the other day.

Indeed. But I wasn't saying it to be funny (and didn't necessarily mean crack). I mean, you said R. Kelly was a better performer or whatever than Teddy Pendergrass. You obviously were indulging in some wrong kind of narcotics.

I think crack is disassociated from its actual social connotations because its such a pop culture cliche.

And if that doesn't speak to privilege, than I don't know what does. I'm from East New York. Crack is not a joke nor a cliche to me.

The Clipse use crack as means to an end, it is a tool that they use to investigate, i donno, themselves, human nature, blah blah blah. You may not agree with their conclusions (if they ever draw any) but the way they both *use* crack in rap is different.

And that's OTM. I'm Not You is a fucking brutal ass song, but amusing since they are those rappers now that they were slagging off.

also i totally agree w/ the "rap bloggers making tasteless and dumb crack jokes" = fools.

And the hustler imagery is a powerful one. Not a day passes that I don't feel slightly envious of someone else getting paid to basically bullshit while I'm supposedly better off by being "respectable." The minstrel is a hustler, the occupier of the overlapping space that others can not for various reasons and making you buy the idea that they've got it made. I think of Eminem as a minstel. Diplo is just a carpetbagger.

That reminds me of this asshole that almost made me break out of my mask and beat his ass. I said where i was from and his response was "oh cool! I've got a connection to that neighborhood! I used to drive with my brother from Jersey to buy drugs there!" Good for him!

yeah, like those dipset-pushing fuckers at turntablelab.com!! sweater late, wrong size, screwed on shipping charges, no tracking number ... (i mean this in all seriousness!)

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yeah as in "crack : dipset :: tshirts/mixtapes : my website". obv it's a stupid formulation on the part of the listener.

it seems to me there are a million and one things to blame for the proliferation of crack - though haven't crack use / sales / arrests been on the downswing for a long time now? - before the dipset and their fan base.

though if you were to say it was encouraging an unfortunate mentality, i'd agree.