I always knew David Brooks was an asshole ....

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Pareene:

Brooks goes on to write that Obama is "sounding like the Al Gore for president campaign, but without the earth tones" and that his Monday address was "the kind of speech that sounded better when Ted Kennedy was delivering it."

This suggests that Obama is now embracing the ideologically polarizing rhetoric of losing national candidates -- which is very deceptive. He conveniently doesn't note that Obama is also sounding like ... candidate Obama, who (as Brooks' colleague John Harwood explained on Monday) addressed the issue of income inequality head-on while running for president. That the highest-earning 20 percent of Americans had seen their share of pretax income balloon by more than 50 percent between 1979 and 2007, Harwood wrote, "drove (Obama's) campaign platform on taxes and still drives his policy in the White House."

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

not pareene, the other dude

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Mr. Que, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

parnee by steve kornacki, available at finer blogs everywhere

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_charitable_countries

The world's most charitable countries, for the purposes of this page, give the most money to help the needy of their societies and others through public (government) donations . . . the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development also lists countries by the amount of money they give as a percentage of their gross national income. The list includes international giving through official channels that qualify as Official Development Assistance, and national charitable giving. This list is as follows:

1. Sweden – 1.12%
2. Norway – 1.06%
3. Luxembourg – 1.04%
4. Pakistan – 1.00%
5. Denmark – 0.88%
6. Netherlands – 0.82%
7. Belgium – 0.55%
8. Finland – 0.54%
9. Ireland – 0.54%
10. United Kingdom – 0.52%
11. France- 0.47%
12. Spain – 0.46%
13. Switzerland – 0.45%
14. Germany – 0.35%
15. Canada – 0.30%
16. Austria – 0.30%
17. Australia – 0.29%
18. New Zealand – 0.28%
19. Portugal – 0.23%
20. United States – 0.21%
21. Greece – 0.19%
22. Japan – 0.18%
23. Italy – 0.16%
24. South Korea – 0.10%

Fuck David Brooks.

Woolen Scjarfs (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ScFv6.jpg

wont you give to help fuck david brooks today

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Nothing makes David Brooks angrier than attacks on the top 1%. He wants you to believe that the mushy-headed DLC-like proposal by Matt Miller for a centrist 3rd party(that offers a bunch of conservative ideas and a few moderate Liberal ones) is better than OWS

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/11/opinion/the-milquetoast-radicals.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha212

Don’t be fooled by the clichés of protest movements past. The most radical people today are the ones that look the most boring. It’s not about declaring war on some nefarious elite. It’s about changing behavior from top to bottom. Let’s occupy ourselves.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

A group that divides the world between the pure 99 percent and the evil 1 percent will have nothing to say about education reform, Medicare reform, tax reform, wage stagnation or polarization.

UH

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

Notice the revolting way in which he drops a smear and moves on:

Take the Occupy Wall Street movement. This uprising was sparked by the magazine Adbusters, previously best known for the 2004 essay, “Why Won’t Anyone Say They Are Jewish?” — an investigative report that identified some of the most influential Jews in America and their nefarious grip on policy.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link

Both of those quotes make little sense. Plus he says:

The policy proposals that have been floating around the Occupy Wall Street movement — a financial transfer tax, forgiveness for student loans — are marginal.

But he strongly endorses Miller's call to "raise capital requirements for banks"

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

"Let’s occupy ourselves" <--- stirring

mark s, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

lol

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

"The most radical people today are the ones that look the most boring."

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/09/16/opinion/Brooks_New/Brooks_New-articleInline.jpg

Disraeli Geirs (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

tbf, Adbusters did publish a pretty anti-semitic article from the EIC of the magazine and then defended it the next issue. i don't know what that has to do with OWS except to try and delegitimize it, but I think being wary of Adbuster activity is appropriate reaction

Mordy, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

adbusters and david brooks deserve each other

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

Krugman -

I read David Brooks citing the Tax Foundation this morning, and I thought he must have misread them. They couldn’t possibly have compared one year’s take from higher taxes on the rich with the total stock of debt, could they? They can’t possibly be that stupid, or think that their readers are that stupid, can they?

Yes they did. They actually find that their version of the “Buffett rule” would collect $120 billion a year, which is a seriously significant sum. But they try to make it look small by comparing one year’s revenue with the total debt outstanding.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

lol what dicks

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

david brooks can you speak at my teach in why because you look boring

Disraeli Geirs (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Foreign tourists are coming up to me on the streets and asking, “David, you have so many different kinds of inequality in your country. How can I tell which are socially acceptable and which are not?”

This is an excellent question. I will provide you with a guide to the American inequality map to help you avoid embarrassment.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 November 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

he's got the Nordlinger-esque faux-naif bit down pat.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 November 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

Because we were all waiting for David Brooks to weigh in on Paterno

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/opinion/brooks-lets-all-feel-superior.html?src=recg

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 03:34 (twelve years ago) link

We live in a society oriented around our inner wonderfulness.

a sentence like this could only have been written by someone who thinks of himself as utterly not wonderful inside.

which would be uncharacteristically perceptive of him.

j., Wednesday, 16 November 2011 06:06 (twelve years ago) link

guys why did i just start arguing on facebook with somebody who endorsed this column? why?

horseshoe, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 06:06 (twelve years ago) link

back away slowly

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 06:20 (twelve years ago) link

haha this column is such a mess

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

Over the course of history — during the Holocaust, the Rwandan genocide or the street beatings that happen in American neighborhoods — the same pattern has emerged. Many people do not intervene. Very often they see but they don’t see.

lol none of these things are at all like what happened

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

Even in cases where people consciously register some offense, they still often don’t intervene. In research done at Penn State and published in 1999, students were asked if they would make a stink if someone made a sexist remark in their presence. Half said yes. When researchers arranged for that to happen, only 16 percent protested.

In another experiment at a different school, 68 percent of students insisted they would refuse to answer if they were asked offensive questions during a job interview. But none actually objected when asked questions like, “Do you think it is appropriate for women to wear bras to work?”

because when someone makes a sexist comment a child gets raped

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

i wouldve stopped genocides and hypothetical generic events that threaten my own physical well being but i didnt want to harsh the good vibes

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

The Kitty Genovese case from the ’60s is mostly apocryphal, but hundreds of other cases are not.

there is a famously untrue story, dont u feel guilty now

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

In centuries past, people built moral systems that acknowledged this weakness. These systems emphasized our sinfulness. They reminded people of the evil within themselves. Life was seen as an inner struggle against the selfish forces inside. These vocabularies made people aware of how their weaknesses manifested themselves and how to exercise discipline over them. These systems gave people categories with which to process savagery and scripts to follow when they confronted it. They helped people make moral judgments and hold people responsible amidst our frailties.

a time when nothing bad ever happened surely, like... THE HOLOCAUST

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

That was the proper question after Abu Ghraib, Madoff, the Wall Street follies and a thousand other scandals. But it’s a question this society has a hard time asking because the most seductive evasion is the one that leads us to deny the underside of our own nature.

dood all these things were allowed to happen because people in power had a vested interest in having them happen, not because some guy thought he was wonderful

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

These systems emphasized our sinfulness. They reminded people of the evil within themselves. Life was seen as an inner struggle against the selfish forces inside.

yeah this was really awesome everyone felt frightened guilty and miserable all the time! if only we could bring that back!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

His analogies don't clarify the context, and while a few of the examples he mentions are true, they don't justify his larger point. Maybe he should go back to his defense of protecting the 1 %, and justifying entitlement cuts. Oy.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

but people brimming terrified self loathing never do anything bad!

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

guys why did i just start arguing on facebook with somebody who endorsed this column? why?

― horseshoe, Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:06 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

naw i fully support calling people on such obvs bullshit, otherwise youre as bad as hitler

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

You're endorsing your inner wonderfulness.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

he has a point though. if i saw david brooks being beaten on a street in an american neighborhood i would do nothing to intervene.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

tbf that is something that happens nearly every day in our post moral society

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

if he was being genocided i would try to talk them down to a street beating.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

lol berto

max, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

my facebook argument turned out to be quite civil, but i don't understand conservatives, basically.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

Oh hs I nearly bopped a couple of people yesterday, and it wasn't even about David Brooks. I just don't understand how people can be the way they are at all.

It means why you gotta be a montague? (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

i guess i don't even understand why she's still a conservative. she's a smart woman! she does have this very individual-oriented understanding of everything, though. her response to the Penn State scandal is despair at everyone's moral turpitude, basically. it just seems like a weird and off-base reaction to me.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

conservatives! weirdos!

horseshoe, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

not believing theres such thing as society!

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

this just in: DAVID BROOKS IS STILL AN ASSHOLE.

scott seward, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

right? or power? i suspect she also really liked brooks's ows parody whatever the shit that was but i don't even want to get into that with her.

xp scott otm fuck that dude

horseshoe, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

Foreign tourists are coming up to me on the streets and asking, “David, you have so many different kinds of inequality in your country. How can I tell which are socially acceptable and which are not?”

if foreign tourists are seeking out david brooks for social guidance, our country is in worse condition that i could have ever feared

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

but really i am just laughing at how bad and unwieldy and ridiculous the set-up is

this guy is supposed to be a writer

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

i say this every time david brooks comes up but the amazing thing about him imo is that he is clearly not very bright! and not just in a "i never agree with this guy" way--he is a shallow and lousy critical thinker!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link


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