Mac OS X Lion 10.7

hey look over there

*throws smoke bomb*

has apple said anything about that upcoming new program where they replace my girlfriend's macbook after i throw it out the gd window for scrolling weird?

okay sorry for the previous brainfart. is there a way to make the dock come up in full screen mode if you have it set to hide?

mine comes up when i jam the mouse to its area.

oh okay. I ran out of room to jam on the trackpad

dayo, they have classes on how to use a computer at the Apple store, I hear they're free! :)

I used to know what I was doing but then they changed everything

refusing to upgrade the mbp because I should have gotten a lion install disc with my air, fuck you apple

:-(

You know you can make one, right?

yeah but only as a fresh install right? can't make a upgrade versh afaik

Yeah you can! It's the same damn thing.

could you point me to somewhere that says you can?

Uh, the fact that the disc you make is just an image of the installer, which when launched from inside OS X is an upgrader?

In fact, you could just stick the upgrader on a drive and then run it from the other computer!

I dunno man

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4848

Notes

If the computer shipped with Lion, the external recovery drive can only be used with the system that created it.

If the system was upgraded from Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard to Lion, the external recovery drive can be used with other systems that were upgraded from Snow Leopard to Lion.

tbc my air shipped with lion - has never seen snow leopard. so this would mean any disk I make with it could only be used with it or w/ a blank HD, yeah?

External. recovery. drive.

Can you download via the app store?

To clarify since I was kind of harsh:

I was *not* referring to the external recovery drive stuff. I was talking about the installer/upgrader that you can make a disk image of that is what you get from the App Store. I thought that you either are entitled to a copy of that as a new hardware purchaser, or that it was somehow available, but it looks like you can only get that if you purchase (or otherwise somehow download) it by itself.

Sorry for the confusion! It sounds like you're stuck paying $30 or getting the image through other means if you just want an upgrade.

haha understood, and yeah I probably have done a bit more research on this than necessary. but as a new hardware purchaser I'm not entitled to download it from the app store @ all, only to do web recovery or make my own usb/external recovery drive.

my only hope is that I'm pretty sure that when I log onto the App Store from my parents refurbished iMac I do see some kind of... Lion Upgrade thingy that I can assign to my account. if it turns out that my parents iMac was upgraded from snow leopard at the factory, then I could probably make a boot image from that.

and yeah, wtf @ apple for not giving me a free download via the App Store, which is why I said fuck you apple in the first place!

It's only $30 though. Or um, you could download it elsewhere from less authentic sources.

it's the principle of the matter. I could buy a lot of beer or a fifth for $30!

and I already gave them two huge lumps of cash in the past summer

I'll email you the installer and a fifth

am confused dayo: what would you want to download? You can make an external image already, so what do you want to download?

He can make a recovery image, which he believes (and I'm starting to believe) is only good for a fresh install. He wants to upgrade.

But to upgrade you'd have to be running 10.6, and isn't the point that this mac came w/10.7?

refusing to upgrade the mbp because I should have gotten a lion install disc with my air, fuck you apple

― Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Sunday, September 18, 2011 8:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I'm just pissed that apple has finally started regulating its licenses

or maybe because apple is being inconsistent? like in the past, you could buy a single user license and a family user pack with like 5 licenses. they were both the exact same thing, you could install it on as many different macs as you'd like, but technically you'd only have bought one or five licenses.

now with lion, assuming you are upgrading from snow leopard, you just buy it once and you can install it on all your macs, yeah, without having to buy separate licenses for each of your macs? but if you buy a brand new mac, you can't use that mac's copy of lion to upgrade your snow leopard macs. doesn't make sense.

What are you talking about? They're still exactly the same thing, except with new macs you get a one-off. In the past, if you bought a new mac with, say 10.6, the disc it came with would be machine-specific and wouldn't necessarily work as a way to upgrade a 10.5 machine.

In other words, this is *exactly* how it was.

lol you're right

fuck you, apple

dude stfu stop complaining download this http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6553429

I am very offended by your insinuation, mr. ice cr?m

haha icey just got real

http://i.imgur.com/J31Nt.gif

I made the executive decision (just now) in the shower that I will buy Lion this week

but that new finder sidebar is still ugly as shit

Finder is an abortion full stop, the sidebar is just an additional nuisance

<3 finder

You better, they will never fix it. They want Finder to wither away.

i'm not trolling, i genuinely like it -- what do y'all dislike about it?

You know, it's so long since I used the Finder for anything serious that I'm having trouble remembering all the things I hate about it. I do all my file operations through Nautilus on an Ubuntu box.

markers, read the siracusa reviews

actually he wrote an article just about it

http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2003/04/finder.ars

(it's gotten worse since then)

Here's a few off the top of my head:

- nowhere near enough in the way of hotkeys
- new finder windows default to the "all my files" thing
- display options are (a) an outline list (b) that horrible grid thing (c) big icons
- dragging a file intermittently selects a list of files instead
- ejecting a USB drive closes the finder window without asking
- basically it's made for people who don't use computers

- display options are (a) an outline list (b) that horrible grid thing (c) big icons

(d) cover flow, which makes nought sense in a file system most of the time