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Stormy Davis, Friday, 16 September 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

answer is Tom Araya, obv. Somebody upthread called Slayer "humorless" ? Araya is funny as fuck

Stormy Davis, Friday, 16 September 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

my wife's into metal but I don't think even she knows who Frank Bello is... (I've passed this question on to her btw)

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

I chose Metallica without even thinking about it yesterday, but reading this thread just now and seeing crap like "Slayer is a band to admire not love" and especially "people enjoy saying how much they love slayer more than they actually love slayer" -- which is just total bullshit -- I kinda wish I could go back and vote Slayer. Nobody fucking "pretended" to love Slayer, they were on a whole nother plane during 'Reign' -> 'Seasons'. 'South of Heaven' and 'Seasons of the Abyss' were total OMG can't wait go to the mall and buy it on the first day records. HUGE anticipation

Stormy Davis, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

you know there are a lot bands with male members where i can admit there's some ws material in there but this crew is one heap of hair and pale and oof.

that said, they all clean up much nicer now than in the heyday.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

Ha, that was me that called them humorless. They're all pretty funny outside the context of the music. I just meant that Slayer's music is humorless.

I interviewed Jeff from Slayer (I think?) not long after 9/11, about how so-called extreme metal bands were reacting to it, whether they were toning anything down, etc. This is when someone called on Anthrax to change their name and Scott Ian made news, briefly, by claiming Anthrax was changing its name to Basketful of Puppies. Anyway, I asked if the band felt weird with Slayer posters all over NYC that said "God Hates Us All," dripping in blood - the album came out on 9/11 - and he was all, "no, because god does hate us all." I thought that was funny.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

it's funny cuz its true

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

that said, they all clean up much nicer now than in the heyday.

yeah, back in the day they would have been all b.o. and stds. a little male pattern baldness is preferable.

debenture banhart (get bent), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

I guess my answer would be Dave Mustaine.

http://blogs.cocoondev.org/michaelm/archives/images/Tori%20Amos.jpg

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

Meanwhile:

http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2009/11/anvil-snubbed.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

"We coulda been contenders, eh."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

actually, for the metalhead dudes I hung out it with in the late 80s, it was really more like the "Big 2" --> Metallica and Anthrax. Anthrax were just huge around 'Among the Living', we probably listened to that album as much as any Metallica album.

Megadeth never really even entered the discussion. They almost seemed like a novelty band, *especially* after that total garbage Sex Pistols cover. That was so laughable, I totally could not take them seriously, stopped listening to them altogether. So I missed albums like 'Rust in Peace', my loss I guess. I went to that Heaven and Hell tour too, and I didn't even bother showing up for the Megadeth set. It also hurt that they always were less a "band" and more Dave Mustaine + whoever could stand to be around him for a few months.

Stormy Davis, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

I am voting for Metallica because I am more "hard rock" than "metal"

da croupier, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

I'm off to find the hero of the dayyyy

da croupier, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

but I have to say I did go see Megadeth perform all of 'Rust in Peace' on that tour with Slayer and Testament last year, and they were pretty rad

Stormy Davis, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

my answer's the same as da croupier, pretty much

some dude, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

if someone doesn't like it, well dub me unforgiven

da croupier, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

sadly I don't think I have a copy of the article I wrote for the teen page of my local newspaper in advance of a load show where I reviewed their through-load ouvre. Pretty sure I gave Justice a 9/10! It must have sounded the realest.

da croupier, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

what was the gender makeup like at the show? and were most of the women there like wives/girlfriends who didn't seem that into it?

― some dude, Friday, September 16, 2011 5:53 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Metal's not really a zit-popping 12-sided dice boys club like it was in the 80s dogg

James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

I mean there wasn't as many women as like an AC Newman show, but more than Hair Police or whatev

James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

The metalheads I hung with in high school were really into Megadeth and Anthrax above all else. The latter I think appealed for its mix of thrash and good ol' fashioned stoopid. Don't remember much Slayer love, though iirc everyone liked at least a little Metallica, certainly after "Master" and definitely by "One."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

Metal's not really a zit-popping 12-sided dice boys club like it was in the 80s dogg

― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, September 16, 2011 6:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i wasn't implying it was! that was why i asked the guy who was there, i was genuinely curious about the answer and not what great sarcastic zing you could come back with

some dude, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

xp Metal is still a boys club, man. An Ozzfest a few years ago was the only time in my life I've ever seen a dude wind up and hit a woman in the face. The women are there, but the dudes run the show. Which is why I give tons of credit to AC/DC a few years back. They were panning through the crowd with a camera, finding women willing to flash the camera. But then they started alternating it with dudes flashing their boobs, too. It was really kind of funny. A good communical time was had by all.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

Communal, gah.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

I think my new computer has a built in autocorrect I want to deactivate.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

since i was listening to this stuff in the '90s, the cafeteria argument was more like metallica vs megadeth vs slayer vs pantera vs sepultura.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

I still have a Metallica sampler mixtape made by the friend who later lent me all his Metallica tapes for that article:

Side A
Dyers Eve
Helpless
The Unforgiven
One
The Outlaw Torn
The God That Failed
My Friend Of Misery

Side B
Harvester Of Sorrow
Frayed Ends Of Sanity
Phantom Lord
Anesthesia - Pulling Teeth
Whiplash
Creeping Death (Live)
Bleeding Me
Call Of Ktulu

Liner notes: "Anesthesia is Cliff's most famous solo. It starts with just him then Lars comes in with drums and then Whiplash begins. Check out the solo on The Unforgiven. Awesome."

da croupier, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, totes, Sepultura and Pantera were in the mix, too.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, metal is still a boys club, but I'm saying I think it's more inclusive than it was 20 years ago

James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9BzLsrchO0&feature=related

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

the "Unforgiven" solo is pretty boss imo

some dude, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

that is a weird metallica mix

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

Pantera's not even a thrash metal band, ffs. Get that shit out of here.

James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, totes, they were just metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7468VDIMURE&feature=related

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzazqLpD29w

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

that is a weird metallica mix

^^^^

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFXecyx-Qmk

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

Pantera's not even a thrash metal band, ffs. Get that shit out of here.

hey, don't shoot the messenger, i'm just reporting from a midwestern high school cafeteria.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

2002 - feature on marrying Diana Krall
2004 - review: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20145535,00.html
2006 - feature on having twins

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

lol WRONG THREAD

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

okay lol

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

no this is definitely the right thread

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

Big 4: Elvis Costello, Graham Parker, Joe Jackson, um, Nick Lowe?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

oh man haven't listened to 'battery' in at least 15 years, what a juggernaut

partistan (dayo), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

ok more like 10 years but still

partistan (dayo), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

it blew my mind when I found out master of puppets was about... drugs!

partistan (dayo), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

CHOP YOUR BREAKFAST ON A MIRRRUH

partistan (dayo), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

anyway I voted for testament

partistan (dayo), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

In this poll its all about Slayer and Megadeth. The other two don't even register, especially Anthrax.

Also, the discussion above about slayer being more admirable than loved is horsehit.I could listen to slayer 24/7, there's new shit I pick up in their music every time I listen to it, and I'm a guy who loved them pre-RIB (I'm 41)

That said, Rust In Peace is the best thing any of these 4 ever put out. Second is South of Heaven.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Saturday, 17 September 2011 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

I gotta hear the hanneman demos mentioned up top.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Saturday, 17 September 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link


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