I wouldn't go that far if we're talking about their commercial peak. which is littered with hookless crap.
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
Will you step back from your computer for a second and ask yourself "is that what Jordan was really talking about?"
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
haha rustic killin it
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
http://sustenance-studio.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a56dddbf970b012875ba1161970c-300wi
― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
so one of the reasons metallica is so big is that prior to actually being so big they wrote a lot of decent material. huh.
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
would've thought the popularity of the black album had more to do with people actually liking the black album and the music on it, rather than the music on Master of Puppets. call me crazy.
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
uh pretty sure that's what OTHER people were saying that you seemed to be disagreeing with. unless you're working on some kind of level of sarcasm i can't even identify.
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
like which of the 5 huge singles from the black album could possibly be described as "hookless"
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
MetallicaFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFor other uses, see Metallica (disambiguation).
Not to be confused with Matelica.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, when you said "commercial peak" the first time, I figured you were talking about the ninja star years.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
...and that Jordan had been talking about say Ride through the Black album.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
btw, don't forget to check out my Metallica tribute band, Ride Through The Black.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
all the ones I can't remember (which is all of them except for Enter Sandman)
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
Metallica is the only one of the 4 I've ever owned an album by (Master of Puppets) - but I don't really know the other three well enough to vote.
― o. nate, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Ride The Lightening took 3 years to go gold whereas the black album was multi-platinum within months, so that's a really uselessly vague definition of "commercial peak"
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
"Unforgiven," "Sad But True," "Nothing Else Matters," and "Wherever I May Roam" are not hookless just because you can't remember them fyi
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
hooks by definition are memorable! all I remember about those songs are that I thought they were awful when I heard them.
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
I don't remember any of those songs but that's because I didn't particularly want to listen to Metallica and actively avoided them
― sick yr finger up his butt (DJP), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
let's say '84 - '88 + maybe half the black album
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
(xp) If any of them have a motif even vaguely in the league of the guitar riff of "Enter Sandman", calling them "hookless" is really, really silly
Ride The Lightening
milan kundera/metallica mashup
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, September 16, 2011 2:30 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark
let's say "creative peak" because you obviously don't know what "commercial peak" means
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
i guess shakey was the one that said commercial peak but assuming that's still what we're talking about
If you look at commercial peak through past performance though, which would be better to judge popularity over time, you have 3x, 5x, 6x, 8x, 15x platinum for Kill 'em All through the black album. But I'll bet that a lot of those purchases were made after the black album came out.
Then you have 5x, 3x, 2x, 2x platinum for Load through Death Magnetic. I think a factor in Load's performance here had a lot to do with it's riding on the coattails of the black album. Plus ninja stars and hockey jerseys.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
when i said "peak" i was thinking "peak of their talents", not sales
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
ok
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
Plus ninja stars and hockey jerseys.
load was metallica's teenage mutant ninja turtles 3
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
Is everybody cool now on what Jordan and Shakey were talking about, because we can probably spin this simple misunderstanding out into 200 posts by close-of-business if there's any doubt.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
by far the majority of those sales are post-Black Album -- before '91 And Justice was double platinum and most of the other albums were one time platinum. probably 95% of the units they've shifted have been since then.
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
Gotta take the boring position of voting Metallica. For my buying dollar, none of the other bands wrote anything as exciting as Whiplash or Battery.
― Darin, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
The numbers are weird because I would assume based on radio-play and just what people say, that Master of Puppets is more popular than Justice.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
probably true in the long run but "One" being their MTV breakthrough at the time probably trumped overall fan feeling or retrospective critical rankings
― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
Was One that big of a breakthrough though?
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
...yes?
― sick yr finger up his butt (DJP), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
I remember seeing it once, and then I later had to go buy the 2 of One videotape to see it again.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't even have cable at the time when that came out and I almost literally could not visit a friend who did, turn on MTV and not see that video within 15 minutes.
― sick yr finger up his butt (DJP), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
seems sad to me that of the 15 million who bought the black album approx 10 million of them dont have the far superior ride the lightning
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
OK, fair enough. I was mostly outside riding bikes at the time.
― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUraxKNxCm4&feature=related
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― markers, Friday, 16 September 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
I think the fact that Slayer is the only band in the Big 4 listed in the Spin Alternative Record Guide says a little something about their appeal on ILX.
any metal community would vote slayer, megadeth, metallica, anthrax in that order & would then spend most of the thread arguing about whether there ought to be a fifth option for metallica with cliff, and then side-track into how Testament really ought to be here instead of Anthrax
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
lol aero much love
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
I will put on an Anthrax album before Metallica and Megadeth any day of the week.
― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
which one
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
well, then you're kind of silly imo, because Anthrax doesn't have any albums as good as Metallica's & Megadeth's best albums. they're a great band. but you're kinda repping for EPMD over PE here. fuck anybody who isn't down with EPMD but over PE? come on now.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
By the way, the t-shirts at the big four were all ugly as fuck.
Someone should have really commissioned one of those faux-experimental jetset
METALLICA&SLAYER&MEGADETH&ANTHRAX.
all helevitica shirts because some of us aren't 15 anymore.
― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
aero, i'm just saying that's personal preference man. i'm sure some people like EPMD over PE
― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
Does Pushead still roam the earth?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
actually I would challop EPMD over PE all day for lols and would argue in earnest that if you want chill grooves PE never found any as deep as EPMD's
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link