fall fashion 2011

is there any way to get that ervell shirt for < the current retail? are there deals to be had? : (

i got mine at an opening ceremony sample sale

so...... move to new york!

oy!

I ordered that Weekend by Max Mara (secondary line, still $$$ but not ridiculous for something I will wear every day, every winter, for at least a decade)! It is shipping from the UK from a place called matches that looks like my kinda store. Crossing my fingers that the UK 12 was a good call. Anyhow, thanking u ilx for recommending max mara and thus drastically streamlining my search for a camel coat.

(Note: the coat is 49% wool, 33% alpaca, 12% nylon, 6% angora. Should be very warm with the alpaca in there!)

how much was shipping?

forty five US bucks!

coats man. heavy shit.

yay q! hope it works out! i bet the UK 12 is right? i would have the same issue with uk size (10 or 12) and i usually err on the side of sizing up because if the shoulders don't fit, it's no good

also can i just make a comment: people are crazy. missoni for target? i know some of the crazy is just hype and marketing strategery but people! the stuff is still target quality and imo hideous! if you are going to troll ebay to buy missoni at a couple hundred a pop, dang, buy the real thing

japanese teenagers gotta do SOMETHING to bide the time

the missoni thing is kinda funny, i had a friend who rapturously facebooked about the missoni lounge pants she scored. i mean. missoni lounge pants. c'mon.

http://www.norseprojects.com/client/norse/dynamic/images/414_7f6fbca77a-big.jpg

sorry vah1d

I kind of hate Missoni to begin with so I haven't understood this mania at all.

that sweater! dig the raglan sleeve

xpost yeah i hate it too - the prints, the colors, everything. completely not my style.

that sweater is great

norse projects has some great sweaters

i like this guy too

http://www.norseprojects.com/client/norse/dynamic/images/419_ad934f5e31-big.jpg

http://www.norseprojects.com/client/norse/dynamic/images/398_8c737911c5-big.jpg

*sighs deeply*

Quincie: UK sizes are US+4 so US 6 = UK 10; US 8 = UK 12, etc
But my feeling is the actual fit depends on the store and usually on their range of sizes (so if the smallest they have is a size 2, that's likely to be similar to a size 4 in another shop where that's the smallest they run to).

With coats it's really hard anyway because I find sizing is often all over the place and depends on how thick it is, the cut, etc. 12 is probably fine!

UK sizes are US+4 so US 6 = UK 10; US 8 = UK 12

It's so weird because some websites state what you said and others say it's +2 which is what I said yesterday. So inconsistent. US 6 = 8, US 8 = 10 and so on. I've definitely found that +2 to be closer most often. Nearly everything would be way too big if I went by the +4 thing.

For instance these two both do the +2

http://www.onlineconversion.com/clothing_womens.htm

http://www.asknumbers.com/ClothingWomensConversion.aspx

Whereas this one does the +4

http://www.fashion-411.com/Size_Conversions.htm

I guess though is we can't have standardized sizing across the industry within the country it would be ridic to expect international conversions to be consistent.

Yeah I checked here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clothing_size#Women
and 'dresses and suits' and 'women's clothes' are different! It's so dumb. Same as Quincie, I have managed to narrow my 'size' down to about 3 :-)

Hm, maybe that is why I've been finding clothes here generally too big, although I usually just look for the smallest size and that's often too big (and I'm not exactly a skinny waif) - I guess a lot of stuff is designed to be drapy or loose right now.

Thinking about it I probably learned the +4 thing solely from H&M labels...

how convenient that so many clothes are drapy and loose -- this means they don't have to actually "fit" and more people will buy them.
dislike.

Hm, maybe that is why I've been finding clothes here generally too big

isn't this, like, one of the perks of dating same sex? sharing clothes?

yeah, sure, its more as elmo sd theres a weird territory btw 'want to smash' and 'want to dress/look like' thats sorta a queasy masturbatory thing going on a bit idk sorta outside the purview of this thread

ya, i get that. i always think it's weird when you see twinsies walking down the street

Can't find that white norse projects sweater in medium :(

max there are a lot of varsity-styled jackets this season, it's def a thing now, i'm sure you could find one at a good price!
― elmo argonaut, Friday, September 16, 2011 2:15 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this has been a thing for a while, hasn't it? or was it more in the hip hop scene and moving it's way into the normal style scene? i got this one back in 08

i <3 norse projects. i wanted a jacket for a while, but never found it in my size. there's one really small store in sf that sells it, but they're so tiny that they only carry a few pieces from each brand. http://www.maasandstacks.com

i've been seeing them for at least a year, idk about the hiphop influence tbh but i kinda see them coming out of the ivy / prep trend of the past few years

i bought a vintage varsity jacket in 09 when it was a big runway trend iirc

max is this the sort of sweater you were talking about?

http://www.ralphlauren.com/graphics/product_images/pPOLO2-10666036_lifestyle_v360x480.jpg

i want this jcrew wool cpo jacket. more like a shacket, but i'm always hot, so don't need anything thick

http://assets.svpply.com.s3.amazonaws.com/large/741077.jpg
http://www.jcrew.com/AST/Navigation/Sale/AllProducts/PRDOVR~33449/99102462025/ENE~1+2+3+22+4294967294+20~~~16+4294967201~90~all~mode+matchallany~~~~~navy/33449.jsp

i also want some brown leather derbies. these are both pretty cheap, but i'm also pretty poor.

http://www.shoebizsf.com/shop/sutro/fell-oxford-cognac-premium-leather.html
http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/urban/catalog/productdetail.jsp?id=18844803

what i like to do is fantasize about like edward green mto shoes and then everything seems so reasonable in comparison that its like you cant afford NOT to buy them

but yeah chocolate/dark brown suede derbys or def on my list

jeez i always get confused by the whole derby / blucher / oxford thing wrt shoes

shackets seem like perfect for SF weather. the patrik ervell 'fall shirt' i posted above is basically a 'shacket'; i wear it over buttondowns

ive seen the varsity jackets around for a while, i just have never really been into them for how i dress, but i really liked that PE one so my eyes are open to them now

heh i think jimmy wanted to take me to maas and stacks when i was in SF acouple weeks ago

lol @ 'shacket'

& yeah elmo thats exactly the kind of sweater i mean--basically want to wear one of those & smoke a pipe all day long

s0 tempted by a pair of winter weight cotton rag+bone trousers that are 50% off atm

this is a great thread, I bought everything everybody listed itt and now I am going to be really stylish this fall

thanks guys

good work

haha that was unnecessarily snarky. sorry.

where would one look for fair isle sweaters that aren't incredibly expensive (and please don't say "google")

hit up a thrift store, maybe? i really depends on yr budget and what you're looking for.