also, both tartans are of the clan that has the same name as my dog o_o
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
max there are a lot of varsity-styled jackets this season, it's def a thing now, i'm sure you could find one at a good price!
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
i kinda want a big cable knit shawl collar seafarer type sweater but every time i tell ari about it she laughs at me
it would be a nice gesture if she laughed all the way to the bank and then drew out some money and bought you one.
― estela, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
http://fashionstealer.com/PICTURES/STEALS/gant%20rugger/gant_rugger_nylon_varsity_jacket.png
gant rugger varsity jacket -- it's a nylon body instead of wool but it's p similar and it's on sale for ~$200 less than the ervell:
http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/urban/catalog/productdetail.jsp?id=20320982&CAWELAID=1003495375
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i like the wool though! also everything ive gotten from UO falls apart really fast
also real talk i cant really even afford a $100 jacket so while were *daydreaming* i might as well go for PE
― max, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
also as i said i already have 3 different fall jackets + two sweatshirts + a number of flannels so its like the last thing i need
― max, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
i got this ervell "fall shirt" last year when i was flush with cash and i love, love love love love love love it
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9sl96G8Ew1qcdzk5o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1316269582&Signature=ucHAkk4V9GqhjE3N1fg2ZaZDugA%3D
i hear you on the UO stuff in general but gant rugger is actually p great quality
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
i would love that fall shirt! looks very wearable.
― caek, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
think i will probably get these while back in the uk next week
http://assets.clarksmcr.com/products/0/0/1/00111767_A_p.jpg
colour is "cola"
― caek, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
desert boots are great
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
ha otm. i have bought one pair per year for the past 3 years!
― caek, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
is there any way to get that ervell shirt for < the current retail? are there deals to be had? : (
― caek, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
i got mine at an opening ceremony sample sale
― max, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
so...... move to new york!
oy!
― caek, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
I ordered that Weekend by Max Mara (secondary line, still $$$ but not ridiculous for something I will wear every day, every winter, for at least a decade)! It is shipping from the UK from a place called matches that looks like my kinda store. Crossing my fingers that the UK 12 was a good call. Anyhow, thanking u ilx for recommending max mara and thus drastically streamlining my search for a camel coat.
(Note: the coat is 49% wool, 33% alpaca, 12% nylon, 6% angora. Should be very warm with the alpaca in there!)
― quincie, Friday, 16 September 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
how much was shipping?
― caek, Friday, 16 September 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
forty five US bucks!
― quincie, Friday, 16 September 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
coats man. heavy shit.
― caek, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
yay q! hope it works out! i bet the UK 12 is right? i would have the same issue with uk size (10 or 12) and i usually err on the side of sizing up because if the shoulders don't fit, it's no good
also can i just make a comment: people are crazy. missoni for target? i know some of the crazy is just hype and marketing strategery but people! the stuff is still target quality and imo hideous! if you are going to troll ebay to buy missoni at a couple hundred a pop, dang, buy the real thing
― daria-g, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
japanese teenagers gotta do SOMETHING to bide the time
― max, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
the missoni thing is kinda funny, i had a friend who rapturously facebooked about the missoni lounge pants she scored. i mean. missoni lounge pants. c'mon.
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 16 September 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.norseprojects.com/client/norse/dynamic/images/414_7f6fbca77a-big.jpg
sorry vah1d
― Lamp, Friday, 16 September 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
I kind of hate Missoni to begin with so I haven't understood this mania at all.
― Octavia Butler's gonna be piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiised (Laurel), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
that sweater! dig the raglan sleeve
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 16 September 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
xpost yeah i hate it too - the prints, the colors, everything. completely not my style.
that sweater is great
― daria-g, Friday, 16 September 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
norse projects has some great sweaters
― max, Friday, 16 September 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
i like this guy too
http://www.norseprojects.com/client/norse/dynamic/images/419_ad934f5e31-big.jpg
― max, Friday, 16 September 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.norseprojects.com/client/norse/dynamic/images/398_8c737911c5-big.jpg
― max, Friday, 16 September 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
*sighs deeply*
Quincie: UK sizes are US+4 so US 6 = UK 10; US 8 = UK 12, etcBut my feeling is the actual fit depends on the store and usually on their range of sizes (so if the smallest they have is a size 2, that's likely to be similar to a size 4 in another shop where that's the smallest they run to).
With coats it's really hard anyway because I find sizing is often all over the place and depends on how thick it is, the cut, etc. 12 is probably fine!
― kinder, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
UK sizes are US+4 so US 6 = UK 10; US 8 = UK 12
It's so weird because some websites state what you said and others say it's +2 which is what I said yesterday. So inconsistent. US 6 = 8, US 8 = 10 and so on. I've definitely found that +2 to be closer most often. Nearly everything would be way too big if I went by the +4 thing.
― your mom the burrito (ENBB), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
For instance these two both do the +2
http://www.onlineconversion.com/clothing_womens.htm
http://www.asknumbers.com/ClothingWomensConversion.aspx
Whereas this one does the +4
http://www.fashion-411.com/Size_Conversions.htm
I guess though is we can't have standardized sizing across the industry within the country it would be ridic to expect international conversions to be consistent.
― your mom the burrito (ENBB), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah I checked here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clothing_size#Womenand 'dresses and suits' and 'women's clothes' are different! It's so dumb. Same as Quincie, I have managed to narrow my 'size' down to about 3 :-)
Hm, maybe that is why I've been finding clothes here generally too big, although I usually just look for the smallest size and that's often too big (and I'm not exactly a skinny waif) - I guess a lot of stuff is designed to be drapy or loose right now.
― kinder, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
Thinking about it I probably learned the +4 thing solely from H&M labels...
― kinder, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
how convenient that so many clothes are drapy and loose -- this means they don't have to actually "fit" and more people will buy them.dislike.
― some lady (La Lechera), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
Hm, maybe that is why I've been finding clothes here generally too big
― kinder, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
isn't this, like, one of the perks of dating same sex? sharing clothes?
yeah, sure, its more as elmo sd theres a weird territory btw 'want to smash' and 'want to dress/look like' thats sorta a queasy masturbatory thing going on a bit idk sorta outside the purview of this thread
― Lamp, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
ya, i get that. i always think it's weird when you see twinsies walking down the street
― jaxon, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
Can't find that white norse projects sweater in medium :(
― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
max there are a lot of varsity-styled jackets this season, it's def a thing now, i'm sure you could find one at a good price!― elmo argonaut, Friday, September 16, 2011 2:15 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this has been a thing for a while, hasn't it? or was it more in the hip hop scene and moving it's way into the normal style scene? i got this one back in 08
― jaxon, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
i <3 norse projects. i wanted a jacket for a while, but never found it in my size. there's one really small store in sf that sells it, but they're so tiny that they only carry a few pieces from each brand. http://www.maasandstacks.com
― jaxon, Friday, 16 September 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
i've been seeing them for at least a year, idk about the hiphop influence tbh but i kinda see them coming out of the ivy / prep trend of the past few years
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 16 September 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
i bought a vintage varsity jacket in 09 when it was a big runway trend iirc
― Lamp, Friday, 16 September 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
max is this the sort of sweater you were talking about?
http://www.ralphlauren.com/graphics/product_images/pPOLO2-10666036_lifestyle_v360x480.jpg
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 16 September 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
i want this jcrew wool cpo jacket. more like a shacket, but i'm always hot, so don't need anything thick
http://assets.svpply.com.s3.amazonaws.com/large/741077.jpghttp://www.jcrew.com/AST/Navigation/Sale/AllProducts/PRDOVR~33449/99102462025/ENE~1+2+3+22+4294967294+20~~~16+4294967201~90~all~mode+matchallany~~~~~navy/33449.jsp
― jaxon, Friday, 16 September 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
i also want some brown leather derbies. these are both pretty cheap, but i'm also pretty poor.
http://www.shoebizsf.com/shop/sutro/fell-oxford-cognac-premium-leather.htmlhttp://www.urbanoutfitters.com/urban/catalog/productdetail.jsp?id=18844803
― jaxon, Friday, 16 September 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
what i like to do is fantasize about like edward green mto shoes and then everything seems so reasonable in comparison that its like you cant afford NOT to buy them
but yeah chocolate/dark brown suede derbys or def on my list
― Lamp, Friday, 16 September 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
jeez i always get confused by the whole derby / blucher / oxford thing wrt shoes
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 16 September 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link