THE BIG 4 poll

Best album: rust in peace
Best song: fade to black
Best logo: metallica
Best guitarist: mustaine
Best bassist: cliff
Best drummer: lombardo
Best singer: araya
Best album cover: lightning
Best music video: holy wars

hey i'm not wild about where that thread went but it's not like screaming YOU MUST KNOW METALLICA at j0rdan is any more useful than screaming YOU MUST KNOW COLTRANE

dudes I'm just saying a big 4 poll is a cool thing so can we not have recycled rolling beef spillover on it thanks guys

i agree but tbh j0rdan came in here to meta troll so blame him

I'm assigning blame where it always belongs...on Metallica's deeply un-brolike treatment of Dave Mustaine

Im kinda bummed I couldnt go to this show

xp If you don't know at least 2 bands here, why would you bother voting

I voted for Obama because I've never heard of the other guy.

sorry, aero

it's ok I'm being an obnoxious blohard as usual so I don't really have much of a perch to yell from

could everybody go listen to that hanneman home demo now plz & then seek out the whole tape which is floating around & is unspeakably deep, that dude is just a concentrated supernova of riff creativity

If it was just two albums (Lightning and Puppets) I'd totally pick Metallica but as an overall band it's probably Slayer. I always appreciated Anthrax and Megadeth in some way but neither of them really did as much for me as I felt they should have.

can't name a single song by any of the other three

― markers, Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

http://i.imgur.com/YbTGO.gif

XD

i think i will vote for...anthrax?

please note that i am choosing to ignore anything after state of euphoria, but that in kind i am also ignoring everything after master of puppets/so far so good/seasons in the abyss so everybody is getting some preferential treatment here

Persistence of Time is like their best album wtf

maybe i haven't heard the right stuff from the others, but this is slayer by a mile for me

if slayer doesn't win this detonate ilm

slayer will rightfully win, but i threw a bone to metallica. dont feel good about casting my lot with m*rk*rs but thats my cross to bear. tbh megadeth is in the 'i respect them more than i enjoy them' category for me. anthrax feels like the odd man out but i guess i havent heard enough of their shit to really say

i like anthrax the most when they sound like slayer

Ha I actually meant persistence of time

Dont think it is their best but it's def the last good one

Sound Of White Noise is pretty incredible, but is essentially a different band.

Attack Of The Killer B's is p much the best Anthrax album, but you're not allowed to really admit it

\m/egadeth. but no helloween, no cred

Sound Of White Noise is pretty incredible, but is essentially a different band.

completely true. nice deep groovy record that is not at all a piece with, uh, the big four.

think i told whiney last night that i was really impressed by the guitar work of kirk hammett but i think i was just riding on the general euphoria of hearing those solos live

Hammett is a pretty awesome guitarist. I'd say the only clear "best musician among the bunch" is Lombardo, but these guitarists are all pretty cool composers/arrangers. Benante is the drummer Lars would always cite as why it he needed to slow down rather than try and keep up.

Anthrax and Megadeth have the best sense of humor (not hard, given that Metallica and Slayer are generally humorless).

I'm no Cliff purist, either, but his melodicism sets him apart from the usual invisible metal bassists. But I draw the line when the baton is passed from Jason to Trujillo, who is like Daryl Johnson in the Stones, talent-wise, slumming it.

(Speaking of which, heard an awesome story that when Johnson tried out for the Stones, they asked him to play "Start Me Up" or something, and when he said he wasn't familiar with it they cracked up so hard his joining the band was pretty much set.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHb4gs1hwck

Slayer, not close.

if slayer doesn't win this detonate ilm

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, vrijdag 16 september 2011 6:41 (8 hours ago) Bookmark

I'm voting for Anthrax. Talent/songwriting aside, they were the only one I REALLY dug back in the day and they're the only one I've gone back to in the past 20 years to play their old shit.

I could have gone to the show, but:

1) Saw Anthrax in 1991 with Public Enemy and they're never gonna top that, just like they're never gonna make another album even half as good as Persistence of Time again;
2) Seen Slayer three times (twice with Lombardo, once with Bostaph) and the first time I saw them with Lombardo they played "Die By the Sword" so, you know, I'm already in the can-die-happy-now zone w/r/t Slayer;
3) Seen Metallica twice on the Death Magnetic touring cycle and they're superb entertainers live, but I don't need to see them again;
4) Seen Megadeth three times (at Roseland in 2005, at Hammerstein on the 2008 Gigantour with High On Fire and Job for a Cowboy (who fucking killed it live so shut the fuck up) and this summer);
5) Yankee Stadium? Kiss my ass.

Anyway, I voted Slayer and here are my thoughts:

1) Not a single bad song on Reign in Blood or South of Heaven, and "Dead Skin Mask" is the only mistake on Seasons in the Abyss; the Bostaph-era albums are thoroughly underrated, especially Diabolus in Musica; Christ Illusion and World Painted Blood are both about 1000x stronger than anyone had a right to expect

Re Anthrax, they had one good album (the aforementioned Persistence and a few good songs scattered here and there otherwise; they've always been the weakest of the "Big Four." Scott Ian is a super nice guy, but musically his band is subpar 95 percent of the time.

Re Metallica, I listen to ...And Justice for All and Death Magnetic way more than anything else by them. I loved Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets when I was in junior high and high school, but honestly don't need to hear them ever again at this point.

Re Megadeth, I have to recuse myself. I'll just say that Endgame was just as much a "holy shit, they've still got it" moment as World Painted Blood (or Death Magnetic), and will let y'all know that their forthcoming album is the closest they've ever come to repeating Countdown to Extinction's mix of heaviosity, shredtasticism and radio hooks.

Basing this vote solely on output through 1991, I voted for Megadeth over what for most of my life would have been Metallica. Been on more of a kick with them lately. Will I regret this vote in a post-Lulu world?

Anthrax would have been in the running if they had only released State of Euphoria and Persistence of Time.

I have never been able to give a single damn about Slayer.

am I weird for really liking Among The Living or am I just too much of a Stephen King nerd

Among the Living is as far as I know their most widely-praised album, but I never heard it when I was a kid and when I went to listen to it as an adult, it didn't grab me for whatever reason.

I'm voting for Anthrax. Talent/songwriting aside, they were the only one I REALLY dug back in the day and they're the only one I've gone back to in the past 20 years to play their old shit.
--sick yr finger up his butt (DJP)

Otm. Of all these bands, Anthrax def has the highest number of albums id put on RIGHT NOW.

I've never heard Spreading the Disease either, now that I think of it.

What's your top 5 Big 4 songs everyone?

1. Slayer - "Angel Of Death"
2. Anthrax and Public Enemy - "Bring The Noise"
3. Metallica - "One"
4. Slayer - "Raining Blood"
5. Megadeth - "Sweating Bullets"

1. Metallica - Orion
2. Megadeth - Holy Wars ... The Punishment Due
3. Anthrax - Keep It In The Family
4. Metallica - Blackened
5. Megadeth - Hanger 18

I like Slayer and Megadeth a lot, but I don't think any of their records match up to either Ride or Master. OTOH, there's Metallica's multiple crimes to take into account, not least making Dave Mustaine cry. These might be made up for with Lulu, but I'm not sure.

I have to admit not knowing Anthrax, but I think I need to give Persistence of Time a listen.

Therefore I'm going to go Megadeth, on the basis that Slayer are likely to win and it would be good to give them a run for their money.

1. Metallica: For Whom the Bell Tolls
2. Slayer: Raining Blood
3. Megadeth: Symphony of Destruction
4. Metallica: Orion
5. Slayer: Angel of Death

"sweating bullets" is the joint

Over the years Anthrax has landed exactly where they should be. Metallica has overextended itself. Slayer is almost its own genre. Which leaves Megadeth the only true underdog of the bunch. Which is yet another reason Mustaine cries all the time.

1. Metallica - "Master of Puppets"
2. Slayer - "Postmortem"
3. Slayer - "Black Magic"
4. Metallica - "Fade to Black"
5. Megadeth - "The Conjuring"

This is a tough list to make, I can't squeeze Anthrax's "Metal Thrashin' Mad" or "Madhouse" on there...

As far as the quality of each band's last few albums go, Megadeth has been the best of the lot in my opinion.

1. "Master of Puppets"
2. "Raining Blood"
3. "Symphony of Destruction
4. "Bring the Noise"
5. "Madhouse"

came here to vote megadeth but HOLY SHIT that hanneman demo.

anyway, it takes a lot to be as embarrassing as metallica but megadeth sure did their best post-cryptic writings for a while there. (vaguely remember kinda maybe liking cryptic writings tho.) but man, I personally don't think any of these guys ever released anything in the same league as rust in peace. that part where the band drops into half time about a minute into "holy wars"... god, so freakin' good. so many moments like that on rust in peace. a band at the top of its game pumping out thrash of the highest caliber.

voting megadeth.

Re Megadeth, I have to recuse myself.

why do you have to recuse yourself on Megadeth??

In recent years I'm so gad Mustaine's reputation has gradually been put back in order. (Post-Some Kind of Monster, really, which itself wasn't that long after the 'I'll never play guitar again' pity party, though I think that's all just a coincidence). For years I'd always catch Megadeth as the opening act on shitty bills, like for the Crue or on Ozzfest, and they always killed it, but lately Mustaine's self-esteem seems restored.

"sweating bullets" is the joint

― me stalk shithead one day (some dude), Friday, September 16, 2011 10:50 AM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

they could honestly be Scarface lyrics

hahahaha otm

always wanted to like anthrax more than I actually did but not man is just the greatest mascot:

http://www.metal-metropolis.com/Anthrax/anthrax_euphoria_cartoon.jpg

fave cover of the bunch too:

http://media.weirdworm.com/img/misc/the-12-least-intimidating-metal-album-covers/metal.jpg

http://blogs.sohh.com/dirty/img/scarface-2008-07-03-300x300.jpg

Hello me, meet the real me and my misfits way of life
A dark black past is my most valued possession
Hindsight is always 20-20, but looking back it's still a bit fuzzy
Speak of mutually assured destruction....

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/154019/Bushwick+Bill.jpg
Nice story, tell it to reader's digest

Do metal guys ever get tired of making grrr metal faces? I guess not.

They are stuck that way.

why on Earth would you be a metal guy if you were the type of person who got tired of making grrr metal faces

Do indie guys ever get tired of making woe-is-me indie faces? I guess not.

Indie guys are all smiles now that the money's just rolling in.

the megadeth is my jam at kuma's

Sad indie dude look like that all the time, though. I doubt Hetfield walks around with a perma-grimace.

http://pineappleope.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/grimace.jpg

Grimace?

http://www.thegauntlet.com/photos/hetfield072508.jpg

I prefer
http://www.portlandmercury.com/images/blogimages/2008/09/16/r_1221585251_hetfield.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2GqW5F_C5M&feature=player_embedded%29http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2GqW5F_C5M&feature=player_embedded

ha yeah I saw that and thought about posting it

did I yet mention on this thread that I'm in a SLAYER!!! group on Facebook and I've been posting stuff from here on the wall there and vice versa?

correct results

though....THOUGH....Megadeth had a pretty good run in the late '00s, where they were probably at their second win. Endgame is better than some of their 80s output.

I still don't like the latest Anthrax album, though really enjoyed Worship Music.

I'm re-listening to Persistence of Time now for the first time in probably 15 years. They really weren't that good a band. Fun live, 30 years ago anyway, but as songs, these songs feel like a bunch of parts scotch-taped together and constantly falling apart.