is it brostep?

how the fuck is this article written by philip sherburne? I really hope this is a ridiculously edited online version!

if not, um... how do we summon him to thread?

this is a good idea for a cover story imo, tho it seems weird to lump tiesto in there, and maybe even justice

I liked the article but yeah the point might be better made if the piece were more Skrillex/Deadmau5/new faces and less Diplo/Tiesto

I went and listened to Skrillex's big hit. Y'know, for research. It's really bad.

yeah listening to it now... the central riff is pretty good imo but all the heavy bass dupstep stuff is terrible -- it could've been a great house song! oh well

It's like, you Google 'DJ,' (Tiesto) what comes up, y'know?"

psh no i just did this and spooky came up. and some news/realtime for medhi.

kind of reads like a "let's mention everything dance music-wise that sells in the US and order it by popularity and just kind of splat it all on the page with anecdotes to add minimal context"

assuming it has features/interviews with each of the mentioned artists on the cover?

how the fuck is dj spooky that subliminal kid on the first page of google results for "dj"?

yeah listening to it now... the central riff is pretty good imo but all the heavy bass dupstep stuff is terrible -- it could've been a great house song! oh well

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:54 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

Ha ha, I feel totally the opposite, like I'm down with the wub wub noisy bassline part and I just cannot deal with the Auto-Tune "melody" part-

but maybe this is the key to his popularity, the having-it-both-ways thing is supposed to mean "something for everyone"? mostly I get a strong junkfood feeling that makes me want to turn it off- I mean if I wanted harsh bassy stuff then I would go for Taciturne, Vex'd, DJ Scud, old breakcore stuff, or like stuff with good sound design like Errorsmith or Emptyset. This is just not for me. But don't the kids just love it . . .

kind of reads like a "let's mention everything dance music-wise that sells in the US and order it by popularity and just kind of splat it all on the page with anecdotes to add minimal context"

assuming it has features/interviews with each of the mentioned artists on the cover?

― mh, Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:58 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

you may have missed this key element: [Magazine Excerpt]

assuming it has features/interviews with each of the mentioned artists on the cover?

― mh, Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:58 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

also these parts:

(see SPIN magazine's "Electric Mayhem," page 54)
(see "Second Coming," page 64)

excerpt usually means part of an actual article, as in.. this is an actual article that is truncated, usually not condensed

also neither of those (see) sections directly references a feature directly on any single artist

stage energy is measured in ergs brah

does brostep have any other tricks besides that vibrating bass butterfly thingy

that's like asking if house has tricks beside a thumping bass and smiling face

well, does house have any tricks beside a thumping bass and a smiling face

also wtf is this

After dipping his toes into dance music with last year's Diddy-Dirty Money project, he recently recorded an album with the Israeli tech-house producer Guy Gerber.

i'm glad that there's a delineation bw dubstep and brostep

i don't listen to either but i feel the need to be snobby about it

also wtf is this

After dipping his toes into dance music with last year's Diddy-Dirty Money project, he recently recorded an album with the Israeli tech-house producer Guy Gerber.

interview here
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2011/09/06/a-special-kinda-guy-getting-deep-with-mr-gerber/

I snobbed out on my sister-in-law on facebook. She was like "I love folding laundry to dubstep!" and I just hammered in on her: "why are you living in 2006? you should be listening to post-dubstep! joy orbison? mount kimbie? ever heard of 'em?"

I was kidding, but I also wasn't.

I mean, I don't even really listen to post-dubstep...

Should I?

Wait...Skrillex looks like that???

haha, that is what my friend said

Me to thread. What's posted online is, indeed, just an excerpt. And what made it into the mag is just a fraction of what I *originally* wrote; I think I wrote 12,000 or perhaps 15,000 words for a piece that finally ran at about 5,500. (I do have a tendency to be long-winded.) And no, there aren't features on Tiesto, Deadmau5 or Diplo, but hey, you gotta sell magazines, right? There are features on dubstep and EDC.

a strong junkfood feeling

Yeah - this is exactly the way to describe this stuff. In small doses it's alright I guess in a mindless way - as I've mentioned, I used to quite like a bit of Caspa & Rusko when they first came out. But this is very far removed from the G dubstep - it's jump-up d'n'b filtered through nu-metal.

I want to read the 12,000 words version

7,000 of them are just WOBBLE WOBBLE WOBBLE

it's jump-up d'n'b filtered through nu-metal.

the vast majority of the under-18s i know who are into "dubstep" are also into nu-metal / screamo stuff w/ keyboards

similarly, all the people i know who used to listen to linkin park and pop-punk are now learning to DJ Nero and Flux Pavilion tracks.

7,000 of them are just WOBBLE WOBBLE WOBBLE

-- is wobbly nothing but an over-played pejorative now? it used to be a valid/accept descriptor for a lot of bassier jackin house even before the blog/fidget thing happened but i saw this post and then there was just some lame twitter event post about "getting some wobbbly bass + dubstep in your life" so i wonder.

well it's sort of the biggest factor in brostep isn't it? my impression of the 'problem' with this stuff is that the wobble is the most important thing, the central part of every track, which makes me think of it as barely being music -- and i don't mean that pejoratively, but literally, like i think of people going to these shows just to feel the vibration in a sort of ravey context. there's no depth or complexity to the music, not even an understanding of climaxing or coming down, it's just wobbly vibrations which could be a new experience for all those kids who've never gone to see loud bands play in small spaces. just a physical response to noise. of course i've never been to any of these shows so i don't know what my impression is worth, but that's a bit close to it right?

it's a bit close. i think the thing is that a lot of these kids *are* kids who often go see loud bands in small spaces, start to get burned out on the impact of drums/guitar/bass/screaming, and are picking up the same vibes from "bass wobble" that they might have in the past got from double kick drum or cookie monster vocals

i think of people going to these shows just to feel the vibration in a sort of ravey context.

This is a valid reason to listen to music though.

Can't wait for the crabcore/dubstep hybrids

Wait, maybe we have them!

The bass at Stink Like Sock in Cambridge is stupendously loud. Never heard anything like it. It grabs you by the balls, then the throat, then the stomach - and those are just the first three notes of 'where's my money'. So yes, it's often quite literally a physical thing. I'm waiting for them to invent a speaker system that blasts soundwaves big enough to suspend people in the air with bass. Something that'll physically throw you in the air. I can see that being more fun for teenagers than a bunch of embarrassing dudes in boardshorts playing music invariably about how their parents didn't give them enough money or about how they've got too much money now.

i think of people going to these shows just to feel the vibration in a sort of ravey context.

This is a valid reason to listen to music though.

― rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

oh i'm not saying it's not -- one of my favorite events is the high zero festival in baltimore largely because the pure noise experiments can have such a sensational effect on a physical level. i just have trouble classifying wobble wobble as "music" rather than "visceral experience that assuredly gets boring and bland after a few shows, right?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeyAeuoi4-E
Dubstep Hamlet)

where does this fit?

how not to be"

i just have trouble classifying wobble wobble as "music"

actually it's when they try to get "musical" that they get in trouble imo

Still waiting on the rise of footbro

I've never listened to brostep on speakers good enough for any sort of wobble-action to take effect.

http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/6/001/285/713/DV019_Jpg_Regular_514372.008_vintage_brown.jpg

Dobrostep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=124VzSLy7d0

I mean, brostep sucks and everything, but that's a fun jam to dance to.

That said, the chainsaw bits are completely unnecessary in the context of the song. Would have been better as a simple electro cover.

Oh wow, adult swim (Cartoon Network's for older viewers block of cartoons/shows shown late night) has a compilation they have tagged as "dubstep." They seem to have fallen on the not-brostep side of things. The not-dubstep side of things, too.

http://www.adultswim.com/promos/201109_unclassified/

adult swim + scion a/v/

scion has it's paws up in a lot of that scene.

I know, I instinctively cringe when I see that sponsorship on things but this is.... not mixed by some random dude and has some decent music?