"Mutant slow techno and Kevin Drumm records..." - A thread for Raime, Chasing Voices, Old Apparatus etc.

is that really a ryan mcginley photo? i was about to start making dash snow RIP joeks but thought better of it.

I have no idea, but it sure looks like one.

oh cool

i am w/ you ... BEB is a sick label, just wish i'd never read that interview

Yeah just saying that a goth/industrial retread in dance music was inevitable, and long overdue. Since what, 2000 or so(?), we've seen relative dabblings and near misses (via music and/or aesthetics) by way of DJ Hell, Immer, Blackstrobe, the cold/new/no wave revival, witch house, dubstep, what have you. Goths always suffered taking themselves way too seriously, but that was part of the point. At least BEB are delivering a sense of authenticity, though they'd do so even more by saying even less.

What I initially loved about the early dubstep salvos was this sense of secrecy (Burial, Zomby, etc). Chasing Voices drops a nameless monster scary sounding 12" with an equally scary faceless Phantasm/Mob Rules/Jawa looking troll on the sleeve and I'm thinking WTF is this? So good!

All this recent darkness and mystery in EM is really fun and exciting to me and I love the idea of a DJ threading something from Raster-Noton and Planet Mu with something from Hospital Records.

And it's definitely interesting to me that old goth stalwart label 4AD is now releasing Zomby and Joker LPs...

right?

i do think there is a continuum of goth from very mysterious to livejournal-scale oversharing

...which was covered so well in Phil Sherburne's witch house musings:

http://phs.abstractdynamics.org/2010/11/witch_house_dj_screw_and_the_n.html

Thanks for the heads up on that new Chasing Voices 12" matt2.

Kanding Ray and Emptyset are playing together in some Shoreditch car park later this month: http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?280986

All this recent darkness and mystery in EM is really fun and exciting to me and I love the idea of a DJ threading something from Raster-Noton and Planet Mu with something from Hospital Records.

― The Cold Stare of Hamilton Fletcher, Wednesday, September 14, 2011

Seems like one of the future BEB releases would link said DJ set together nicely...

"I've put out four records so far, all nicely aligned with each other, but I'm not yet finished establishing the parameters of what Blackest music is. The next 12-inch is Raime's Hennail, then after that an EP of lavishly arranged existential fire from a young Scottish duo called Young Hunting, some incredible SM electronics from Dominick "Prurient" Fernow's Vatican Shadow project, and a few other things that I don't wish to name right now, including a terrifying modern recording of a traditional East Anglian folk song and the first ever vinyl edition of one of my all-time favourite albums—think dourly mystical British pop, a beautiful jumble of tape loops, primitive synths and sighing, sagging chamber instrumentation."

Really pumped for the new raime ep, the phenomenal material they played at the end of their XOYO gig isnt on any of the other releases so im hoping this will be what ive been waiting for

Theres a BEEB showcase at basing house in a few weeks with regis, raime, cut hands etc. Great little venue, its not been invaded by the same only k is essex boneheads as every other club in shoreditch so should be awesome. Turns out BEEB head honcho is a mate of a mate so im winging for an introduction. Its the same night as wolves in the throne room so im going to have a seriously doomy one

Seems like one of the future BEB releases would link said DJ set together nicely...

I actually just recieved a portion of the new Vatican Shadow material, Pakistan Military Aademy in the mail yesterday and it's surprisingly housey, especially the B-side of cassette 1, "Staccato bursts of Gunfire". I suggest checking it out if you can track it down (casettes are notoriously limited to editions of 33 or 125 and always sell out in a day through hospital)

New Raimie should be out in a month or so btw.

getting into muslimgauze territory here

The calculatedness of SUCH ridiculously small pressings/editions of things with these guys bothers me. I understand that it's a reaction to our diseased modern era of having everything at our fingertips, etc etc, but it would be nice not to have to go to such insane lengths to get one's hands on it. At my most cynical, I feel like it's a cheap and calculated way to imbue this stuff with an aura of ultra-specialness that the music on its own probably doesn't merit.

TBF it could be they can't afford to print larger pressings

I'd wager that it's a little from column a, a little from column b...

it is ominous that one reads that interview, gets a good laugh at the responses, and once the word 'Raimie' appears in coolhunting ilxor thread the instinctive reaction is to shout FIRST!

Clarke, are you familiar with the noise....uh...'community'? Fernow (aka Prurient aka Vatican Shadow) was borne out of that scene, and that scene has always been about limited releases, whether it be for mystique-building or economic reasons. Sorry to point out the obvious, but I don't know, the limited-release phenomenon has never really bothered me, except during my heavy heavy NNCK obsession days where I'd sit with five eBay windows open hoping to win my bid on a 75-edition CDR or whatever.

(In other words, there are always means of hearing the music. Kneel Before Religious Icons is easily downloadable, for example.

I'm not worried about finding the music, and I realize it's pretty much going to be at least downloadable these days, but I'm shamefully a bit of a vinyl fetishist myself, so that's my preferred medium when possible. Ha, maybe it's because I know I'm so susceptible to being the five eBay window guy myself that I just have to vent sometimes... I mean, just this afternoon I picked up the "highly limited second vinyl pressing" of the Rrose + Bob Ostertag 2xLP on Sandwell District for far too much money at Other Music. (Speaking of which, if you're a fan of the stuff on this thread, I would urge you to check out Rrose, and this record in particular... Perhaps not as overtly darkly gothic as some of this stuff, but it's unabashedly black/slate grey in its tonal palette, cavernously deep, and with almost unbelievably tactile synth grit--like tiny pieces of black hail skittering off of an oil slick.

For instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btlt7ni5-n8

that rules

i met Bob at this gay bar a few months ago, and he said this was coming out, and i was like, "you're a big silver bear daddy and you're not wearing a shirt, you knew david wojnarowicz, and rrose is working with you on this record on Sandwell District? excuse me while i kiss your boots."

also yeah, it's a fabulous record.

also..."Kneel Before Religious Icons" is exactly what i want to be listening to right now.

I only just realised that I confused Hospital Records with Hospital Productions...

Not really sure how well it fits in here but went to see Anna Meredith play recently and figured some of you lot may be into it.

Table, that is awesome! The synth sounds on that record are just unbelievable...

man, rrose/ostertag lp is a real stunner. parts of it strongly remind me of techno blended with the very 'out' synth intro to herbie hancock's 'rain dance'. or just the more rhythmic end of 60s/70s electronic music in general. something like seesselberg, maybe? last few mins of the youtube above are a good example of what I'm trying to describe. love it!

thanks for the heads-up!

http://www.discogs.com/Vatican-Shadow-Kneel-Before-Religious-Icons/release/2697558

^^ this is so provocative. in that way that i feel provoked when my college-age neighbors forget to take the trash out and my driveway starts to reek of kitty litter and stale beer.

Cassettes with individual color j-cards and cases.
Arranged in a radially symmetric fashion inside a 6" reel-to-reel box with color images affixed to the inside and outside.
Edition of 33 numbered copies.
The order of the cassettes is ambiguous; the listing here assumes a clockwise order within the box.

^^ you can really tell how much thought went into this release

http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-2787493-1301028405.jpeg

i am gonna call my next noise track "critique the social order (own the complete set)"

this is quickly sliding from "promising" to easily the worst trend in electronic music in recent memory.

ehhh Prurient dude has been doing this sort of nonsense for a good decade without any interaction from the 'electronic community', I doubt it's going to noticeably bleed into anything else being talked about on here

eh, whatever, the record sounds good so tbh, i don't give a fuck.

ryan, whoever you are, thanks for that amazing webmail. made my afternoon— doing lots of freelance legal research work, and the new sounds are allowing for a bearability i wasnt expecting... cheers to you.

Chasing Voices out now:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=248636591845815&id=76012193325

looking forward to downloading the 'extremely limited' mp3

I caught up with Ekoplekz to chat about his new record on Punch Drunk, plus he gave us some exclusive tracks for your dowloading pleasure: http://www.sonicrouter.com/2011/09/ekoplekz-the-creative-exchange-between-man-and-machine/

So really, does anyone know who Chasing Voices is?

that ekoplekz album was sort of wack i thought

I guiltily never listened to it despite having a friend who loves the guy

Ah, I was looking for a thread about Ekoplekz. I love this guy's sound. His instruments hiss and fizz as though they could deliver a nasty shock if improperly handled. Those bass sounds are so fucked up and dirty - in a way this is what I've always secretly wanted dub to sound like. I've always been in love with the idea of Lee Perry or King Tubby surrounded by tape equipment, wrecked'n'repaired electronics, multi-coloured wires spitting out of crust-enfilled sockets in a van or a ramshackle hut somewhere. This kind of takes it to its logical conclusion - creating true dub sounds using the studio itself as an instrument, rather than reconstructing pre-existing recordings.

The Ekoclef collab with Bassclef is very interesting and worthwhile from what I've heard so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJobaxZqy18

Ayshay - Warn-U

Couldn't have said it better myself Dog Latin, I can't get enough of his stuff. It really is how I've always wanted dub to sound at times. He just hits all the right buttons for me in that no mans land between synth experiments, dub, bass and I dunno post-punk or something haha...

Received my copy of the Another Walk 12" by Chasing Voices today. Pretty brilliant stuff. One sided LP, and the track itself is on the short side, so some might feel a bit ripped off ($15!), but it's consistent with the package, which has no information on it anywhere, not even on the label or spine. You know, stark. Don't love it as much as Acidbathory, but that's a hard 12" to beat.

Also, this stuff played loud, through headphones = totally different experience. Jamming Regis' In A Syrian Tongue 12" right now through headphones at top volume. My god, those drums! That bass! Unreal.

yeah, i was going to mention that listening to this stuff very loud using headphones is...something else.

New Andy Stott: http://soundcloud.com/modernlove/sets/andy-stott-we-stay-together

Nice one, thanks

Pitch this guy's stuff down a bit, and he'll fit right in (well, with Andy Stott at least):

http://soundcloud.com/fourth-wave/4th002-gerry-read