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Where did this review come from? Allmusic catching up.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/adult-r1013293/review

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

Don't think I've ever seen this one before and it's pretty crazy. I'll probably buy a bunch of the DVDs at some point. At least I currently have a better DVD set-up, plus a more sound-insulated apartment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyhFAzdYMqs

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 06:15 (twelve years ago) link

okay maybe a bit too silly, plus she gets into her uneven English here.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 06:23 (twelve years ago) link

I was in Japan recently, made a trip to Disk Union in Tokyo and grabbed myself the Gekokujou Xstasy DVD, a couple of the clips compilations and the single 3cd box that looks like CD-Rs. Could have easily gone mental with it, but I noticed there is another TJ DVD just out, is this from it?

solfege made me schizophrenic (MaresNest), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 09:24 (twelve years ago) link

This looks like it's from a familiar TJ concert DVD (Virgin Line, is it? Milton would know), but just happens to be a segment I haven't seen before. But you could be right, maybe it simply wasn't made available until now. I haven't read up on the new TJ DVD(s?).

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

Or: I don't know.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

that's the version of 'Kenka Joutou' from 'Just Can't Help It', the concert DVD that came out after 'Adult'. I love the spoken word intro but the metal middle 8 is pretty ridiculous. That one is not one of the better DVDs, still hard to believe they released that instead of 'Domestic Virgin Line'.

haven't been keeping up with the DVDs for a while but the youtubes from the 'Ultra C' DVD looked ok

looks like there's a new Ringo Shiina CD single coming out on November 2nd called 'Carnation'
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=TOCT-45045

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

I am not stoked.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

I have kind of been ignoring the fact that there was supposed to be a new single out. Not really feeling this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2kaTsMxUHQ

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 21 October 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

In fact, I'd say it sucks.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 24 October 2011 02:58 (twelve years ago) link

I like it, does this mean there's a rekkid coming?

sleigh tracks (1933-1969) (MaresNest), Monday, 24 October 2011 09:25 (twelve years ago) link

This cut from the new EP is much better than "Carnation":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34BVyR0K_9c

Listen to it before it gets taken down. Not exactly in love with this vocal style, but can kind of go along with it in this context. Lots of cool stuff happening.

On the Heat Release of Burning Karaoke Music Compartments (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 5 November 2011 05:00 (twelve years ago) link

This is the best new song I've heard from SR or TJ for a little while.

On the Heat Release of Burning Karaoke Music Compartments (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 5 November 2011 05:05 (twelve years ago) link

Is this the one where she's singing in French? Glad I don't understand French, if so.

On the Heat Release of Burning Karaoke Music Compartments (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 5 November 2011 05:07 (twelve years ago) link

This song is: 私の愛するひと (Watashi no Aisuru Hito)

On the Heat Release of Burning Karaoke Music Compartments (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 5 November 2011 05:09 (twelve years ago) link

Sounds pretty Sanmon Gossipy but at the moment I like it more than anything from that album.

On the Heat Release of Burning Karaoke Music Compartments (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 5 November 2011 05:18 (twelve years ago) link

It's kind of "Latin," the piano especially.

On the Heat Release of Burning Karaoke Music Compartments (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 5 November 2011 05:19 (twelve years ago) link

This is not bad. I don't remember this performance being up before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmZDx7ZK7BY

On the Heat Release of Burning Karaoke Music Compartments (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 5 November 2011 05:52 (twelve years ago) link

This is the best new song I've heard from SR or TJ for a little while.

yep. also the production's way more disjointed than anything on sanmon gossip

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

the actual single is shiina showtune autopilot, which is a shame

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

I agree about the single. "Watashi no Aisuru Hito" is still kind of weak as a tune. I keep having trouble remembering how it goes--at all. It doesn't have the melodic strength of her earlier solo work (or a lot of her writing for Tokyo Jihen), but there's enough happening to keep things interesting.

On the Heat Release of Burning Karaoke Music Compartments (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

new 5 song EP / new live DVD / CD 'Best Live Selection'

and then they announce they're breaking up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2BlA1WIGgY&feature=related

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, I missed the best live CD thing. Hopefully they go out with a bang.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

'much noise for nothing'

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

first time she's committed suicide in a video in quite a while. and: she has replaced her mole

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

Did I miss something (in the video--I definitely had missed that they had formally announced they were breaking up)? I don't think she commits suicide in that video. Kills someone else, yes. I guess that's the band, symbolically.

Kind of sad and glad at the same time. What a frustrating band they have been.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

Hadn't listened until now, home. Not impressed with the song.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

kinda sad... i guess it was kind of inevitable. ah well, i'm sure she'll put out at least another 10 albums in her career, so i can't feel too bad... but the last few jihen/SR albums have been kinda stagnant

can i say, i have really not dug her looks for the last couple of years

Nhex, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

by looks i mean the obsessive use of 40s themes, hair dye, etc.

Nhex, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

Meanwhile, new Shiina ballet music. No singing:

http://spacehalo.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/between-today-and-tomorrow-preview/

Can't find this on youtube at the moment. And this, well, the dress is kind of fun:

http://vimeo.com/34417460

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 15 January 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

• What's the last thing a drummer says in a band?
"Hey guys, why don't we try one of my songs?

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

<3 Hata, amazing amazing drummer. His only composition/vocal for Jihen is the last track on their last release of new material Color Bars and it is hard to know what to make of that entire EP.

Tokyo Collection CD: (I dig Uki's look here)

http://www.jpopasia.com/img/album-covers/2/15839-tokyocollection-3j4r.jpg

Discovery BluRay:

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/10/04/TOXF-5723.jpg

Can't wait for the track list of 'Tokyo Collection' compiling live versions 2004-2011. First pressing already sold out at cd japan.

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link

http://kronekodow.com/english/gaiko/colorbars_interview.html

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

Incidents Tokyo, which has provided us five tour-de-force albums around the theme of television channels, ‘Education,’ ‘Adult,’ ‘Variety,’ ‘Sports,’ and ‘Discovery,’ put an end to programming with this album, ‘color bars.’

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMLhJTM3xDk&feature=related

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

Once again, it's amazing just how perfect they sound in live performances. Yes, I guess I mean that in a muso way. The weakest link here is Shiina's belting which I'm not really enjoying much. I do find myself like this performance more than the studio version, even so.

I know someone who is going to Kyoto (next month I think) for an international studies program. I got her to listen to some SR/TJ and the one thing she really liked was the Dynamite Out version of "Sounan." She didn't say anything about the solo SR stuff. I'm tempted to throw some more recent things at her, but I'm holding off in hopes that she'll come back and say: hey, that band you were telling me about was all over TV and radio. The timing should work out that way, I think, with their recent break-up, but going out with the Color Bar EP and so on.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

Hata sounds particularly amazing there. His sound is a bit different than usual in a way I can't put my finger on at the moment.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

I notice she says "thank you" in Japanese here, which somehow jumps out at me since she almost always seems to say it in English.

But yeah, the belting is a bit like the worst live performances of "Killer Tune" all over again. Sorry, I am just not into it. And given the other ways she is sometimes capable of singing, I don't know why she falls back on it so damn much.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

There's all sorts of new live stuff up on youtube, but I haven't been keeping track. (I continue to be pretty preoccupied with politics (not particularly in the horse race sense, though some of that as well) and "current events," and getting off the internet a bit more and reading books again. Meanwhile, more casual about music.)

Somehow I thought their last concert was due in March or even April. I didn't realize it already happened in February.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

This sounds good, but still doesn't redeem what is basically kind of a boring song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=donSJaDkbQc

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

Re(a)ding and ignorance: Poetic constraints of lyric
Theisen, Nicholas; Ramirez-Christensen, E.. University of Michigan, 2009. 2009. 3382459.
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As an exercise in comparative poetics, this dissertation brings together lyrics in various media and language traditions (Greek, Latin, English, and Japanese) in an effort to refigure lyric reading practices. I argue that the interpretation of lyric involves simultaneous acts of reading and writing and redefine the practice of reproducing the text of an interpreted work within the interpretation itself as reding , from an archaic spelling of the verb read , i.e. rede .

The first chapter defines what reding is, namely the recomposing of a text within criticism, and uses Heidegger's "A Dialogue of Language" to demonstrate that reding involves an act of willful ignorance, where the reder uncovers something new in a text by completely ignoring problems of accuracy. In the second, I examine how Anne Carson's multiple translations in If not, winter ; Eros the bittersweet ; and other texts serve at once to dis- and re-integrate the fragments of Sappho. In chapter three, I use Tawara Machi's translation into contemporary Japanese of Yosano Akiko's Midaregami to reconfigure reding itself in an etymological analysis of the Japanese verb yomu (at once "to read" and "to compose"). Chapter four tries to understand how redings have become almost seamlessly inscribed in the Latin text of Catullus and to make sense of his textual silences. Chapter five returns to Yosano Akiko to see how when a poet abandons any specific responsibility for or to her text that both she and her reader/reder are freed from the trap it can become. The final chapter is a coda in which Shiina Ringo's various lyric media are used to show that while reding carries with it the possibility of a greater poetics of interpretation, it also bears the risk of being rede in kind.

This dissertation contributes to a broader understanding of reading practices in the critical reception of poetry, to comparative poetics, and to lyric theory by using philological methods to bring popular song back into discussion with lyric poetry, particularly in using its intrinsically multimedial nature to reflect not only on song itself but on lyric as a whole and the problems of subjectivity therein.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

Poor Tokyo, though. I don't think the population of Tokyo is going to make it. How many deaths are we going to see in ten or twenty years (assuming no big catastrophe before that--which is something that can't be assumed).

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 22 March 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link

Fans only, the last six minutes of the Electric Mole DVD (the final solo-era release before the mole-wiping Jihen-era)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVFNsPbjvZY

Milton Parker, Thursday, 22 March 2012 05:08 (twelve years ago) link

A bit spooky. I hope it doesn't give me weird dreams. Not that it really matters as I've reached an age where when I have weird scary dreams I tend to just step back and say: yeah, whatever.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:11 (twelve years ago) link

basically agree with rudi's opinion on that video above

the first track and ukigumo's track from color bars are great, the rest ehhhhh.

is the first song from Tokyo Collection new? dope stuff

Nhex, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:16 (twelve years ago) link

Just to be clear, I actually liked that segment from Electric Mole. I genuinely was thinking it might give me unpleasantly strange dreams though.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:36 (twelve years ago) link

oops, not that video, the concert video above it

Nhex, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:58 (twelve years ago) link

That live Atarashii Bunmei-kaika Milton posted has grown on me a bit already, belting not really bothering me so much.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 29 March 2012 06:49 (twelve years ago) link

Near typhoon strength low pressure system headed for Fukushima. :(

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link


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