yeah this is good
kinda reminds me of oval
kept expecting a kick drum to come in but really glad it didn't
what does "same old midi-fied schtick" mean
― missingNO, Saturday, 10 September 2011 09:22 (twelve years ago) link
it means he keeps making his sound more and more lo-fi yet it's still very digital (ie: everything released as games / ford and lopatin), and i think this new track could benefit from the attention to detail you'd find on an oval record. it's like he's approaching the creepy cut-off loops with a chillwave aesthetic and it just sounds kinda flat and annoying to me?
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
"attention to detail"
U trollin
― lukas, Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
can you explain? do you hear some level of intricacy in the sound design on this track that my ears are too ignorant to pick up? it's a style that forces you to pay attention to texture, and this texture sounds muddy imo. and whatever pitch that distortion is in gives me a headache every time (not that i can't handle extreme/high pitched tones, just give me ryoji ikeda over this any day)
these criticisms don't apply to any other opn material fwiw
this harmonizer thing with greg davis on the software label sounds awesome tho, some definite jon hassell vibes
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Sunday, 11 September 2011 05:26 (twelve years ago) link
ha, looking upthread i realize i am a bit late on the harmonizer woops
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Sunday, 11 September 2011 06:51 (twelve years ago) link
This song seems kind of a chore to listen to
― The-Dreams That Money Can Buy (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 11 September 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
its like a rubbish footwork remix of a opn track. the ominous chillwave undertow is the best thing about it
― ogmor, Sunday, 11 September 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
psychgawsple, you likely have better ears than i do - maybe if i had your ears the sound would drive me nuts. that said, this is a track with tape hiss and a sense of unease, from a dude that loves the pathos of dusty gear. the low-quality samples fit. personally my favorite moments are when he gets past that, i'm thinking of moments on the f+l record and much of returnal. but thinking that the track would be better if oval produced it is missing the point.
― lukas, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
i'm liking 'channel pressure' but it's a little too jumpy? fuck concept albums imo. there's so many cool moves and great little moments but i just feel like they should all get their own song. i thought 'that we can play' was really moving, this doesn't let its ideas breathe as much, even though a lot of it is a step up, idk
― banana mogul (goole), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
ya i get that the fidelity stuff is deliberate, but i like tape hiss (usually) and i just don't think it suits that style. but w/e i think an album of him attempting similar things from different directions could be great
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
https://twitter.com/riverscuomo/status/116226967300358144
https://twitter.com/0pn/status/116229792520617984
https://twitter.com/riverscuomo/status/116238295104622592
― Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
Haha. The next best thing since Loutellica: Oneothrix Point Cuomo.
― 'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
OMG, if this happens I am SO over Loutallica.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
xp - i know what you mean about channel pressure being both a step up and a step down... did you like the instrumentals tho? if you wanted things to have more room to breathe that might be a good option
lol no way that collab can be bad right?
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
ooh wee ooh I look just like a lossy VHS of buddy holly
― ima.tumblr.com (@imsothin) (m bison), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
god damn you half cybertronic girls, you do it 2 me every time
― memories of c-murder (Lamp), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link
"hrm... i am a huge lopatin stan but this seems like the kind of tune that could really use some of the immersive sound engineering skills of an actress or andy stott, but instead he's doing the same old midi-fied schtick. i could still maybe be persuaded by a better quality mp3"
"it means he keeps making his sound more and more lo-fi yet it's still very digital (ie: everything released as games / ford and lopatin), and i think this new track could benefit from the attention to detail you'd find on an oval record. it's like he's approaching the creepy cut-off loops with a chillwave aesthetic and it just sounds kinda flat and annoying to me?"
This doesn't make any sense to me. Actress' stuff is totally lo-fi and very digital; OPN, up until the new album, has worked mostly with analog gear, and not a ton of audible processing. Also, I have no idea what you mean by "MIDI-fied schtick."
― pshrbrn, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 08:34 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah the Oval comparison hit me when i heard this new material live the other week at field day. Id say the closest parallel is the first field album which was pretty lo-fi but had its charm. The Pitchfork track was probably the poppiest moment and not really representative, the rest of the loops were seriously mangled (though occasional hiphop rhythms would surface) and there was a lot more oval style information overload noise like the first track on returnal. Overall it left me puymped for the new album.
― straightola, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link
Listening again its the field if he was more into theo parrish
― straightola, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link
Totally stoked for Weezabix Point Never
― master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 11:16 (twelve years ago) link
Actress' stuff is totally lo-fi and very digital
i guess actress uses effects/distortion in a way that doesn't strike me as 'lo-fi' at all? and when i talk about lopatin becoming more lo-fi and more digital i am referring to the games/ford and lopatin releases, he even had a song called "too much midi" fer chrissakes (not to mention an entire album of overblown digital pop). and tho i loved these production values/midi schtick on channel pressure i think it sounds distracting on this new song, like it's being used more in the manner you would find on a ltd edition tape release on a boutique label- sorta slapped on top of the song for effect instead of placed within the song in a dynamic way? i'm really sick of explaining this btw
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
just chill and ride the soundwaves bro
― #@_@# (Lamp), Thursday, 22 September 2011 03:31 (twelve years ago) link
fer real i need a smoke
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 22 September 2011 06:02 (twelve years ago) link
Pre-orders for the new record now up... http://oneohtrixpointnever.bigcartel.com/
― Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
audiophile bundle is very tempting
― jeff tWEEDy (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
lol cmon really?
― señorita buttstench (Lamp), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
he's playing a free gig on the boston waterfront today, apparently--let me know if you want to come with
― geeta, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
Another Replica track, "Andro" (which IMO sounds much more like 'classic'/sleepy/synth-led OPN than "Sleep Dealer", but still has that added rhythmic/sample-loop element in the background) starts off this Mixcloud mix:http://pregnantkettle.blogspot.com/2011/09/lost-idol-morning-glory-26th-september.html
― Hold me closer, tiny blushda (Craig D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
(Nice little Black Dice-y bongo/hand-drum bit at the end of the track, though)
― Hold me closer, tiny blushda (Craig D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
i like the artist and i like cool stuff and i like being able to pay a little more to support the artist and his projects
plus i imagine if i ever decide to sell the test pressing, the bundle will end up paying for itself
― jeff tWEEDy (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/mexicansummer/oneohtrix-point-never-replica
newt rack
― Lowell N. Behold'n, Thursday, 13 October 2011 02:39 (twelve years ago) link
recalls vincent gallo, boards, opn, etc. better than "sleep dealer" !
― Lowell N. Behold'n, Saturday, 15 October 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
Enjoying Never more than I thought I would. Really like Nassau. The whole thing sounds more IDMy than to me previous works. I like the vocal snips.
― mmmm, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:15 (twelve years ago) link
new OPN streaming here: http://soundcloud.com/mexicansummer/sets/oneohtrix-point-never-replica. never listened to this dude before, like it more than i expected to.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
rest of it sounds better to me than "Sleep Dealer." pretty cool overall, don't like it as much as "Rifts" though.
― dmr, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
this is distractingly annoying at times imo but it has some ok moments. doubt i'll listen to it very often
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 06:10 (twelve years ago) link
the last track, in particular, is really nice.
i think the new james ferraro thing was p much exactly what i wanted this album to be tho... so at least that exists
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 06:13 (twelve years ago) link
new james ferraro is very excellent
― lukas, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 06:39 (twelve years ago) link
Very different from the last one but I like it.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Thursday, 3 November 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
i think the new james ferraro thing was p much exactly what i wanted this album to be tho
haha :/
― RR (Lamp), Thursday, 3 November 2011 06:09 (twelve years ago) link
still don't get why you don't like that!
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Friday, 4 November 2011 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
i'll join the chorus of ppl who prefer rifts. i get that he couldn't keep making synth drone forever for fear that he'd turn into jean-michel jarre and, like, play casinos or something... but the synth stuff was so much nicer aesthetically. i read his interviews and it seems like he's for sure making important art
trying to let this one grow on me. i figure there's a real possibility that it'll happen - like, i find jarre to be extremely listenable but unchallenging to the point of being boring, while on the flip side i've revisited some noisey drone stuff that previously fucked with my head (whitehouse) to surprisingly positive results.
so yeah... in sum: cool album, tough listen, but i'll cut it some slack cuz OPN seems like a rad dude who knows what's up
― oneohtrix point zero (fennel cartwright), Friday, 4 November 2011 03:42 (twelve years ago) link
I dig the first track where it goes through a few different sections, especially the shift in the last minute or so
― dmr, Friday, 4 November 2011 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
Dig returnal way more than rifts, guessing I'll be into this
― lukas, Friday, 4 November 2011 06:55 (twelve years ago) link
can we agree that returnal is a summer album? like, it captures some weight-y--heat on the planet's surface -type-of-'jams'new one feels kinda lite
― Lowell N. Behold'n, Friday, 4 November 2011 07:01 (twelve years ago) link
i do not think that this new record sounds 'lite' at all, there are some relentless moments on there
i also don't think it sounds much like returnal, which was wayyy more similar to rifts imo
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Friday, 4 November 2011 07:11 (twelve years ago) link
After listening to Rifts on five separate occasions, in different contexts and on different players, I think I finally have to admit that I'm really not feeling this one at all.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
Wait, are you saying you don't like Rifts or the new one?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
Oh sorry, I mean Replica. I love Rifts.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
really like this album!!
― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 04:30 (twelve years ago) link