I count 16/50 playing nonfiction characters, kinda low?
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link
how many of fictionals had debilitating condition though?
― hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link
oh c'mon, clem: I'm always willing to read sharp reappraisals.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:11 (twelve years ago) link
http://cdn1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/116/519/243/PS68IQs9OXew4cC.jpg
― hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
Just fooling and pretending. Spacey kills me in American Beauty. To me it's a much better comedic performance than 99% of actual allegedly comedic performances. I think he gets just the right balance of contempt for his job, contempt for his family (but also love, at least for his daughter), and Play It Again, Sam-level abject helplessness when it comes to Mena Suvari.
For me, it's not a strong list--which could mean it wasn't a strong decade, or could just mean (and probably does) they missed all the good stuff. (Somebody I'd like to see on there based on recent viewing: Matthew Broderick in Election.) I think a list of supporting nominations might be stronger.
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
Richard Farnsworth - The Straight Story
Great performance in an overlooked film.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
Broderick's supporting actor, no?
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe he was nominated as such, but I'm positive he'd be lead in terms of actual screen time--certainly compared to Travolta or Hopkins above.
One more thought about Spacey. I would hope that even people who hate the film--because of they think it's pretentious, because of the paper-bag stuff, because the kids are cretins (not for me; I'm trying to argue the other side)--I would hope they'd at least find Spacey funny. Or am I wrong; is he one of the reasons people hate the film?
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link
Steve Shasta, make sure you actually vote--Farnsworth will be in the lead!
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
clemenza- hate the film, but yes spacey is good (and funny) in it- and yeah i agree that supporting turns would be a stronger list for the 90's
― hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
That makes more sense to me.
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:40 (twelve years ago) link
i hate american beauty but i do think spacey gives a good performance in it (would've given it to penn or farnsworth that year though). best/biggest piece of ham: deniro in cape fear, pacino in hooah, hopkins as nixon, or nicholson in as good as it gets? deliberately left out hoffman there.
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
Took a quick look, and for me, definitely supporting: Pesci in Goodfellas, Jackson in Pulp Fiction, Macy in Fargo, Forster in Jackie Brown, and Reynolds in Boogie Nights (missing the best of all, Jackson in Jungle Fever). Anyway, I know it's a lead-actor thread.
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
lol at De Niro getting consecutive nominations for two of his worst films and performances.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
macy should've gotten lead for fargo really.
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
Cape Fear for sure--dreadful.
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
COWNSLUH
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:55 (twelve years ago) link
Fargo is about as lazy and cynical as American Beauty.
btw it was a plastic bag, clemenza.
Cape Fear has its moments, and DeNiro is funnier than you seem to be claiming Spacey is.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
will take cape fear over as good as it gets or scent of a woman a million times (obv never over nixon).
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
I only saw Ulee's Gold the one time on release, but I remember Fonda being very good (although one of those characters who'd be annoyingly humble to some people).
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
god when deniro dresses up as the housekeeper
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:58 (twelve years ago) link
De Niro definitely wins best...worst tattoos.
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:58 (twelve years ago) link
xpthat was robin williams?
― hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
I did think Cape Fear was MS's low at the time, but I could never have imagined Shutter Island.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link
adding to omissions: terence stamp in the limey, marky mark in boogie nights (maybe)
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link
saw casino again a week ago and it holds up
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
ie still a huge disappointment
Stamp, Fonda, and Warren in The Limey def.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
hell if clooney's gonna get regular nominations i'll sure as fuck take him in out of sight over that awful awful up in the clouds movie every time.
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:04 (twelve years ago) link
oh shit -- I forgot Stephen Rea!
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:05 (twelve years ago) link
Not that it was ever going to get him a nomination, but Keitel in Smoke would be near the top of my list (arguably a supporting role, now that I think about it).
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
lol i found out the 'twist' in the crying game when the oscar nominations were announced that year. also took a girl on the first date to the crying game. lol 90s.
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
OH FUCK - keitel in bad lieutenant, add that shit to omissions
When the audience learned The Secret, an old biddy seated in front of us turned to her companion and says triumphantly, "OH, see, THAT's the surprise!"
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:08 (twelve years ago) link
nice turn by giancarlo esposito as a young morbs in smoke
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:08 (twelve years ago) link
hell if clooney's gonna get regular nominations i'll sure as fuck take him in out of sight over that awful awful up in the clouds movie every time
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:09 (twelve years ago) link
ok ok so which ones are in you guys' top fives then?
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:09 (twelve years ago) link
is the crying game the origin of twist mania in hollywood? i was thinking it didn't really kick in until sixth sense but usual suspects, david fincher's career are before that so maybe not.
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:10 (twelve years ago) link
Haley Joel Osment is another victim of Award Fraud (i.e. he shoulda been Best Actor).
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:11 (twelve years ago) link
I was going to add, "But thank god he wasn't nominated for Bad Lieutenant..." It's been ages, I should probably give it another chance.
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:12 (twelve years ago) link
Did anyone else think that Cage's winning performance was just a lot of anguished histrionics?
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:13 (twelve years ago) link
Cage's specialty up to that point was in histrionics. The film is more histrionic than Cage and Shue are. At the time I thought Penn should've won the Oscar and let Shue beat Sarandon.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link
These are all quite good performances:
Woody Harrelson - The People vs. Larry FlyntRobert Duvall - The ApostlePeter Fonda - Ulee's GoldSean Penn - Sweet & LowdownNick Nolte - Affliction
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link
eh top of my head in no particular order based on somewhat distant memories
irons in reversal of fortunepenn in dead man walkingpenn in sweet and lowdowntravolta in pulp fictiondenzel in malcolm x
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link
Mike Figgis may be the only person breathing who adores Sting the solo artist.
thought leaving las vegas was awful flick but cage and esp shue were great in it. i do wonder how those careers are different if he loses and she wins though.
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:16 (twelve years ago) link
i know for a fact that marilu henner is a huge sting fan.
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
cage would've been incredible in hamlet 2
― hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
Irons' acceptance speech is class:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsXFl6IKpyI
He thanks Cronenberg for directing him in his best un-nominated performance.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
Sting might be the only person breathing who likes Mike Figgis films.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
Sarandon's finally winning the Oscar marked the moment when she jumped the shark and lost her snap.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:18 (twelve years ago) link
i think her snap runs a ping pong themed nightclub or something now.
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:19 (twelve years ago) link
snap
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:19 (twelve years ago) link
all time fave oscar speechhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Q_nyjuEak
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^ oddest supporting actor lineup ever?
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link
Pacino's mullet!
I liked Cage in Valley Girl, [i]Peggy Sue Got Married, and Raising Arizona, but yeah, he was pretty over the top in Wild at Heart.
― clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:23 (twelve years ago) link
wonderfully understated imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfcvPFpXUnI
― hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:27 (twelve years ago) link
i was aware that brenda fricker won an oscar for my left foot, i'm aware that the previous year's best supporting actress winner gives away the best supporting actor award and yet it still felt very weird to see brenda fricker there.
― balls, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
i really dig these:
Denzel Washington - Malcolm XWoody Harrelson - The People vs. Larry FlyntBilly Bob Thornton - Sling BladeRobert Duvall - The ApostleSean Penn - Sweet & LowdownSean Penn - Dead Man WalkingNick Nolte - Affliction
i guess sling blade was a gimmick perf, but it was a good one!
thinkin i'll vote for woody, duvall or nolte
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:38 (twelve years ago) link
Brenda Flicker's win, although deserved, was classic coattails win.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:39 (twelve years ago) link
I finally saw Sling Blade last year; it doesn't move at all! The movie only really picks up whenever Dwight Yoakam and John Ritter enter.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
yoakam's fucken great in it! now that's a guy who never really gets his due. still a hard movie to put in context w/rest of billy bob's career (well maybe not so hard considering all the pretty horses)
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
yeah Yoakam should've gotten a supporting nod.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
Irons, Duvall & Nolte (affliction) are the only ones I rate highly
― buzza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 03:44 (twelve years ago) link
awww @ Cronenberg getting a little ovation in the Irons clip. (Dead Ringers is probably my fave of his.)
― Simon H., Saturday, 10 September 2011 03:59 (twelve years ago) link
still gutted and baffled that Ray Winstone wasn't even nominated for Nil By Mouth. just about wipes the floor with this lot.
― piscesx, Saturday, 10 September 2011 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
eastwood imo
― Lamp, Saturday, 10 September 2011 07:11 (twelve years ago) link
Cage's winning film impressed hetero men who've seen too much porn.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 September 2011 13:02 (twelve years ago) link
d/ling now
― hipstery nayme (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 18 September 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
Vote, you hippies.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
Jeremy Irons - Reversal of FortuneAnthony Hopkins - The Silence of the LambsDenzel Washington - Malcolm XDaniel Day-Lewis - In The Name of the FatherRobert Duvall - The ApostleRussell Crowe - The Insider
would be my shortlist. voted for irons in the end.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Monday, 19 September 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
he's right though that he shoulda won for dead ringers.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Monday, 19 September 2011 00:20 (twelve years ago) link
jess and I in mindmeld shockah
I want an audio recording of all of Irons' monologues from ROF ("All Sunny ate for dinnah was a sohn-DAY").
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2011 00:21 (twelve years ago) link
Reversal of Fortune[ is one of my favorite courtroom movies, despite a sorely underused Anabella Sciorra (I guess Hollywood had room for only one Italian-American young actress after Marisa Tomei won her Oscar two years later).
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
Anthony Hopkins - The Silence of the LambsSean Penn - Dead Man WalkingEdward Norton Woody
Voted Hopkins
― ᒓᴥᒔ (ENBB), Monday, 19 September 2011 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
Joe Pesci's wasnt the shortest speech though:Hitchcock just said thank you.still waiting for the guy who would say only "thanks" - or- say nothing
― nostormo, Monday, 19 September 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
Of those I've seen, Cage, Day-Lewis, Penn (DMW), Nolte, Harrelson, Washington, Hopkins (SOTL) and Hawthorne. Never saw Reversal of Fortune, but sounds like I should.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Monday, 19 September 2011 10:41 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 19 September 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
whoa!
A pretty good top five.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
Wow--never would have guessed Farnsworth would win.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 September 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't know Eastwood's perf had defenders -- he's at best not bad; prefer him in In the Line of Fire.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
Hopkins working way harder in that movie than Karloff or Rathbone. (in 20 mins' screen time)
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 September 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
last time he worked hard in anything
― The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Monday, 19 September 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
he worked as hard as Nixon did.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
Dick a way more convincing cannibal.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 September 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
Watching Reversal of Fortune again, I'm amazed Oscar went with the black comedy/farcical role.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrxenZhf78I
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 December 2017 02:34 (six years ago) link
Scrolling through this, I feel it necessary to clarify that my second-place Nolte vote was for Affliction, not for the one where he cried a lot.
― clemenza, Sunday, 31 December 2017 02:57 (six years ago) link
I tried settling the matter.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 February 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link