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I just did some online reading about Stills' Monkees audition and had a major misconception corrected (I think--it's the internet). I was always under the impression that he was turned away--you'd even often read that they said no because he actually knew how to play music. I found two different sources, though, that said he in fact landed one of the four parts and had to drop out because of another record contract he'd already signed.

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Stills and Dewey Martin actually played on some Tork/Monkees sessions in '67-'68.

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

Stills and Dewey Martin actually played on some Tork/Monkees sessions in '67-'68.

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

Stills and Dewey Martin actually played on some Tork/Monkees sessions in '67-'68.

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't mean for "because he actually knew how to play music" to come across as sarcasm. I love the Monkees.

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

[x-post]Wow, sorry for the triple post. :-O

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

Stills basically didn't realise that being an amazing guitarist didn't mean he also had to try to be a songwriter

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link

tbh I don't really dig For What It's Worth all that much. it's so over-exposed I can't really find a way into enjoying it.

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

Stop Shakey what's that sound

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

the melodious keening of sasquatch

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:23 (twelve years ago) link

it's so over-exposed I can't really find a way into enjoying it.

if you weren't vice-prez of the Forrest Gump fanclub you probably wouldn't have to hear it so much

In the long run, we will all be cyberpunks (Z S), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link

Agree that "For What It's Worth" is badly overexposed--it, "Purple Haze," and "Somebody to Love" (or "White Rabbit") are the default songs for any footage involving Vietnam or hippies or LBJ. I wish somebody would have the imagination to use something like "Trouble Every Day" or "Omaha" instead.

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

My introduction!

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWTqj5lvkFs

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link

I feel like I oughta know, but who's the host?

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link

the guitar bit on that 2nd track sounds like a direct rip of Jumpin Jack Flash. what's the chronology?

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

"Mr. Soul" predates "Jumpin' Jack Flash" by over a year.

Also, it's weird how certain aspects -- the lead vocals, part of Neil's solo -- are live, and the rest is canned. And I've never heard that little backwards-guitar bit before.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnH--RjdmTc

always loved this song - his version is fine enough, but the isleys (and aretha, for that matter) made it fly.

low content wine racing (stevie), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 07:22 (twelve years ago) link

The Seger version is pretty nice too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Wp-MhcZ6g

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 07:30 (twelve years ago) link

I thought Mr. Soul was an obvious rip of Satisfaction, not Jumpin Jack Flash...?

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i think stills didn't want to do that song because the riff was so similar to satisfaction. the riff is definitely derived from it, but once the song gets going i pretty much forget about it.

tylerw, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

I like a lot Stills' songs for Buffalo Springfield, it's his voice I don't like

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

I'll rep for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbXKEjIApac

Rock and Roll Woman

Lee547 (Lee626), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

love loads of stills' buffalo stuff... 'hot dusty roads' is great.

assume makes an ass out of u and me (but mainly u) (stevie), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

four weeks pass...

here's a comp i made of (mostly) lost songs from 1973-1980. mainly avoiding chrome dreams stuff. http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/11101846032/sad-movies-a-secret-history-of-neil-young
some incredible songs/performances. crazy that it's just scratching the surface of unreleased material from that period. bring on archives II!!!!

tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

ooh!

yr a prince

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks!

Brad C., Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

thanks tyler! i added your blog to my reader at some point but then i stopped checking it, so i am always glad when you repost stuff.

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

cool. there's some key stuff on this comp, some of it more readily available than others, but all in all it's pretty solid. even all the CSNY 74 songs are great. at that point he could write a total throwaway like "hawaiian sunrise" and it would still turn out amazing.

tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

man, I love "Heavy Love" and "Cocaine Eyes."

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

had no idea White Line was such an old song!

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, so many of those ragged glory tunes are old. here's the crazy horse version of white line from 75 or 76
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aaoi1_P8qY8

tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

holy shit this is awesome tyler

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

basically at this point, i want neil to release a 10-disc archives for every year from 1973-1978. he could totally do it.

tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

I think YOU should do it

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

i would if i had access to the tapes! who can give me access?!

tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for posting this! Can't wait to dig in.

crazy that it's just scratching the surface of unreleased material from that period. bring on archives II!!!!

I share your optimism, but we all know Neil well enough to know that "Archives II" ≠ "unreleased material."

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

hee hee, well, yeah, but this next volume really is going to have to include a lot of unreleased stuff. unless neil just hates us all.

tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

i would if i had access to the tapes! who can give me access?!

heh... Neil moved his operation out of the studio my buddy was working at. to a studio around the corner from my house lol.

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

oh man this Home on the Range version

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

Do you think acts like Neil, Prince and the prolific like have it in their wills or whatever just what to do with what's in their vaults after they die?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

I'd bet yes with those particular examples

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Prince especially, since he doesn't have any children

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, prince will definitely be buried with his master tapes.
don't know about neil, i'm sure there's a fairly elaborate plan for all of that.

tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

Stevie Wonder has a clause in his contract that all unreleased material is to be destroyed when he dies.

(all of his unreleased material, that is)

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

for real? crazy.

tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

A ton of Young's albums on his MySpace. Not every track on each album, but most are complete (I think). 125 tracks from Archives, 35 from Decades, and a lot of original albums, so some duplication, but not too much (plus studio vs live presentations of Greendale etc)

dow, Thursday, 6 October 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

okay that news about stevie is pretty depressing

Joe Romeo, Concerned New Yorker (stevie), Friday, 7 October 2011 06:43 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

little (or big, i guess) addendum to that comp of unreleased tunes i made: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=919
Road Of Plenty: The Unreleased Songs (1966-2010 & Live Rarities 1969-1984) [The Godfather Box, 6CD]
one or two things that i missed for my 70s comp -- "homefires" and "lady wingshot", though i think the recording quality on both is pretty dire. also some tunes that were written in the 70s but not performed until much later. "try" is particularly good, i think that's an outtake from "homegrown". they seem to have left out "pushed it over the end" which is a major miss!

tylerw, Thursday, 27 October 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link


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