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and audio output from a midi channel can be routed wherever you like, not just to master or aux channels. still going to record as midi notes in the synth's channel though.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 04:08 (eleven years ago) link

btw putting a s+h lfo in charge of (at least) the filter in operator and running it through a reverse gate + hard saturator is the number one ranking random bleep

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 04:10 (eleven years ago) link

I can probably learn to live with the weird midi over dub thing. Odd thing is that it seems a bit easier to do that punching in audio than midi. I worked with it a few hours tonight and somewhat got grooving with it.

How different are the mixing controls in the new version? I kind of wish that the mixing controls had a bit more throw, so that you could fine tune them in a bit more. I guess they figure many users will want to push it out to a regular audio editor for finishing and they want to keep it nice clean and German looking.

I like mixing audio on a PC as you get WAY more head room than on the onboard mixing board on my recorders, but I have not gotten to the point where I like tracking to one. I've got a Tascam hard disc record that I have had for a few years and I had an Akai before that one (RIP). I've got quite a few sequences worked up on the MPC, so I am going to work on slaving it up to the PC. Sometimes that stuff is a breeze, sometimes it is a pain in the ass. I figure that I will have to get Ableton to be the master and the MPC slaved up. I'm hoping I can get them to synch pretty tight, as it would be pretty dope to be able to then sequence loops in Ableton on top of some full drum sequences.

earlnash, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 08:12 (eleven years ago) link

If you have loops or sequences on the MPC that you want to throw into ableton I'd just record it as audio and fuck around with the rest in the software. No point in worrying about syncing with ableton unless you're determined to use the MPC on stage in tandem with a laptop (imho)

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 08:19 (eleven years ago) link

I'm starting to get over the hump working with Ableton. I think the hardest thing on using sequencers is getting to the point where you can forget about the science and just play the thing. Cool thing is that I am actually starting to be able to do some of the stuff with this software that I wanted to be able to do with Acid like way back in version 1 or 2 ten years ago. I really dig being able to just copy and paste sections around at will and not have the thing bog down like a hog in heat.

I still haven't gotten around to trying to synch up my complete midi tracks yet. I just don't want to get into cutting up a bunch of loops, at least not yet. I've got probably a good dozen full drum sequences rock band songs I want to get recorded out, as I spent quite a bit of time putting them together. After I get those recorded into Live on the laptop, I might start working on trying to use the MPC as a loop box.

My goal for this next year is to actually finish something, put up a website and start posting some music. I've got tracks and tracks of raw demos on three different computers from the past few years. I've mostly working more on learning to play guitar over the past few years.

What is funny is that I was doing a google search on a band name I used for some electronic music ten years ago and found the old CD I had finished and posted on the old MP3.com in some guys web network shared folder. Who had it and where they were at...I have no idea, but I thought it was pretty hilarious.

earlnash, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 06:00 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah, one thing I found is that some of the 'synth' effects in the rack on Ableton sound really killer on lead guitar. I liked them better than some of the stuff in the 'guitar' effects rack.

earlnash, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 06:02 (eleven years ago) link

one of the unheralded awesomenesses of live is the fx stacking and racking capabilities - just with the basic version you get pretty much every studio effect other than a vocoder, and it allows you to throw them into a chain any way you choose, to frequently incredible results. I love being able to line up two or three fx in a single channel then route that channel's output into an aux channel with its own chain of fx, which is then mixed into a set of fx on the master output. POSSIBIBIBILITIES

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 07:07 (eleven years ago) link

too many possibilities is one reason i'm scared of live

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

the first thing I did was blow away most of the fx presets and start rolling my own so I had presets I could live with for various things, especially particular effects chains. I generally set the rules for myself right when I start working - I've had the too many possibilities/where to begin problem with other audio software suites and production tools but not Live.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

has anyone used Ableton Live Intro and know whether it's worth 99 bucks? from the review on Turntable Lab it seems like it is worth it, the stuff that gets left out compared to the full version seems pretty pr0 and I don't think I would miss it as a new user. (I've never tried any kind of Ableton but the lower price makes me intrigued. For DJing I got Traktor Pro a couple months ago and like it.)

dmr, Thursday, 16 June 2011 00:37 (nine years ago) link

the lighter version of Traktor leaves out something I found totally necessary (ability to record a mix onto the same computer that you're mixing on) so that's why I wanted to check to see if Intro is missing some essential function ...

dmr, Thursday, 16 June 2011 00:40 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

i got live 8 a few days ago but haven't done much with it yet besides fiddle around with drum sounds and arpeggiators. any general tips and tricks for getting started?

emo mcgee vs ricky hitler (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:25 (eight years ago) link

fiddle round with arpeggiators some more

detune two oscillators...than what (electricsound), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:27 (eight years ago) link

sounds good, it is pretty satisfying.

emo mcgee vs ricky hitler (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:34 (eight years ago) link

slice loop to MIDI.

then arpegiate the slices.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 23 August 2012 15:59 (eight years ago) link

i did that with a stretch from a rainbow and curved air and it turned it into happy hardcore.

tubular, mondo, gnabry (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 30 August 2012 15:29 (eight years ago) link

seven months pass...

any1 got live 9, how is it

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 11 April 2013 16:35 (seven years ago) link

convert drums to midi

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 11 April 2013 16:54 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...
two months pass...

February the 6th! I was expecting it to be later than that.

https://www.ableton.com/en/blog/live-10-coming-february-6/

Doesn't look like a massive change from 9 but i'm not sure one was needed.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 12:14 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3UlKCqtZrc

am0n, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:00 (two years ago) link

10 has more airhorns

am0n, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:01 (two years ago) link

A+

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:04 (two years ago) link

It's got CPU issues making it unusable compared to 9 on my aging system (stolen, but I doubt they inserted cpu-related problems as an anti-piracy measure)

Dan I., Monday, 12 February 2018 01:18 (two years ago) link

https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=229163

I get crackling with basically nothing playing (e.g. 4/4 kick samples), and they don't go away until buffer size is bumped up high enough that you can't even really use the thing.

Dan I., Monday, 12 February 2018 01:22 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

no really, what's the best controller if what I basically want is the interface from the Yamaha RS-7000

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 19:31 (two years ago) link

I'm lazy and shitty at searching

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 19:32 (two years ago) link

I don't really know because I'm an inveterate mouse user, but maybe one of those Arturia Beatsteps?

http://https%3A//medias.arturia.net/images/products/beatstep-pro-black/beatstep-pro-black-image.png

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 19:37 (two years ago) link

I think I prefer the look of this

http://www.korg.com/us/products/computergear/nanokey_studio/

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 19:59 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I'm planning to upgrade from my cheap laptop to a proper desktop PC to make Ableton a bit easier to use but there seems to be a load of people online saying that their 8/16GB, 3.8ghz, hexacore, I7, etc, machines still struggle massively with polyphony in Operator. How much of an issue is CPU load with a relatively decent PC spec now?

ShariVari, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 12:38 (one year ago) link

nothing helpful to add but that is discouraging

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:52 (one year ago) link

back to fruity loops

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:52 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209073129-Enabling-Audio-over-USB-in-iOS-devices

old news but news to me! experiments begin tomorrow

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 02:16 (eight months ago) link

so for the track I hope to make for the ILX quarantine comp I'm running Live 10 Suite on my dinky MacBook Air I bought for school just about two years ago and with only 4 MIDI channels + barely any FX it's already pushing 25% CPU load. This is going to get sporty I think

El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 01:30 (eight months ago) link

Freeze tracks whenever possible

Dan I., Monday, 23 March 2020 01:38 (eight months ago) link

What are you using the midi channels for? what vst do you have loaded, or...

Tib, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 10:04 (eight months ago) link

are you working completely in the box? or do you have gear attached?

Tib, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 10:53 (eight months ago) link

Completely in the box

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 11:45 (eight months ago) link

I’m using the same Mac mini that I’ve been using since 2009 running logic pro seven. I did get a new midi controller though.

majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Thursday, 26 March 2020 12:20 (eight months ago) link

for as long as I’ve been doing this I’ve become pretty decent at mixing inside the box except when it comes to vocals. I think because I just barely ever do it but I’ve never really mastered it or even come close.

majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Thursday, 26 March 2020 12:21 (eight months ago) link

How many goddam tracks does anyone need anyway?
(caveat I have no idea what Tombot's music is like, maybe you need 10 tracks just for the drums)

Tib, Monday, 30 March 2020 07:08 (eight months ago) link

choose vst's or patches carefully (some of those wavetable patches are heavy on my cpu) , draw automation instead of twiddling the knob (or at least redraw the curves to mirror the twiddling to get rid of a lot of whatever those little points on the curve are called), freeze as Dan said.

or just "Free-form plague poetry over a VCS3 freakout" as per suggestion in ilm thread.

Tib, Monday, 30 March 2020 07:15 (eight months ago) link

seven months pass...

Live 11 is coming in Q1 2021.

The additions look useful but not enormously transformative. Better CPU performance would be good though.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 16:53 (three weeks ago) link

Comping is very welcome, have been waiting for that for years. Spectral fx looks fun but nothing I haven't got elsewhere. Probability means I will probably never use Renoise again as thats pretty much the main reason I occasionally use it. The macro stuff looks awesome, especially no longer having to piss around with ClyphX scripts and commands.

All in all, looking forward to complaining for a few months then not being able to resist dropping £150 on an upgrade of Suite (again)

(the one with 3 L's) (Willl), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:22 (three weeks ago) link

I’d love lower latency from the software instruments.

DJI, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 19:26 (three weeks ago) link


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