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Are you going to the Pelican/Torche show on Friday? </derail>

aldo, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

naw im skint. Pelican disown the 1st ep now.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

It's in Bristol so I'm guessing he meant me, Kerr. I could probably blag it but don't want to be a dick to the promoters. Don't want to pay £12.50 or whatever it is basically to see Torche either, though. Pelican disown the 1st ep now - ah fuck 'em then... do you mean literally disown? I mean quality is in the eye of the beholder but it's hardly like a Pantera type deal is it

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Ahh, I thought he meant the Glasgow date was friday.

Yeah as far as i know they refuse to play anything from it and I read somewhere they did say they had disowned it as they thought its was the worst stuff they had made, they genuinely do not like it!.
When it really is their best release!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Tch. Pretty sure we've had threads about bands who pull this sort of nonsense

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Aye, sorry, meant DJM. I suppose the cash in is less of a deal for me since I'm not having to factor in Cardiff travel as well, plus I'm also looking at it to possibly free up feeling the need to HAVE to see Torche at ATP in case of clashes.

Pelican have maybe got worse with each release, really. Three's stuff to like on all the records, I guess, but it's diminishing returns.

Totally aside from this, because it doesn't fit into the 'catchy' stuff we've been discussing, but I still think the Pyramids album is still the best thing HH have put out this year.

aldo, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, bigger Pelican nonsense is surely going through a repress/repackage/limited remaster process for all their previous albums when it's not like they've sold out or particularly need it.

aldo, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, this Pyramids stuff is beautiful. Are these people ex-Mare? Similar haunting vocals...

Savannah Smiles, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

mare did one additional track for a melvins tribute/cover thingy that is not on that ep - it's called 'nightgoat'. also very much worth searching out. not sure about the pyramids thing but the drummer from mare (caleb collins) has joined a band called Circle Takes the Square (according to the bio on last.fm)

6335, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 05:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i caught torche's last song when they opened up for boris, it was pretty epic. was bummed that i missed their set, especially when boris ended up being super cheesy

6335, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 05:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Torshe were SERIOUSLY good tonight, Pelican very meh in comparison.

Maybe the highlight of the evening though was watching all of The Heads and Gonga playing air guitar to Sweet Home Alabama.

aldo, Friday, 19 September 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Aldo where do you live? I thought you were in edinburgh

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 19 September 2008 23:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Bristol. Haven't been in Edinburgh for over 10 years.

aldo, Saturday, 20 September 2008 00:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh right.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 September 2008 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link

"Any opinions on Old Man Gloom, Pelican, Scissorfight, or Trees?

Oh Trees are not actually on Hydra Head (though they sound like they could be). Imagine Khanate without the hooks. Yes, brutal...

Trees are on Crucial Blast (cd) and 20 Buck Spin (lp).

Nate Carson, Saturday, 20 September 2008 00:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I got the lp, awesome stuff. Hydrahead are maybe selling it via distro.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 September 2008 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link

"Motown" from the Harvey Milk almost sounds like Weezer

HOOS em out to your friends and shit (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 20 September 2008 01:15 (fifteen years ago) link

"Motown" from the Harvey Milk almost sounds like Weezer

Which is alright by me! I've been soaking all this stuff up bigtime this week. Loving Torche (this seems to be the group in this lot with legitimate crossover potential - that "Grenades" song is a total hit), Craw (which is unique in that there's a definite twisted sense of humor in there), and this Pyramids shit is crazy - beautiful ambient stuff with cheap synthesized blast beats. Just totally unique.

The Mare e.p. is definitely the highlight, though. It's perfect.

Also got the Botch and Dillinger Escape Plan and Jesu but haven't played them yet.

Thanks a lot for all the recommendations!!!

Savannah Smiles, Saturday, 20 September 2008 02:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Torshe were SERIOUSLY good tonight, Pelican very meh in comparison.

Maybe the highlight of the evening though was watching all of The Heads and Gonga playing air guitar to Sweet Home Alabama.

― aldo, Friday, September 19, 2008 11:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Hee hee. That sounds cuet. Could have got off my arse and gone to Bristol tonight but didn't have any desire to leave the house really (he typed for the second time in ten minutes) but will wait to bug out to Torche at ATP

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 20 September 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link

iTunes didn't have Craw

I'm pretty sure Craw's own website has all of their records for free download (even the Hydrahead one, 'Bodies for Strontium 90').

Also, where's the love for Cattle Press? 'Hordes to Abolish the Divine' is an awesome album. Fits right in with 'We Are the Romans' and 'Until Your Heart Stops' in a '1999 was an awesome year for metal, why didn't I realise it at the time?' sorta way.

MacDara, Saturday, 20 September 2008 09:03 (fifteen years ago) link

And yes, in my experience Torche blows everyone they play with off the stage.

HOOS em out to your friends and shit (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Botch, DEP, Isis and Pelican - I had a phase of listening to too much of this stuff to the point where it began to bore me.

Pelican have indeed plummeted.

Seems like I need to hear Torche?

Fer Ark, Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm hearing Torche on Youtube now, and liking it.

Soukesian, Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Pyramids seconded, really fun and weird music.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 20 September 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Dude in Torche seriously looks like Jack Black though.

aldo, Saturday, 20 September 2008 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, where's the love for Cattle Press?

cattle press peaked with their first song ("celebration of wounds"). totally sludgy braindead hammering. i didn't like their hydrahead release at all.

REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 20 September 2008 11:28 (fifteen years ago) link

You should give it another listen. There's nothing braindead about it at all: it's jammed with kickass grooves among the slowed-down-grindcore sludge.

MacDara, Saturday, 20 September 2008 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link

uh, braindead was a compliment. seriously, i love that song, it's plodding in the best possible way. the album suffered from NOT being braindead, it just didn't do it for me. i'd give it another listen but i realized i sold it.

REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 20 September 2008 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Apologies for misreading your comment, my fault entirely. But on the main point, it really is worth another shot.

MacDara, Saturday, 20 September 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Well kids - went out and actually bought Torche's 'Neanderthal'- £12-oo from HMV.

Was it worth it?

Seriously, absolutely YES.

This is something different.

Drop D, stepped down low - but with real melody, and not just a pummelling onslaught. I'll be lazy but there's a bit of MBV in there too, for want of a better description

Excited to play this again, but the missus will hate, so save it for laters

Fer Ark, Saturday, 20 September 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

torche sounds like 90s alt rock to me, muddy and directionless and halfheartedly thunderous.

adam, Saturday, 20 September 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry hipsters -'Meanderthal' is what I bought

Fer Ark, Saturday, 20 September 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

and 20s alt rock is...?

Fer Ark, Saturday, 20 September 2008 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link

get the 1st album, its even better, the original mix version is better than the remixed one IMO so try get that.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 September 2008 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i've kind of prematurely ejaculated. Again.

Just been listening to it whilst cutting my hedge ( How HC RNR is that?)and it doesn't sound quite the same album.

Better get my slippers on now my hedge is done - crank up the (nonHash) pipe and listen to it again. Tis Satdee night after all

Fer Ark, Saturday, 20 September 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link


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