Wilco - The Whole Love

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Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 3 September 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

Opening song sounds like 'I'm a redneck and I'm afraid of robots'

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 3 September 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

I like this. Didn't think I'd get to say that about another Wilco record.

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

Agreed. This is a good album.

Benjamin-, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

It's a good album but it didn't make me feel like buying it. Hell, it's only a first listen. Let's see.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, good point. I just finished my first listen. Perhaps I'm just pleased that I don't hate it. I'll give it another shot tonight.

Benjamin-, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

Stream isn't working for me, just keeps saying "Loading Tracks", have tried about four times and it just sits there.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

Wilco doesn't like you

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

Its not just me, tons of people now complaining on their Facebook page. Guessing it got overloaded?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

Yep, they just posted a message on Facebook "Server overloaded - thanks for your patience - we'll get it back up."

Not a big deal, just kind of amazes me that in 2011 people still really don't have a handle on how to anticipate the traffic a big announcement or whatever will bring.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

I'm listening to it fine here in the 3rd World.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

glenn kotche and john stirratt are definitely the heroes of this record. the most interesting stuff here is rhythmic.

also tweedy seems to be writing hooks again.

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

I dig the pedal steel in Black Moon

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

Seems to be working now, I really like this. Although I haven't been as down on the last couple records as most of you guys seems to have been. The last one was definitely the worst yet, but still a handful of salvageable tunes. Very encouraging first listen.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 3 September 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

Well, it crashed before I got to hear the final four songs, but I really liked what I heard!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 3 September 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

i'm in the middle of listening to this now -- it might end up being their best studio record in seven years

markers, Saturday, 3 September 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

it's probably more interesting than the last two, at least

markers, Saturday, 3 September 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not listening on headphones, but i probably should be -- there are details here and there

markers, Saturday, 3 September 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

this isn't prime wilco (a ghost is born, yankee hotel foxtrot, and summerteeth) good though

markers, Saturday, 3 September 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

first few songs are shockingly great.

i don't hear more "hooks." i hear a tougher, more free-spirited, more confident rock record.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 September 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, "art of almost" is their best opener since "at least that's what you said"

markers, Saturday, 3 September 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

i don't really see this as a record filled with hooks either

markers, Saturday, 3 September 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

the last record where that was the point was, like, summer teeth

markers, Saturday, 3 September 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

fuckin autocorrect, summerteeth

markers, Saturday, 3 September 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

as a record filled with hooks either

eh, my complaint with the post jay bennett records is that tweedy seemed to half-write the songs, subtracting the, you know, relatively rewarding choruses that are littered througout being there summerteeth and even yankee hotel foxtrot. for instance: wilco (the album) was a lot like summerteeth but minus all of the sharp songwriting, and this new one seems to regain some of that sharpness, to my ears

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Saturday, 3 September 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

don't know why i quoted half of your sentence there markers; it is saturday

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Saturday, 3 September 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

this isn't prime wilco (a ghost is born, yankee hotel foxtrot, and summerteeth) good though

― markers, Saturday, September 3, 2011 9:46 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

otm... BUT this is fab Wilco after the last two dire albums. Feel like my Wilco is slowly returning to form! Yay!

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 3 September 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

I like this a lot, but I liked the last two, too. I guess this is a more overt return to "weird" form who didn't recognize that the lack of weirdness of the last two was sort of weird in and of itself. But, yeah, the band's boutique "weird" pedal is clearly back from the shop.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 September 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

It doesn't sound obliquely "good because it's weird" to me at all, rather that the band is actually trying again, looking for new ways, treading new paths.. The last two Wilco records were numbingly dull for me, because every notion of experimentation seemed off limits. Whereas I loved the three records before them just because they mixed the known with the unknown, with such surprisingly great results. Maybe I did miss them pushing the "weird" pedal, but it sounds like they are unified and willing to look for new sounds again, instead of making dull americana records like the last two. I've long given up on Wilco making another YHF of 'Ghost', but this is definitely closer to the two than the last two albums they churned out.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 3 September 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

sky blue sky tried, and i thought it succeeded. i would have been happy if it ushered in a new era of tuneful west-coast soft-rock. but there were dull spots on it. this seems more confident and swaggering and, yeah, weird.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 September 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

Honestly, I think those last two were pretty important artistic steps, at least in terms of Tweedy learning how to write a clearer, more straight-forward way, post-Bennett, post-rehab and post nonsense "Ghost" lyrics. Which is why I consider them experimental records, at least in the context of Wilco. They were trying something different, which in their case meant trying something that wasn't trying so hard to be different. I talked to Tweedy once or twice over the past few years about how funny it was that not including 20 minute drones or strange sounds or freakouts was the band's first divisive, controversial move.

Anyway, what really sold it to me was the band live, when none of the stuff from the last two records seemed the least bit boring or out of place.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 September 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

good, but Tweedy's songwriting still isn't so great since Ghost Is Born, for most of the tracks.

nostormo, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:15 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTqEB0MyGdY

markers, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

Tweedy is such a horrible singer now. He can keep his guitar but just step away from the mic please.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno he seems about the same to me

that song is pretty nice

like the end jam out a lot

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

owww my earrrs

rip van wanko, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

good point, rip

markers, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

too bad most of the tracks arent as good as Born Alone

nostormo, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3PRmu0tr6k&feature=player_embedded#!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

he was quite funny the 2 times i saw them

nostormo, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

Tweedy is such a horrible singer now. He can keep his guitar but just step away from the mic please.

― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 7, 2011 11:44 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Yeah, is it just me or are his vocals weak as fuck on this record? It sounds like his lungs are hooked up to a breathing machine.

"I know its hard to hear but I'm a Realest." (rennavate), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

This guy has sung like a dead cat since 2002, but now it's metastazized.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

I know most of you guys have no idea who is Alceu Valença but I was struck by the similarity between ‘One Sunday Morning (Song for Jane Smiley’s Boyfriend)’ and Valença's'Anunciação'.

By the way, Alceu Valença >>>>>> Wilco

http://www.mixcloud.com/shin-oliva-suzuki/alceu-tweedy/#utm_source=widget&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=flash_links

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Sunday, 11 September 2011 11:43 (twelve years ago) link

I'm happily surprised by this--high quality, nice songwriting, not afraid of a little more adventurous production. Much better than anything I've heard since 'Yankee Hotel Foxtrot'. Not as much of a surprise as Portishead's '3' or Flaming Lips' 'Embryonic,' but very good. Loved this band circa 'Being There,' and enjoyed watching their progress over the next two albums. But the "dad rock" dismissal seemed mostly accurate after that--a krautrock jam or two notwithstanding.

As for the similarity between that track and the Alceu--got to imagine that's a coincidence, as the chord progression and arpeggios aren't exactly rocket science in either case. It's a very natural set up and resolution. Gotta say, the production values alone give a major edge to the Wilco approach, there.

Soundslike, Sunday, 11 September 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

The four songs I like on this are really awesome. Absolutely despise the Radioheadishness of the first track and the Wilco: The Musical-sounding "Capitol City." Last song is their "I Dream A Highway" - beautiful. Also, tracks 5-7.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

after the first listen i am positively surprised. the experimentalish opener is very promising, the album cannot hold that level (of abstraction) but it is still pretty solid. it could have been shorter though. the last song is nice to fall asleep to. or to wake up to.

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 19 September 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

listening now. i've always been slightly annoyed when people call wilco the "american radiohead" -- did not seem otm to me -- but uhh this first song does sound quite a bit like radiohead.

tylerw, Monday, 19 September 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

sounds ok though!

tylerw, Monday, 19 September 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

clien freakout is cool. i guess this is their way of answering people who complained that they haven't let nels wail on record yet.

tylerw, Monday, 19 September 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

*cline* i mean

tylerw, Monday, 19 September 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link


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