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yeah "ocean girl" is good. i like midnight on the bay. prefer long may you run on bootlegs / live albums.
stills' songs are pretty bad.

tylerw, Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

that's funny, i just bought stills-young the other day as well. still haven't had time to listen to it, but it was only a few bucks. looking forward to hearing "ocean rain", though...i assumed that only "long may you run" was any good!

In the long run, we will all be cyberpunks (Z S), Saturday, 3 September 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link

"ocean girl", sorry. been listening to way too much echo recently

In the long run, we will all be cyberpunks (Z S), Saturday, 3 September 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link

Two guys within a matter of days--Stills is on the phone to Neil as we speak. "Ocean Girl" always felt like a Zuma song to me; don't know if it was ever slated for that originally. I wonder if Neil has enough girl songs for a compilation: "Ocean Girl," "Cinnamon Girl," "Country Girl," "Stupid Girl"...

clemenza, Saturday, 3 September 2011 02:37 (twelve years ago) link

ok, "make love to you" may be the single worst song that I've ever heard

In the long run, we will all be cyberpunks (Z S), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

Stills brings the goods always

Euler, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Actually enjoyed this a bit. I bet Warners wished at the time Neil could have delivered an album full of the the material he put out here--perhaps the closest he came to mellow El Lay studio rock. "Let It Shine" sounds like a Zuma outtake with industrial polish applied.

As for the Stills stuff, umm, at least they aren't as bad as that singles bar song song from CSN the next year, with the lines about "she's looking at your crotch". Really didn't need to know about Stills' late-70s sex life. Musically, the last song ("Guardian Angel") remended me alot of Steely Dan.

The Neil stuff makes for a nice EP. I wonder what if any of this material will make the cut for Archives II: Ditch Boogaloo. Meanwhile, I need to dig up my copies of the tour boots i got from Tyler's blog.

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

yes it's gonna take all night

In the long run, we will all be cyberpunks (Z S), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

"...to get my flabby coke dick semi-erect."

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

hee hee.
kind of coming around on A Treasure -- a fun listen for sure. The real "treasures" are "Southern Pacific" and "Grey Riders". Excellent band sound, great guitar from Neil. I also think the Toyota song is worth a chuckle or two -- second verse begins with the lines "Another thing that's buggin' me!" Haha. Old Man Neil writes a letter to the editor.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

I wonder if Neil has enough girl songs for a compilation: "Ocean Girl," "Cinnamon Girl," "Country Girl," "Stupid Girl"...

Do Inca/Aztec songs on the side 2

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

I wonder if Neil has enough girl songs for a compilation: "Ocean Girl," "Cinnamon Girl," "Country Girl," "Stupid Girl"...

Do Inca/Aztec songs on the side 2

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

that makes a lot of sense actually

I have that Stills/Young album on vinyl and let me just say it's one of the few times when I wish I had it digitally instead, Still's songs are so execrable

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

it's like him and Neil's songs are from different planets

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, one dude hitting career peaks (maybe not w/ the songs here, but just in general) and the other bottoming out. though i guess stills had plenty more bottoming out to do.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

OH MY GOD

is that stills?!

In the long run, we will all be cyberpunks (Z S), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

$100 if anyone can find a live video of modern day stills performing "Make Love To You"

In the long run, we will all be cyberpunks (Z S), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

yes that is steven stills

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

he kinda makes me think of an aged sasquatch

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

I can't think of a single Stills song that's better than okay.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

yikes that "make love to you" song is awful

velvet underground - reloaded (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

"Black Coral" has a good Stills piano part but, wow, I have no idea what he's trying to do with his vocal melody -- or if he's got one!

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

I can't think of a single Stills song that's better than okay.

^^^

Nash has the Hollies stuff, Crosby has the Byrds + "If I Could Only Remember My Name", Neil's obviously got tons of great songs... Stills has nothing

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

i like about half of manassas a lot

velvet underground - reloaded (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

stills has a decent run going from springfield/csny/manassas.
he's got this too, which is pretty sweet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWkMMXgQohc

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

that's a cover!

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

as I'm sure you know

I've never heard the Manassas record

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

Appropriately, it's named after one of the bloodiest of Civil War battles.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

xp yeah it's a cover, but it shows off how good a guitarist he could be.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

poor steven stills looks like this lil fella in a hawaiian shirt

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/caveman.jpg

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

I can't think of a single Stills song that's better than okay.

Not sure if this means just solo, but if not, to me there are a bunch of great ones (some I already named on a Buffalo Springfield thread): "Go and Say Goodbye," "Hung Upside Down," "Rock & Roll Woman," "Four Days Gone," "Special Care," "Uno Mundo," "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes," "Everybody I Love You" (the last was co-written with Neil; everything else was his alone). I think he was a really talented guy who a) is easy to knock today because he wasn't Neil, and because he got sillier and sillier as he got older, and b) seemed to have gotten a little messed up because he also realized he wasn't as good as Neil.

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

i'm a Stills hater for the most part, but dudes, "FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH"

In the long run, we will all be cyberpunks (Z S), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

A fair assessment. I don't know the BS stuff as well as I should.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

He also auditioned for the Monkees, so he gets many bonus story-telling points. Sorry--can't believe I forgot "For What It's Worth."

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

Listened to After The Goldrush again today. It ruled.

Also heard a live solo version of "Ohio" w/o those nails on chalkboard CSN harmonies and it was such an improvement.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

I can listen to "For What It's Worth" thanks to (a) The Muppets (b) Public Enemy's interpolation

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

I just did some online reading about Stills' Monkees audition and had a major misconception corrected (I think--it's the internet). I was always under the impression that he was turned away--you'd even often read that they said no because he actually knew how to play music. I found two different sources, though, that said he in fact landed one of the four parts and had to drop out because of another record contract he'd already signed.

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Stills and Dewey Martin actually played on some Tork/Monkees sessions in '67-'68.

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

Stills and Dewey Martin actually played on some Tork/Monkees sessions in '67-'68.

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

Stills and Dewey Martin actually played on some Tork/Monkees sessions in '67-'68.

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't mean for "because he actually knew how to play music" to come across as sarcasm. I love the Monkees.

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

[x-post]Wow, sorry for the triple post. :-O

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

Stills basically didn't realise that being an amazing guitarist didn't mean he also had to try to be a songwriter

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link

tbh I don't really dig For What It's Worth all that much. it's so over-exposed I can't really find a way into enjoying it.

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

Stop Shakey what's that sound

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

the melodious keening of sasquatch

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:23 (twelve years ago) link


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