http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6305972761.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg4. Aguirre: The Wrath of GodWerner Herzog, 1973Points: 262Total Votes: 19 First Place Votes: 1Jed_: I just saw Aguirre and it's insane. watching it made me hate all those widescreen pretty-beautiful epics that are ten a penny. it's so fucking real-looking. anthony minghella please watch a Herzong film then give up or kill yourself. obviously Aguirre is astonishing to look at but makes you realise, to an extent, that most films are just cinematography and lightning with actual direction and vision and depth waaaaaaay down the list. films are too beautiful now. all surface no feeling.Jeff-PTTL: Where to begin? I find it almost impossible to talk about my favorite film of all time. The opening shot just kills me everytime, it's the start of a constant barrage of goosebumps that don't end untill Kinski is surrounded by monkeys.
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 11 September 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007Y08MY.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg3. The Godfather, Part IIFrancis Ford Coppola, 1974Points: 285Total Votes: 19 First Place Votes: 2Pete Scholtes: The Fredo drama and the Cuban sequences redeem the lackluster killings, the romanticized De Niro Corleone, and one very shaky plot point: What exactly is Fredo's complicity in the attempt on Michael's life? Did he tell his enemies what bedroom Michael was sleeping in? Open the gate to let the gunmen in? What?Jimmy the Mod: overlong but an appropriate end to the saga, III notwithsanding.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6304907729.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg2. Annie HallWoody Allen, 1977Points: 316Total Votes: 22 First Place Votes: 3Pete Scholtes: I don't even want to use the phrase "romantic comedy." This is best comedy about love that I can think of. How did Allen pull it off? By remembering a great relationship. By establishing right off that his view of his life is skewed. By recognizing his foibles (he's bigoted, pseudo-intellectual, snobbish, schtick-prone, mildly self-hating, and roundly and passively hostile). By still making you care about him, and by making his great love stand in for all relationships remembered with fondness. By going about it all with the playfulness of a filmmaker just discovering what he can do, and finding he's willing to try anything.Jimmy the Mod: makes New York the most romantic place in the world, Diane Keaton an oddball ideal, and proves that Los Angeles really DOESN'T have anything going for it. Woody never got better.Jedidiah: Woody Allen's greatest moment. He has been both funnier and more poignant, but never in the same film
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0767830555.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.gif1. Taxi DriverMartin Scorsese, 1976Points: 317Total Votes: 22 First Place Votes: 1Pete Scholtes: It's all about the long stare into that glass of Alcaseltzer.DG: Right at the end, after Travis drops Cybil Shephard's character off, there's this odd moment where he catches himself in the mirror, and well, it's just odd. I've always taken it to mean everything from him being dumped up till then is just some bizarre power fantasy, which would explain how he gets off scot-free for the shootings. If this is correct, this would make the second half just a 'dream', and therefore a bit of a GCSE drama project ending - and therefore dud. But I could be wrong...Jonathan: The strange ending only adds to it's uniqueness. Robert de Niro, Jodie Foster, Harvey Keitel and a sick cameo from Scorcese himself. What more could a boy want?Michael G Breece: 'Taxi Driver': earnest portrayal (basically, based on the writer Schrader himself - is why it is earnest) of a loser/loner type in America. Sure, it goes far overboard at the end with the "cool anarchist mohawk" bullshit and the shoot-em-ups and all that jazz, but...it's a Hollywood type of thing. It should've been left to a more earnest ending, fitting to the realistic loner/loser portrayal built-up. In reality, that character (a frayed coward at hear) would have just stayed in his crappy little apartment more as he spent the rest of his time driving the taxi. Nothing less/nothing more than that, basically. Until some other little "hottie" turned his eye, then it would all go round and round again.Joe: Actually, one of my favorite little moments in the movie is when the dispatcher asks Travis: "Education?" and Travis responds blankly, "Oh...some...here and there...", and then it cuts back to the dispatcher's reaction.
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 11 September 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― don't be jerk, this is china (FE7), Sunday, 11 September 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Sunday, 11 September 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link
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― foxy boxer (stevie), Sunday, 11 September 2005 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Who's doing the '60s?
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 11 September 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
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The Conversation is the Garret Anderson of '70s films: most overrated"underrated."
How did News From Home sneak in there? I don't think I've even read about it.
Apocalypse Now would have a shot at being one of the 5 best films of the decade if Coppola cut it down to a short about Kilgore and the Air Cavalry titled "Charlie Don't Surf."
>morbius = pwnd<
Happily, I am still Luddite enough to have no fuckin idea what that means.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 September 2005 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Monday, 12 September 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Monday, 12 September 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link
I was Gene Hackman from The Conversation a few years ago for Halloween, so I like it enough for that.
But I rented it a few days ago and my problem with it (once again) is that it just doesn't make sense (spoilers to follow): So the Harrison Ford character hired Hackman to record a conversation Ford knew was going to happen, and which the murderers knew was going to be overheard? Why not just record the conversation without Hackman?
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 12 September 2005 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link
I love the film so much, and get so caught up in it, I've never even stopped to ponder the logic. I guess I've always assumed that while Hackman is technically hired by Ford, it's with Duvall's knowledge; we hear Duvall say "You want it to be true" to Ford, which I take to mean that Ford initiated Hackman's hiring as a way to prove to Duvall that there's a plot against him, that Duvall approved the project, and that now they're sitting around weighing the evidence. I don't think Cindy Williams and Frederic Forrest were aware they were being taped. That would make Ford the really shadowy and unknowable figure--aligned with Duvall at the beginning, but keeping quiet and keeping his own proximity to the company's seat of power intact when the plot to kill the emperor succeeds and power is transferred.
I don't know, maybe that's wrong. But with The Conversation so steeped in the Watergate moment (accidentally; it's well known that Coppola wrote the script years earlier), I think a little mystery concerning the film's internal logic works well. The real-life parallel is why Nixon never burned the tapes, something that continues to puzzle everyone.
― Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Monday, 12 September 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 12 September 2005 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link
You mean "Gredo-shoots-first," right? On a related note, I also notice that the Jaws swimmer's breasts are less visible on the DVD art than they were in the original 1975 poster. These things matter.
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 12 September 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
I seem to remember Gene Wilder regreting that he made the film because it was "anti-child," but can't place the source...
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 12 September 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link
But then, you know, "Looney Toons" is pretty fucked up, moralitywise, too (how many times does Bugs torture his foes in a manner of total overkill that isn't at all justified by the small infraction that they've made? That's without mentioning the times when it's entirely unprovoked), and I wouldn't want that erased from my childhood.
"Taxi Driver" is a good movie.
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Of course, I could have voted.
/opening Netflix queue
― Lurky McLurk, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link
They sound like utterly unremarkable films that have passed into greatness on qualities I can't ascertain.
Should I just break down and watch them?
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 03:58 (eighteen years ago) link
actually, bugs usually doesn't go after ppl without a good reason (i.e. they're trying to shoot him or dig up his home or posting "rabbit season" signs all over the place). chuck jones talked about this in his autobiography, how he wanted bugs to be more sympathetic/interesting than, say, woody woodpecker. of course, daffy's another story...
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link
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― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 09:01 (eighteen years ago) link
"My coat! My lucky coat!"
"This pope has powerful enemies!"
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 09:10 (eighteen years ago) link
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― jedidiah (jedidiah), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link
OK, who was it who liked The Shout (96b)? It's showing at Lincoln Center at 4pm. Dave Kehr:
An airy allegory (from a Robert Graves story) held to earth by some scathing sexual passion. Alan Bates is the traveling madman who holds a composer (John Hurt) and his wife (Susannah York) in thrall. Sexuality triumphs over civilization through a series of small betrayals, each registered with appalling, pinpoint accuracy by Jerzy Skolimowski's camera. Though Skolimowski had backed off from his formal ambitions somewhat (he once seemed a real rival to Godard), this 1978 feature is shrewd, imaginative moviemaking, a trance thriller that beats Peter Weir on his own turf.
― Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
^this is like the most noize board movie ever (maybe crossed w/ I LOVE CRICKET: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX)
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 9 April 2011 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I used to disagree with Dr. Morbius under my actual name; now I disagree with him under a fabricated one. The world has changed so much.
― clemenza, Saturday, 9 April 2011 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link
has anyone seen Chilly Scenes of Winter ('79) by Joan Micklin Silver, aka Head Over Heels?
http://www.ifccenter.com/films/chilly-scenes-of-winter/
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 21:16 (nine years ago) link
A friend was telling me about this book--not sure if I knew about it or not.
https://academic.macmillan.com/academictrade/9781632868183/openingwednesdayatatheaterordriveinnearyou
Will definitely try to track down a copy at a decent price.
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link
I was Gene Hackman from The Conversation a few years ago for Halloween, so I like it enough for that.― Pete Scholtes, Monday, September 12,
Still the funniest Halloween costume I've ever heard of.
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link