the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

are you speaking of negative space?

I prefer the newly tinkered ending of ROTJ with Hayden and his long hair and awful smirk: it injects the only bit of pathos into a movie that even in 1983 looked like Lucas had been tinkering with rejected ideas for years.

Thank God I was a teenager who preferred Annie Hall

These films were never that good. You were six.

OTM!

(this is why the prequels didn't bother me, aside from Jar-Jar)

for christ's sake everyone knows that

Morbs, you sound like the guy spitting opinions on Alvy's neck.

i preferred annie hall too; what teenager wouldn't

I mean, really – sanctimony in a Star Wars thread? gtfo

These films were never that good. You were six.

the thing about this argument is that all movies are shaded by the person you were when you watched them, your mood, your intelligence, etc. so being a teenager who preferred Annie Hall is not really any better than being a six-year-old (or 36-year-old) who likes star wars

just the attitude of "a teenager who prefers Annie Hall" is going to shade them toward preferring Annie Hall because teenagers are all about being intellectually superior

Easily rebuffed by the fact that the older you are, the better you are.

"I didn't read comics; thank god I was a teenager that preferred The Magic Mountain."

http://babycostumeoutlet.info/wp-content/uploads/costume%20baby%20yoda%20halloween%20costume_2.jpg

look, all the add-ons and tinkerings are just.... not really that material. they are the same movies. and that original landspeeder looked like shit, even in the 70s

i've said it before, but by my lights the only real downside to the additional CGI is that CGI tech is always moving on, always improving, so 20 years from now, much of the CGI will look even lamer and faker than it does now. practical effects don't have this problem. so lucas - or his heirs, or whatever - will need to go back and keep touching that shit up ever few years to keep pace. until finally somebody just creates a really good full jabba suit in real life and rotoscopes that in over the CGI.

the magic mountain kinda is a comic

Easily rebuffed by the fact that the older you are, the better you are.

yet here you are, baiting people about Star Wars.

I was a 4-year-old who loved "Star Wars" at the drive-in btw

I am dying that AICN devoted most of that article to a wholly innocuous change to a mostly terrible (but super fun to watch) movie and threw in the blatantly ludicrous LMAO forever change at the end as an "oh btw they did this too", which had the unfortunate side effect of making the original "NO" complaint seem even more trivial

I hope George Luca's son continues destroying them untli one day they are like Mork from Ork

You are arguing with things I never said, n/a. Never change.

I liked the original trilogy, but at a cerain point it kicks in that they ain't Max Ophuls.
btw best post-Jedi Star Wars moment is the bar mitzvah in Deconstructing Harry.

I liked the original trilogy, but at a cerain point it kicks in that they ain't Max Ophuls

You are arguing with things no one has said, Morbz. Never change.

has anyone done a serious study of the neck issue? i saw a clip from a circa 1995 doc the other day and it was bad but nowhere near today's "south american frog inflating its neck sack" look.

The "NOOOOO!" moment in ROTS was a pretty shark-jump moment for me, but i think in the theater by that time I was like "Okay, we're in straight-up b-movie monster territory now" and it was silly and cheesy but here's a guy in a black cape named Darth Vader so really it was cheesy all along. Christopher Lee in the mix too, here we go Hammer.

Part of me really wishes they stuck to the original Empire script depiction of Darth Vader living in an evil-looking castle, feeding gargoyles by a lava lake or something.

even the stupids didn't squander christopher lee as unforgivably as lucas did

Don't forget dinosaur but CGI'd in front of Sir Alec.

dinosaur butt

http://spectrumculture.com/assets/ewokguilty.png

^^^still unfucked with

here's a guy in a black cape named Darth Vader so really it was cheesy all along.

we have a winner

how can the "NOOOOOOO!" be a shark-jump in a trilogy that has already given us:

Jar-Jar Binks
young Anakin, builder of C-3P0
older Anakin, wooden seducer of his former babysitter
Jango Fett

mark i keep seeing movement in that ewok pic, but i know that PNGs can't move

I mean, I thought the "she died because she was sad" bit was WAAAAAAAY more ludicrous than Vader's "NOOOOOOO!"

she was REALLY sad though

it was sad, she was sad

sad that her name wasn't "jango"

Films were never that good -- would agree except for empire which still holds up (just watch the first 10 minutes to confirm)
teen who prefers Annie Hall -- is right! Except for empire which has aged much better. Allen inserting McLuhan as a cameo might have been fresh at the time but now that Lucas can digitally insert Naomi Klein into Cantina scene on a whim this seems old hat. Also empire has better jokes and comedic timing.
Annie hall just has ewoks

she withered away from melancholy

I like to think that she was really broken up about not getting to wear the ludicrous wigs and makeup and her secret husband turning into a child murdering dickbag was just the final straw

By the post-count ye shall know what is valued, Sotosyn

ATTACK OF THE CLONES vs LETTER FROM AN UNKNOWN WOMAN

(by "that good," I mean worthy of more attention than Robert Aldrich's Ulzana's Raid)

True, true. Yeah, but Jar-Jar, young Anakin, all that is pretty peripheral. Darth Vader is like the first iconic figure that appears in Star Wars. This isn't baby Anakin accidentally blowing up the Death Donut or a clone of Boba Fett's father, this is the actual real Darth Vader from the original film. The guy that could choke somebody to death from across the room, he was so badass. And suddenly he's basically reliving a moment from Lethal Weapon or something.

Allen inserting McLuhan as a cameo might have been fresh at the time but now that Lucas can digitally insert Naomi Klein into Cantina scene on a whim this seems old hat.

He should digitally insert Woody Allen at the Mos Eisley bar complaining to Morbz and a pack of sad Ophuls fans.

http://eightiesmovies.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/zelig.jpghttp://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/7148/232980-jar_jar_binks_large.jpeg

why am i beginning to think morbs has a "leia in metal bikini" costume hidden in his closet.

If Jar-Jar and young Anakin had been peripheral to "The Phantom Menace", it would have been a wholly different, infinitely better movie!

xp: maybe strike out "costume"?

guys, let's just chill with some golden moments from the sad life of padme jango

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPXH11PRQLc

and sings the triumphant ewok song at the moment of climax

it's realy sad she was sad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQyEs0gk8Hw

oh damn Tracer did that already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx1uBXa-234