The strings in "Oh Allah" = one of the most beautiful things ever. Alice's string arrangements were so unique and never just... frosting.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
and Guru's jazzmatazz etc. the approach was fairly high profile for a couple years but it dead-ended quickly and by the mid-90s sampling was already getting strangled via legalities so sampling jazz records kind of dried up as a wholesale approach. I'm sure producers still mine certain records for particular sounds (snare hits, etc) but no one's looping Hank Mobley records afaict
xp
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
sonderangerbot, actually - the strings on UC weren't arranged by Ornette. Ornette only transcribed the strings of the title track, but Alice arranged it all.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
strings in jazz can be great, even if they're not batshit crazy like in alice coltrane's stuff or ornette's. the charlie parker with strings album is pretty lovely, even though some jazz cats loathe it i think. same goes for the clifford brown strings album.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
78 John Coltrane - Coltrane (Impulse) (1962) 965 Points 10 voteshttp://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/c/coltra_john_coltrane~_101b.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/0TpLOjblGPWIGjZbjCKRNW
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
xp ah you're right, always thought he wrote them as well
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
STILL going to go on complaining that as laptops make it super easy and sticking it on the internet make sample laws pointless, it sucks that no-one has gone back to that style.
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
― tylerw, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:05 PM (24 seconds ago)
Or like some of Rahsaan Roland Kirk's strings! Especially on Prepare Thyself to Deal With a Miracle.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
^^^Coltrane is off the hook fantastic. ha, so many great coltrane albums. the opener, out of this world, is maybe my favorite extended coltrane performance, just incredible forward motion rush.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
I know jazz is full of string sections & I like plenty of them but I generally like my jazz less arranged
― Red Hot Chili Peppers ‘I’m With You’ is a buffet of preposterous noise (crüt), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
Have you heard Universal Consciousness, crut? Seems to me like something you'd dig.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
tyler otm
― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
this thread has made my knowledge of jazz seem so naive
thinking of just deleting everything on my ipod and just having this list instead
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't actually - I probably would!
― Red Hot Chili Peppers ‘I’m With You’ is a buffet of preposterous noise (crüt), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the strings on UC aren't of the "let's make this music more palatable for the mainstream" variety -- not by a longshot.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
77 Miles Davis - Cookin' With The Miles Davis Quintet (1957) 966 Points, 10 voteshttp://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/d/davis_miles_cookinwit_101b.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/7jJehBSw44CijLhPaPKmTE
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
Stan Getz' Focus is my fav jazz w/strings album
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
what Miles album WON'T make it? Waterbabies?
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
I guess having 100 slots on the ballot made it easier for people to vote for e.g. 20 Miles albums, though I can't actually remember how many people did this.
― dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
what Miles album WON'T make it? Waterbabies?― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:22 PM (7 minutes ago)
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:22 PM (7 minutes ago)
― Hipster Shake Boogie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
this thread has made my knowledge of jazz seem so naivethinking of just deleting everything on my ipod and just having this list instead― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:11 PM (19 minutes ago)
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:11 PM (19 minutes ago)
― Hipster Shake Boogie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
ive never posted on that thread. as a non-muso i dont feel qualified!
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
76 David Holland Quartet - Conference of the Birds (1972) 974 Points, 8 voteshttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/4483658568_60e1225e1c_o.jpg
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
never heard of that one. what's the deal
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
My new prediction for number one is Tutu.
Ssh!
― dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
An accessible way in for people who don't like their jazz too outside but want to be able to say they like some Anthony Braxton, is part of it. Thing is, the heads are great and the playing's great, too.
― Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
I take that back -- I'm relistening now and Braxton and Rivers are not taking any prisoners.
― Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
also lol i guess i did buy esp! haven't listened yet to see if that crazy scratch has destroyed it or i got bargain miles awesomeness
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
75 Herbie Hancock - Takin' Off (1962) 976 Points, 8 voteshttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/411b2jHI3hL.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/6TylsbZ11vSNjYC4gh0KuY
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
really good record,another one I had to cull from my list
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
ok that looks like a record i need in my life
if i wasnt about to get picked up to see planet of the apes, i'd totally be pumping my speakers up
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
im gonna be honest here, i think this is my fave alltime poll list on ilx ever,and i'm not saying it because sean & I are running it.It's because of you guys voting for some awesome albums. Might not always agree with the placings, but the actual records are mostly greatness , and I'm sure the ones i dont know will be good too.
And a LOT of awesome albums to come, but take it from me if you have just joined, there are lots of genuine must haves in the 250 (and even outside it as there's a good few albums I thought would be top 100)
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
lol this may be my favourite ilx poll i've never personally done (but then i did tv + hiphop and they are my favourite things so). that and the one where the space jam ost came #2
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
how many ballots did the alltime hiphop poll get?
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
Conference of the Birds is awesome. Title track is unfuckwithable.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
about 60 singles, 40 albums iirc?
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
39 here, so that's pretty good considering jazz is very niche on ilm and the biggest posters are goons.
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
noone can beat pavement or led zep though. Maybe timbaland will?
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
74 Anthony Braxton - for alto (1968) 986 Points, 8 voteshttp://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/b/braxto_anth_foralto~~_101b.jpg
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
I need to hear Conference of the Birds. Sounds like something I'd like.
― i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
braxton is one of those dudes i should be getting into, but he seems like a *committment*some day.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
I would love it if the Timbaland turnout beats Led Zeppelin. One of the reasons I grabbed them was because I knew I wouldn't have to beat the bushes for participants.
― Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
My favorite Braxton (out of his approximately 750,000 releases). tylerw, I started with this, and heard no other Braxton for years. No need to commit.
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
oh shit, i forgot to vote for conference of the birds. might even have nommed it too.
― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
Getting into Braxton is hard work, but rewarding.
― Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
i only have a few braxton but they are great
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
I must admit i'm surprised that we got over 15 votes as there didn't seem to be a lot of posts on the voting thread but in the end it turned out ok (had to badger shakey and wm a bit,but only cuz they forget)but it all turned out ok. The number of full ballots of 100 was exceptional. How many of those did we get seandalai?
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
I'll get that number later when I'm at home.
― dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
I know who Braxton is, but yeah I've never dug in. guess I should. took me awhile to get around to Ornette too.
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
73 Sonny Sharrock - Black Woman (1969) 997 points, 10 voteshttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yUDvjFOjZMs/Tbwl_oJmiiI/AAAAAAAAA3Q/9MPs63ovmUQ/s1600/black_woman.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/3xWs9FMTAGdQtgwZTnTf98
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link