but then THE STRINGS KICK IN and everything is right with the world.
string sections in jazz? smh at this fool
― Red Hot Chili Peppers ‘I’m With You’ is a buffet of preposterous noise (crüt), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
unless that string section is john mclaughlin
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
Beautiful, piercing string sections that sound like SWORDS.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
there are plenty of songs with jazz samples (even as early as the late 80s) but the genre didn't get mined nearly as deeply as 70s funk+rock tracks did due to the legalities involved. Blue Note was all over that shit - so much so that they had their own "ALL SAMPLES LICENSED EXCLUSIVELY FROM BLUE NOTE VAULTS" project (ie this pinnacle of "jazz rap" lol)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ira3LoZiTWc
xp
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
jazz is full of string sections fyi
is that one where some twat says 'funky funky'?xp
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
I believe it is!
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
*shudders*
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), den 31 augusti 2011 19:59 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol a perfect description. not enough string sections arranged by ornette coleman in jazz
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
there was also stuff like this
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
The strings in "Oh Allah" = one of the most beautiful things ever. Alice's string arrangements were so unique and never just... frosting.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
and Guru's jazzmatazz etc. the approach was fairly high profile for a couple years but it dead-ended quickly and by the mid-90s sampling was already getting strangled via legalities so sampling jazz records kind of dried up as a wholesale approach. I'm sure producers still mine certain records for particular sounds (snare hits, etc) but no one's looping Hank Mobley records afaict
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
sonderangerbot, actually - the strings on UC weren't arranged by Ornette. Ornette only transcribed the strings of the title track, but Alice arranged it all.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
strings in jazz can be great, even if they're not batshit crazy like in alice coltrane's stuff or ornette's. the charlie parker with strings album is pretty lovely, even though some jazz cats loathe it i think. same goes for the clifford brown strings album.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
78 John Coltrane - Coltrane (Impulse) (1962) 965 Points 10 voteshttp://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/c/coltra_john_coltrane~_101b.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/0TpLOjblGPWIGjZbjCKRNW
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
xp ah you're right, always thought he wrote them as well
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
STILL going to go on complaining that as laptops make it super easy and sticking it on the internet make sample laws pointless, it sucks that no-one has gone back to that style.
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
― tylerw, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:05 PM (24 seconds ago)
Or like some of Rahsaan Roland Kirk's strings! Especially on Prepare Thyself to Deal With a Miracle.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
^^^Coltrane is off the hook fantastic. ha, so many great coltrane albums. the opener, out of this world, is maybe my favorite extended coltrane performance, just incredible forward motion rush.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
I know jazz is full of string sections & I like plenty of them but I generally like my jazz less arranged
― Red Hot Chili Peppers ‘I’m With You’ is a buffet of preposterous noise (crüt), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
Have you heard Universal Consciousness, crut? Seems to me like something you'd dig.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
tyler otm
― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
this thread has made my knowledge of jazz seem so naive
thinking of just deleting everything on my ipod and just having this list instead
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't actually - I probably would!
― Red Hot Chili Peppers ‘I’m With You’ is a buffet of preposterous noise (crüt), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the strings on UC aren't of the "let's make this music more palatable for the mainstream" variety -- not by a longshot.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
77 Miles Davis - Cookin' With The Miles Davis Quintet (1957) 966 Points, 10 voteshttp://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/d/davis_miles_cookinwit_101b.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/7jJehBSw44CijLhPaPKmTE
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
Stan Getz' Focus is my fav jazz w/strings album
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
what Miles album WON'T make it? Waterbabies?
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
I guess having 100 slots on the ballot made it easier for people to vote for e.g. 20 Miles albums, though I can't actually remember how many people did this.
― dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
what Miles album WON'T make it? Waterbabies?― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:22 PM (7 minutes ago)
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:22 PM (7 minutes ago)
― Hipster Shake Boogie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
this thread has made my knowledge of jazz seem so naivethinking of just deleting everything on my ipod and just having this list instead― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:11 PM (19 minutes ago)
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:11 PM (19 minutes ago)
― Hipster Shake Boogie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
ive never posted on that thread. as a non-muso i dont feel qualified!
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
76 David Holland Quartet - Conference of the Birds (1972) 974 Points, 8 voteshttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/4483658568_60e1225e1c_o.jpg
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
never heard of that one. what's the deal
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
My new prediction for number one is Tutu.
Ssh!
― dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
An accessible way in for people who don't like their jazz too outside but want to be able to say they like some Anthony Braxton, is part of it. Thing is, the heads are great and the playing's great, too.
― Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
I take that back -- I'm relistening now and Braxton and Rivers are not taking any prisoners.
― Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
also lol i guess i did buy esp! haven't listened yet to see if that crazy scratch has destroyed it or i got bargain miles awesomeness
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
75 Herbie Hancock - Takin' Off (1962) 976 Points, 8 voteshttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/411b2jHI3hL.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/6TylsbZ11vSNjYC4gh0KuY
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
really good record,another one I had to cull from my list
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
ok that looks like a record i need in my life
if i wasnt about to get picked up to see planet of the apes, i'd totally be pumping my speakers up
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
im gonna be honest here, i think this is my fave alltime poll list on ilx ever,and i'm not saying it because sean & I are running it.It's because of you guys voting for some awesome albums. Might not always agree with the placings, but the actual records are mostly greatness , and I'm sure the ones i dont know will be good too.
And a LOT of awesome albums to come, but take it from me if you have just joined, there are lots of genuine must haves in the 250 (and even outside it as there's a good few albums I thought would be top 100)
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
lol this may be my favourite ilx poll i've never personally done (but then i did tv + hiphop and they are my favourite things so). that and the one where the space jam ost came #2
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
how many ballots did the alltime hiphop poll get?
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
Conference of the Birds is awesome. Title track is unfuckwithable.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
about 60 singles, 40 albums iirc?
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
39 here, so that's pretty good considering jazz is very niche on ilm and the biggest posters are goons.
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
noone can beat pavement or led zep though. Maybe timbaland will?
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
74 Anthony Braxton - for alto (1968) 986 Points, 8 voteshttp://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/b/braxto_anth_foralto~~_101b.jpg
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
I need to hear Conference of the Birds. Sounds like something I'd like.
― i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link