81 Thelonious Monk - Monk's Dream (1962) 949 Points, 10 voteshttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9LDgV0lN__U/TMmS1RpUO3I/AAAAAAAAAiI/GTu5CFAlsJY/s1600/Monk+dreams.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/5VTlqV8lZH3YspQ1cDcjrL
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
Love this album
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
Me too.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
that's how tough culling my ballot was when that monk album didn't make my 100
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
Crescent rating lower than Stellar Regions is kinda crazy. Only 8 votes? I wouldn't rate it his best, but definitely in his top 4-5.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesdayreally? i always thought crescent was very nice but not exceptional, and they're not really comparable, but for my money i LOVE stellar regions....i didn't vote but i'da voted for just about any Monk, Rollins or ornette, and zero ra (who i useda listen to pretty extensively). who cares
― quaff the spud you warbling milkbag (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
I thought i voted for 3 or 4 ra but i musta cut 3 as i only had 1 on my ballot in the end
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
80 Miles Davis - Miles Smiles (1967) 951 Points, 9 voteshttp://images.uulyrics.com/cover/m/miles-davis/album-miles-smiles.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/0tbR9i5NTey4b0QZxZ3xa2
(rofl at the wrong album artwork on spotify)
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
would love to see "thelonious himself" place. not looking likely now after two of his more celebrated records have already made it.
― charlie h, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
An album with two #1's up next
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
79 Alice Coltrane - Universal Consciousness (1971) 964 Points, 7 votes, TWO #1'shttp://3brainkarnakinterloper.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/alice-coltrane.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/3D20vh7NKhKnEoKz6FuwAW
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
no doubt two people will moan it's too low..
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
tbh that is shockingly low
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
I like that one, but Journey in Satchidananda is superior imho. UC has some more dissonant/out there moments, I guess.
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
wish you (and others) had all voted, although you would all vote for different things and cancel each other out and placings would remain the same.
or sun ra would fill up the top 10 completely
xp
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
not just two people
i bet every other record in this poll has been sampled to shit― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:51 (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:51 (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is weird because sampling as a general opportunity only really existed within about a 10 year gap between ppl learning to do it and ppl getting sued for doing it. so they got through all the great funk records and were starting to move onto jazz/soul/anything before you had to start paying up. so it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these records haven't been sampled at all even if they could all be flipped into something else worth hearing in a different context.
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
I am one of those two people Kerr refers to. Universal Consciousness is fucking transcendent on so many levels. Hearing Rashied Ali battling it out with Alice on the organ makes you think "Things can't get better than this" but then THE STRINGS KICK IN and everything is right with the world.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
a hoy hoy OTM re: sampling
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
i remember hearing a bunch of rap songs with jazz samples years ago. if someone ever says 'funky funky' during a herbie hancock track again im gonna hit them with a cricket bat
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
but then THE STRINGS KICK IN and everything is right with the world.
string sections in jazz? smh at this fool
― Red Hot Chili Peppers ‘I’m With You’ is a buffet of preposterous noise (crüt), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
unless that string section is john mclaughlin
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
Beautiful, piercing string sections that sound like SWORDS.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
there are plenty of songs with jazz samples (even as early as the late 80s) but the genre didn't get mined nearly as deeply as 70s funk+rock tracks did due to the legalities involved. Blue Note was all over that shit - so much so that they had their own "ALL SAMPLES LICENSED EXCLUSIVELY FROM BLUE NOTE VAULTS" project (ie this pinnacle of "jazz rap" lol)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ira3LoZiTWc
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
jazz is full of string sections fyi
is that one where some twat says 'funky funky'?xp
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
I believe it is!
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
*shudders*
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), den 31 augusti 2011 19:59 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol a perfect description. not enough string sections arranged by ornette coleman in jazz
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
there was also stuff like this
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
The strings in "Oh Allah" = one of the most beautiful things ever. Alice's string arrangements were so unique and never just... frosting.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
and Guru's jazzmatazz etc. the approach was fairly high profile for a couple years but it dead-ended quickly and by the mid-90s sampling was already getting strangled via legalities so sampling jazz records kind of dried up as a wholesale approach. I'm sure producers still mine certain records for particular sounds (snare hits, etc) but no one's looping Hank Mobley records afaict
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
sonderangerbot, actually - the strings on UC weren't arranged by Ornette. Ornette only transcribed the strings of the title track, but Alice arranged it all.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
strings in jazz can be great, even if they're not batshit crazy like in alice coltrane's stuff or ornette's. the charlie parker with strings album is pretty lovely, even though some jazz cats loathe it i think. same goes for the clifford brown strings album.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
78 John Coltrane - Coltrane (Impulse) (1962) 965 Points 10 voteshttp://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/c/coltra_john_coltrane~_101b.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/0TpLOjblGPWIGjZbjCKRNW
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
xp ah you're right, always thought he wrote them as well
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
STILL going to go on complaining that as laptops make it super easy and sticking it on the internet make sample laws pointless, it sucks that no-one has gone back to that style.
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
― tylerw, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:05 PM (24 seconds ago)
Or like some of Rahsaan Roland Kirk's strings! Especially on Prepare Thyself to Deal With a Miracle.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
^^^Coltrane is off the hook fantastic. ha, so many great coltrane albums. the opener, out of this world, is maybe my favorite extended coltrane performance, just incredible forward motion rush.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
I know jazz is full of string sections & I like plenty of them but I generally like my jazz less arranged
― Red Hot Chili Peppers ‘I’m With You’ is a buffet of preposterous noise (crüt), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
Have you heard Universal Consciousness, crut? Seems to me like something you'd dig.
― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
tyler otm
― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
this thread has made my knowledge of jazz seem so naive
thinking of just deleting everything on my ipod and just having this list instead
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't actually - I probably would!
― Red Hot Chili Peppers ‘I’m With You’ is a buffet of preposterous noise (crüt), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the strings on UC aren't of the "let's make this music more palatable for the mainstream" variety -- not by a longshot.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
77 Miles Davis - Cookin' With The Miles Davis Quintet (1957) 966 Points, 10 voteshttp://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/d/davis_miles_cookinwit_101b.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/7jJehBSw44CijLhPaPKmTE
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
Stan Getz' Focus is my fav jazz w/strings album
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
what Miles album WON'T make it? Waterbabies?
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
I guess having 100 slots on the ballot made it easier for people to vote for e.g. 20 Miles albums, though I can't actually remember how many people did this.
― dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
what Miles album WON'T make it? Waterbabies?― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:22 PM (7 minutes ago)
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:22 PM (7 minutes ago)
― Hipster Shake Boogie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
this thread has made my knowledge of jazz seem so naivethinking of just deleting everything on my ipod and just having this list instead― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:11 PM (19 minutes ago)
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:11 PM (19 minutes ago)
― Hipster Shake Boogie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
ive never posted on that thread. as a non-muso i dont feel qualified!
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link