JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

you only need to utter his name once and he turns up on an ILM poll..

#9 of the poll for mr ra

has sun ra been sampled a lot/anywhere?

82    John Coltrane - Stellar Regions (1967) 942 Points, 9 votes  One #1
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IyDZgXq8QH0/Shz3qmk4oPI/AAAAAAAACr8/8IIWPlUx3UU/s400/John+Coltrane+-+Stellar+Regions.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5HbLIgbhn9mLW8bZ6zKfgM

11th for Mr Coltrane

has sun ra been sampled a lot/anywhere?

MF Doom, Wooden Shjips... I'm sure there's others

i bet every other record in this poll has been sampled to shit

Doubt anyone has ever sampled Noah Howard's The Black Ark, though that would be fucking awesome. I'm glad other people voted for it.

Crescent rating lower than Stellar Regions is kinda crazy. Only 8 votes? I wouldn't rate it his best, but definitely in his top 4-5.

81    Thelonious Monk - Monk's Dream (1962) 949 Points, 10 votes
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9LDgV0lN__U/TMmS1RpUO3I/AAAAAAAAAiI/GTu5CFAlsJY/s1600/Monk+dreams.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5VTlqV8lZH3YspQ1cDcjrL

Love this album

Me too.

that's how tough culling my ballot was when that monk album didn't make my 100

Crescent rating lower than Stellar Regions is kinda crazy. Only 8 votes? I wouldn't rate it his best, but definitely in his top 4-5.

― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday
really? i always thought crescent was very nice but not exceptional, and they're not really comparable, but for my money i LOVE stellar regions....i didn't vote but i'da voted for just about any Monk, Rollins or ornette, and zero ra (who i useda listen to pretty extensively). who cares

I thought i voted for 3 or 4 ra but i musta cut 3 as i only had 1 on my ballot in the end

80    Miles Davis - Miles Smiles (1967) 951 Points, 9 votes
http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/m/miles-davis/album-miles-smiles.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/0tbR9i5NTey4b0QZxZ3xa2

(rofl at the wrong album artwork on spotify)

would love to see "thelonious himself" place. not looking likely now after two of his more celebrated records have already made it.

An album with two #1's up next

79    Alice Coltrane - Universal Consciousness (1971) 964 Points, 7 votes, TWO #1's
http://3brainkarnakinterloper.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/alice-coltrane.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/3D20vh7NKhKnEoKz6FuwAW

no doubt two people will moan it's too low..

tbh that is shockingly low

I like that one, but Journey in Satchidananda is superior imho. UC has some more dissonant/out there moments, I guess.

wish you (and others) had all voted, although you would all vote for different things and cancel each other out and placings would remain the same.

or sun ra would fill up the top 10 completely

xp

not just two people

i bet every other record in this poll has been sampled to shit

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:51 (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is weird because sampling as a general opportunity only really existed within about a 10 year gap between ppl learning to do it and ppl getting sued for doing it. so they got through all the great funk records and were starting to move onto jazz/soul/anything before you had to start paying up. so it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these records haven't been sampled at all even if they could all be flipped into something else worth hearing in a different context.

I am one of those two people Kerr refers to. Universal Consciousness is fucking transcendent on so many levels. Hearing Rashied Ali battling it out with Alice on the organ makes you think "Things can't get better than this" but then THE STRINGS KICK IN and everything is right with the world.

a hoy hoy OTM re: sampling

i remember hearing a bunch of rap songs with jazz samples years ago.
if someone ever says 'funky funky' during a herbie hancock track again im gonna hit them with a cricket bat

but then THE STRINGS KICK IN and everything is right with the world.

string sections in jazz? smh at this fool

unless that string section is john mclaughlin

Beautiful, piercing string sections that sound like SWORDS.

there are plenty of songs with jazz samples (even as early as the late 80s) but the genre didn't get mined nearly as deeply as 70s funk+rock tracks did due to the legalities involved. Blue Note was all over that shit - so much so that they had their own "ALL SAMPLES LICENSED EXCLUSIVELY FROM BLUE NOTE VAULTS" project (ie this pinnacle of "jazz rap" lol)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ira3LoZiTWc

xp

string sections in jazz? smh at this fool

jazz is full of string sections fyi

is that one where some twat says 'funky funky'?
xp

I believe it is!

*shudders*

Beautiful, piercing string sections that sound like SWORDS.

― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), den 31 augusti 2011 19:59 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol a perfect description. not enough string sections arranged by ornette coleman in jazz

there was also stuff like this

The strings in "Oh Allah" = one of the most beautiful things ever. Alice's string arrangements were so unique and never just... frosting.

and Guru's jazzmatazz etc. the approach was fairly high profile for a couple years but it dead-ended quickly and by the mid-90s sampling was already getting strangled via legalities so sampling jazz records kind of dried up as a wholesale approach. I'm sure producers still mine certain records for particular sounds (snare hits, etc) but no one's looping Hank Mobley records afaict

xp

sonderangerbot, actually - the strings on UC weren't arranged by Ornette. Ornette only transcribed the strings of the title track, but Alice arranged it all.

strings in jazz can be great, even if they're not batshit crazy like in alice coltrane's stuff or ornette's. the charlie parker with strings album is pretty lovely, even though some jazz cats loathe it i think. same goes for the clifford brown strings album.

78    John Coltrane - Coltrane (Impulse) (1962) 965 Points 10 votes
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/c/coltra_john_coltrane~_101b.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/0TpLOjblGPWIGjZbjCKRNW

xp ah you're right, always thought he wrote them as well

STILL going to go on complaining that as laptops make it super easy and sticking it on the internet make sample laws pointless, it sucks that no-one has gone back to that style.

strings in jazz can be great, even if they're not batshit crazy like in alice coltrane's stuff or ornette's. the charlie parker with strings album is pretty lovely, even though some jazz cats loathe it i think. same goes for the clifford brown strings album.

― tylerw, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:05 PM (24 seconds ago)

Or like some of Rahsaan Roland Kirk's strings! Especially on Prepare Thyself to Deal With a Miracle.

^^^Coltrane is off the hook fantastic. ha, so many great coltrane albums. the opener, out of this world, is maybe my favorite extended coltrane performance, just incredible forward motion rush.

I know jazz is full of string sections & I like plenty of them but I generally like my jazz less arranged

Have you heard Universal Consciousness, crut? Seems to me like something you'd dig.

tyler otm

this thread has made my knowledge of jazz seem so naive

thinking of just deleting everything on my ipod and just having this list instead