quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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As an antisocial weirdo I have never exchanged pleasantries with anyone over the waffle machine.

Do not go gentle into that good frogbs (silby), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

Joe Nocera is off today.

badg, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

I exchanged presents with my mom on Christmas once and gave her a waffle machine and it was a pleasant day

unwarranted display names of ilx (mh), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link

david brooks i been to the comfort inn and there aint no haimish there son

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:23 (twelve years ago) link

This is a generalized phenomenon, which applies to other aspects of life. Often, as we spend more on something, what we gain in privacy and elegance we lose in spontaneous sociability.

youre like blowing my MIND man!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link

drink and song and fraternity and waffles is all a man needs

remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link

next time in editorials: david brooks tries to befriend a hobo by the underpass, finds the guy's grouchiness an "affirmation of the dignity of the human spirit" then discovers his wallet missing

notorious ilx wet noodle (remy bean), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

what a scamp! haha welp back to being not homeless

remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:58 (twelve years ago) link

boudu saved from drowning by david brooks

Murdered plants communicate with a bowl of shrimps in another room! (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 02:14 (twelve years ago) link

haha if ever there was someone who deserved someone like Boudu to come into their lives and make a total mockery of it, it's David Brooks.

Murdered plants communicate with a bowl of shrimps in another room! (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link

that's gotta be the tritest take-away from a trip to africa ever

shannon goon (symsymsym), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 07:06 (twelve years ago) link

if you look up the "reporting" Brooks claims to have been doing in Africa you'll find a relatively short article about Richard Leakey which contains not a single quote

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:31 (twelve years ago) link

haha if ever there was someone who deserved someone like Boudu to come into their lives and make a total mockery of it, it's David Brooks.

REMAKE! (again)

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

that's gotta be the tritest take-away from a trip to africa ever

― shannon goon (symsymsym), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:06 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

in the grand tradition of the autobiography of malcolm x, david brooks takes a trip to africa...

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

Likewise, Amy Klein, who graduated from Harvard in 2007 with a degree in English literature, couldn’t find a job in publishing. At one point, she had applied for an editorial-assistant job at Gourmet magazine. Less than two weeks later, Condé Nast shut down that 68- year-old magazine. “So much for that job application,” said Ms. Klein, now 26.

One night she bumped into a friend, who asked her to join a punk rock band, Titus Andronicus, as a guitarist. Once, that might have been considered professional suicide. But weighed against a dreary day job, music suddenly held considerable appeal. So last spring, she sublet her room in the Fort Greene section of Brooklyn and toured the country in an old Chevy minivan.

max, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

didn't they do this same article in like 1993?

sarahel, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

I thought the article was pretty good

iatee, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

i didnt read the whole thing im just sort of loling at the generation gap/assumptions being made there

max, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

1993 and 2011 are 'a little bit different'

iatee, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

unemployed recent college grad asked to tour the country with moderately-successful punk band? ONCE, that would have been unheard of! but in this climate, you never know

max, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

I was more amused at my reaction of 'okay reading story, another grad, wait why Titus Andronicus oh it's THAT Amy'

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i liked that article

i mean any style section piece that features someone who makes $12/hour and can barely afford food doesnt really belong in this thread imo

:: (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, FedEx bought out Kinko's, so you can't say you graduated w/honors in English and are now assistant manager at Kinko's.

sarahel, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

a freelance gig writing for Elfster.com, a “secret Santa” Web site.

what the shit

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

and it kinda sucks, but you can use the copiers at work to make copies of your zine and fliers for your friends' bands shows

sarahel, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

i knew s4r4h in that article in college! she is nice.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

“I have a college education that I feel like I am wasting by being there,” he added. “I am supposed to do something interesting, something with my brain.” For a while, Mr. Shore ran LongevityDrugstore.com, an online drug retailer that he started, but it went nowhere. To stretch his pay check, he made beans and rice at home and drove slowly to save gas. Eventually he quit, got work as a dock hand and is now thinking of becoming a doctor.

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

wtf @ driving slowly to save gas

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

yeah lamp otm

usually these articles are like 'Ryan couldn't even land his dream job at Goldman and has been forced to suffer the indignities of working at a small consulting firm'.

this one is basically normal middle class kids

iatee, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

But when his parents started charging him $500 a month for rent

what assholes!

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

guys I QUOTED the funny two paragraphs for you

max, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

i guess it is funny to pay $125,000 dollars for your undergrad expecting to get a job in publishing, in 2007

:: (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

thanks max, now i know that Elfster exists.

sarahel, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

“I am supposed to do something interesting, something with my brain.”

i have no sympathy for this dude

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

why? that seems like a reasonable expectation in a lot of ways although i can see reading 'interesting' as a little stronger

:: (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

idk, it's not that i don't sympathize with the difficulty getting a career off the ground, because i feel like i fall squarely in this 'trend' -- idk, it just seems like there is a difference between feeling frustrated and undervalued at your job, and thinking that the only jobs that you *can* get are somehow beneath you.

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

"i am destined for important things! i will become a doctor!"

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

I agree with you entirely. In fact, I kinda feel like working a low-paying menial job after college/grad school is a (shitty) rite of passage.

remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

otm

sarahel, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

and i think it's not that he "wants to do something interesting" "with his brain," it's that he expects to be paid handsomely for it

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

ha, it's pretty easy to do interesting things with one's brain and not get paid for them at all.

sarahel, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Elfster was really the only quiddity part of that article but wow, so quiddy

Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

I mean the whole "I went to a good school, I deserve a good job" is just meritocratic bullshit filtered through the lens of the academy. Correct reading of that passage above: I was sufficiently privileged as a child and thus admitted to a 'top' school that my parents paid for /was be-scholarshipped/attended on a good loan package, and now I should get a good job unlike those schmucks who didn't go to a college/went to a state school or community college/spent time in the military/took time off because I am a Hard Working Kid Who Deserves More even though I have done very little but attend a liberal arts program and maybe work summers serving ice cream on a pier.

remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

dude it was on a pier
you don't know their pain

Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

my personal big boob crisis

Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

Isn't it Louis C.K. who says there's very little in the world worse than a 20- year old complaining about the kind of job 20 year olds take?

remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

dude can't find consulting jobs out of biz school
works in a call center, bails
starts a retail drug site, fails
takes a job as a dockworker, dreams of becoming a doctor

i mean, in another economic climate, this dude might have hopped on a biz career path and sailed away, but as it is, i can't help but feel like this is just a dude whose ambitions do not match his work ethic

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

his first mistake was going to biz school

remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link


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