― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link
(Dylan is my one -- inexplicable -- exception where lyrics are as much a part of my enjoyment of him as the music.)
― David A. (Davant), Sunday, 7 August 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link
i have a deep, deep-rooted loathing of bob dylan. but a lot of it is based not so much on his music as on the way in which he's deified. indeed, i've occasionally found myself listening to his music and enjoying it. for that reason, i now have to avoid him at all costs :)
irrational? me? perish the thought.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 7 August 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 August 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes, but that is YOUR experience. My experience is otherwise, and thus we move into the wonderful realm of difference.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 August 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
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― akm, Monday, 16 April 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link
I understand Corbijn - who has invested his lifesavings in the project
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 April 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link
Wait - WHAT'S THIS ???
http://www.amazon.com/Martin-Hannetts-Personal-Mixes-Division/dp/B000OVL766
How have I not heard anything about this?
Discovered by friends of Martin Hannett recently and with input from one of his relatives,these recordings give a rare insight into his production ideas for Joy Division and his relationship with the band.,the strange things/ sound effects they recorded in the studio together etc etc ,.The studio chit chat and interplay between Hannett and Joy Division members is all here as Martin left his own tape machine running throughout studio sessions. On this album we have rare alternative mixes of Joy Division that were Martin's personal favourites and he had the fore thought to get the band members to give him control of these recordings. A must for all Joy Division fans. Includes alternative mixes of Autosuggestion, Heart and soul, 24 hours, Passover, The Eternal (2 mixes), From Safety to where & Decades (3 mixes).
― StanM, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 12:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah I saw it in the record store last w-e. I'm a bit suspicious I have to say, but then again I've never been a JD completist.
― baaderonixx, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 12:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Hmmm. It's weird. Elevator sounds, silences, synth bits, talking, and then a couple of different mixes of those songs - no drastically different versions. I've now heard the three versions of Decades (called "N4" here) and apart from someone shouting "1, 2, 3" before the bass starts in two of those mixes, I can't really tell what's so different between them all. There are differences, but they're too subtle, I guess.
― StanM, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 12:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I think they're really scrapping the barrel to have some JD release on the shelves this year.
― baaderonixx, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link
It would appear that there's no shortage of scrapings to be had from the bottom of that particular barrel, as the three original albums are all scheduled to re-released very shortly: - on CD (each one containing a "bonus disc" featuring a previously unavailable legitimately live recording - so that's a "bonus disc" which in reality will probably the main reason that >90% of them will be sold); - on vinyl (£18 each for Unknown Pleasures and Closer, and for Still either £33 if you're prepared to have it in a plain old cardboard sleeve or £45 if you want it in hardboard & hessian with ribbons etc. - and no bonus tracks); - and in a quite phenomenally expensive vinyl-only boxset at £160 a pop, still with none of that bonus material (which according to my calculations means that you'd be forking out a frankly astonishing 79 quid for "a special Peter Saville designed hard cover box").
― Stewart Osborne, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link
i picked up a real mint copy of unknown pleasures on vinyl (orig. pressing) this weekend...i have a fancy new record player and everything...honestly, having only heard this song on the crappy old CDs, it's like a completely different record. there's so much more going on in the mix and so much more low end...
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link
The Killers Set For Joy Division Soundtrack
The Killers, New Order and David Bowie are among a host of acts who are set to appear on the soundtrack to movie 'Control' - a biopic about Joy Division frontman Ian Curtis.
Released on October 1st, the soundtrack will feature the Killers cover of Joy Division's, 'Shadowplay,' which they have been road testing at live shows throughout the summer.
The soundtrack for the movie will also feature three instrumental tracks from New Order. 'Get Out,' 'Exit' and 'Hypnosis' have all been recorded for the film.
Other songs on the soundtrack come courtesy of Iggy Pop, David Bowie and Roxy Music.
All the music features in 'Control,' which has just received critical acclaim at the Edinburgh International Film Festival where it won the Michael Powell award for best new British feature.
'Control' will go on general release across the UK on October 5th.
The full tracklisting for the soundtrack is as follows:
New Order - 'Exit' The Velvet Underground - 'What Goes On' The Killers - 'Shadowplay' Buzzcocks - 'Boredom' (live version) Joy Division - 'Dead Souls' Supersister - 'She Was Naked' Iggy Pop - 'Sister Midnight' Joy Division - 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' Sex Pistols - 'Problems' (live version) New Order - 'Hypnosis' David Bowie - 'Drive-In Saturday' John Cooper Clarke - 'Evidently Chickentown' Roxy Music - '2HB' Joy Division - 'Transmission' (cast cover) Kraftwerk - 'Autobahn' Joy Division - 'Atmosphere' David Bowie - 'Warszawa' New Order - 'Get Out'
http://www.musicrooms.net/cm/live/templates/?a=5350&z=5
― Stewart Osborne, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 08:41 (sixteen years ago) link
each one containing a "bonus disc" featuring a previously unavailable legitimately live recording
The Unknown Pleasures 'bonus' live recording is in fact the Russell Club gig from July 79 - all but two or three tracks are also on the 'Heart And Soul' box.
Closer comes with the ULU set (which is ace) and Still is with the High Wycombe gig, including soundcheck. They have not added '24 Hours' to the Birmingham gig on Still, so the only place to get that is on the original vinyl (where it is uncredited on the sleeve IIRC)
The Control soundtrack is pretty boring - don't get excited about the New Order tracks, they're instrumental interludes.
― Dr.C, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 09:30 (sixteen years ago) link
and....mornin' Stewart!
― Dr.C, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 09:31 (sixteen years ago) link
I wonder what happens at 2:06 in the Substance version of "No Love Lost."
― roxymuzak, Monday, 26 November 2007 05:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Or the "An Ideal For Living" version, I guess.
― roxymuzak, Monday, 26 November 2007 05:25 (sixteen years ago) link
And that version of Shadowplay by the Killers is horrid. It sounds... wrong. I mean, its not exactly a subtle song, but you need some attitude to pull it off. I guess you could approach that attitude in lots of way, self-disgust, arrogant bombast, quiet resignation - I could see somebody managing that, but the Killers have a 'I'm too cool to care much about anything and my smugness is well justified because if I was chocolate I would eat myself' doesn't really do anything with the song.
― Sandy Blair, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link
http://acuterecords.com/blog/?p=28
― dan selzer, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
I like how you started that with "and."
― roxymuzak, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link
I just realized Dead Souls sounds like Velvet Underground. This has never before occured to me, though I've known that song for 20 years. ???
― Bimble, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 07:51 (sixteen years ago) link