BBC Football coverage, list problems here

I liked Lee Dixon's Downing analysis. I like Lee Dixon.

yeah

better with keown tho

fuckin ell

ha, wrong thread

http://www.surrealfootball.com/2011/08/24/match-of-the-day-3-a-play-by-play-analysis/

Brentford fan Archer believes Cash Machine Man City will be Living for the Weekend against Wigan, Sunderland will be Good for Nothing versus Chelsea and Newcastle, without a defeat so far this season, will remain Hard to Beat in their match at QPR.

Whoever wrote this is a problem with BBC coverage

Also two separate people, one of them inevitably Lawro, acting like "Stracqualursi" is some next-level unpronouncable shit, as if you couldn't even take a crack at saying those four terrifying syllables out loud

is it better to say it then get it wrong though?

i mean, some people even mispronounce single syllable words like 'rake'

the proms here is a big problem with the bbc's football coverage.

lol!

true, but worth catching this year imo

Italian football stereotype? Check.

have they actually decided to make a policy of featuring the most fucking horrendous rock bands in the uk as a key element of their football coverage wherever possible? or do they just actually have such woeful taste?

"rock and football" in that post-oasis way makes me want to cry.

Huge thumbs up for using Rizzle Kicks for Goal of the Month, though.

jesus this is just fucking AWFUL

they flag every event in advance, the commentary is shit, the editing/replays are rubbish, the whole thing's just shoddy

Would swap you every day of the week for BBC Scotland's coverage. Almost had to mute the telly last night, except that the radio coverage is actually even worse.

re flagging every event, BBC Scotland's SPL highlights always have that drama-killing commentary that doesn't even pretend to be live. Sure we may know what's going to happen, but we also know that Jack Nicholson's going to go crazy in The Shining, and that doesn't mean that a narrator outlining every scene before it happens wouldn't make it a lesser viewing experience.

i don't mind summary-style commentary on highlights at all, but the bbc previewing everything when they have no commercial breaks is maddening. we're already watching.

BBC Scotland's SPL highlights always have that drama-killing commentary that doesn't even pretend to be live

This is extremely annoying, yes. I have no clue either why they always give Liam McLeod live telly games, the man has zero clue and just peddles the same old shite every time he's on. Craig Paterson as co-commentator is worse. He went into Wednesday's game with one solitary opinion about Celtic ("James Forrest is a pretty good player") and just parrotted it every two minutes despite Forrest giving the ball away almost every time he got it. He seemed to treat Forrest's second-half revival as some sort of vindication of his first-half opinion, even though his entire first-half commentary just made him look like he couldn't actually see what was going on and was just commenting on a general hunch rather than on what he was watching.

Oh, and I fucking hate Pat Nevin talking about himself in the guise of talking about football, and he's on every bloody week. Well done, you've read a book and heard of Vini Reilly. Now fuck off.

nevin doubt

blimey, i'd always assumed that little indie wanker was off limits round here

I do like him, but he's a bit of a dull pundit. He can't be too happy at being ghettoed into Scottish football, he was never particularly associated with it in his heyday as I recall it. Could do with slating some big names again to boost the profile a bit.

In 2010 Nevin signed as a non-playing substitute for new club Chester FC after Colin Murray of BBC Radio 5 live offered the new club £2,000 if they named Nevin and Perry Groves as unused substitutes at every game in the 2010-11 season.This was live on 'Kicking off with Colin Murray', a show Nevin has appeared on every week since the start of the 2009/10 season. Nevin is usually beaten by ex-Arsenal player Perry Groves in the weekly quiz.

I take that back, this is high-level stuff.

wherever there is talk of useless pundits perry groves' name is sure to be found

Kevin. Gallagher.

Makes Craig Burley seem insightful. Has a really annoying rising inflection thing going that makes everything he says sound like it's coming as a surprise to him. Horrible Anglo-Scottish vaaaaaooooouuuuuuwel sounds.

idk pat nevin /is/ pretty innocuous, you can't just pretend he's some infernal lamacq/barton indie/fitba hybrid banter legend when he's just a nice little chap who maybe liked the cocteau twins

Dude, he shoehorns Camera Obscura lyrics into his punditry. He's also a contentious wee fud who likes the sound of his own voice too much and rewrites history with nary a challenge from any of the morons who share studio space with him because they are all frightened of his massive intellect (i.e. has read a book once).

I've met him a couple of times, he seems an OK chap, tbh, but his presence as some sort of intellectual demigod in the Scottish media is kind of terrifying.

Tom OTM about Kevin Gallagher, btw.

his presence as some sort of intellectual demigod in the Scottish media is kind of terrifying

tbf to the wee man it does not take much to become an intellectual demigod in the Scottish media

yeah well david hume is dead and malcolm rifkind and bobby g are down in london, it's not his fault the scottish media are desparate for someone to hype up as an intellectual

also scotland undoubtedly wins the battle of the p-nevs

heh xp

Pat Nevin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Kane

I also seem to recall Tottenham being 3-0 up at half-time against Manchester United at the Lane in 2001, and losing 5-3. I'm not sure that offers too much hope to QPR fans though?

YOU'RE SHIT

Give soldiers Alan Hansen's wages
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2055292/BBC-pundit-Alan-Hansen-rakes-40k-Match-Day-appearance.html

£40,000 a week for spending Saturday afternoon sitting down watching football? Who does he think he is? Denilson?

A+

So Lee Dixon is off to ITV allegedly

What do you all think of the World Football podcast with Dotun Atebayo, Tim Vickery and others?

After listening to this hybrid of hip-hop and garage music, I wanted to kill someone

well then

I love the world football phone in. Dotun and Tim Vickery are ace. I wish they had European football experts on more often tho.

the bbc previewing everything when they have no commercial breaks is maddening. we're already watching.

― zvookster, Thursday, 27 October 2011

they skipped this part this week, with lineker explaining it using logic that would hold any week

Colin Murray is to be dropped as the Match of the Day 2 presenter next season.

Murray, who has anchored the Sunday highlights show for two years since Adrian Chiles moved to ITV, is to be replaced by rising BBC star Mark Chapman.

He is regarded as a more suitable host for a programme that increasingly features the most important Premier League matches of the weekend.

It is understood that the Ulsterman had also irritated a number of BBC football pundits by the way he criticised players.

Alan Hansen sneeringly told Murray on one occasion that he should leave the negative comments to the experts.

Chapman will be expected to ask Hansen and Co more questions rather than giving his own opinions as Murray preferred to do in his irreverent presenter's role.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44918000/jpg/_44918046_-30.jpg
So, Alan, do you think Lennon went down easily there?

so it is possible to get fired from MOTD. Not if you're an ex-pro though obviously

Fucking hell. Hansen once bothered with motd2?

I hope Murray goes ham for the rest of the season, spraying irreverence around like Tony Montana

Alan Hansen sneeringly told Murray on one occasion that he should leave the negative comments to the experts.

No great fan of Colin Murray, but this is total shite.

i used to be a fan of Hansen. but for years he's been dead to me, probably dead to himself.

I don't get the mentality though. Even if you took the view that people not getting on is a bad thing, contrary to the first rule of television aiui, you get rid of the upbeat guy?!

it's all about access. professionals probably have the closest links to those still within the game and the administrative bodies, plus a natural disinclination to frivolity and taking the piss. the old "if you weren't there you know nothing and your opinion is worthless" attitude is rife, which means that potato-brains like Shearer can still comfortably ignore the opinion of anybody who doesn't belong to the profession no matter how ill-formed and unexamined his own opinions might be. to be a top flight football reporter you either learn the appropriate deference or get another job.

i mean ailsa's right, Murray is a clown, but if the alternative is an increasingly blanded out Official Version then i'm on the side of the clowns tbh. i've noticed increasing antagonism between the pros and the punters on 606 and shows of its ilk lately. and okay, a lot of punters are ignorant idiots, but if you think playing professionally automatically elevates you above the realm of ignorant idiot then you probably haven't really listened to most of the shite ex-pros spout.

it's the same response you get from some writers, musicians, artists towards critics, an unfounded dismissal of the right to criticise based on professional credentials that ignores the amount of bollocks spouted by both sides