Best Metal Gear poll

g*d damn i just remembered trying to make it up all those stairs at the end of MGS2, it took my like three days

later i read that you could just pop a bunch of stun grenades and probably not even fire a shot

i never end of using like half the things i have in my pack

never used:
- rotten food as weapon
- empty ammo magazine as weapon
- girly mags
- microphone
- life sensor

what really turned things around for me playing through subsistence was realizing i could blow up ammo dumps and food storage rooms.. made things a LOT easier in later levels where you know you're going to have to fight

i honestly still never really got the hang of CQC - i snapped a few necks, interrogated and did the body shield stuff a few times but i think never threw a dude down once. they put so much emphasis on it in the dialogue, menu screen and instructions that i would have thought it would be much more integral but honestly if you get to the point where you're grabbing someone by the throat you might as well just blow him away with the shotgun

were the stairs in MGS1 too? that sounds really familiar.

MGS2 was pretty awful, I thought. Totally lost interest within four or five hours.

It's a toss-up between MGS1 and the original, for me.

Pretty sure there was a stairs section in MGS1 too, but a lot shorter/less dramatic. But I could easily be confusing it with another scene. MGS2 made a significant story point of how EVERYTHING IS THE SAME AGAIN, though, so it's likely something was there.

I loved MGS 2, but I love the crazy meta-game/story aspects of it all. The incomprehensible bullshit final chapter, fission mailed, all that stuff. Though I can also understand why that + Raiden would piss off a lot of gamers. MGS 1 is defintitely 'tighter' but I gotta give MGS2 credit for its sheer pompous ambition, and in many respects it's a better game. Those of you who didn't get to the end would likely still hate it, however.

Didn't even play Snake Eater, someday I'll pick up a PS2 for myself. *gulp* (I played MGS2 on a friend's box)

I loved MGS2 for the exact same reasons you mentioned, Nhex. I liked MGS3 a lot less while plaaying it, but in retrospect I might like it more?

snake eater's good, but even better with the subsistance version. the improved camera make all the difference.

MGS1 is the best of course. Best plot, best villains, best corny-but-awesome dialogue, best setting. MGS2 has an awesome game engine and plays like a dream though the plot is dopey as hell. I did like the effort to fuck around with the player's expectations a little, though.

I think MGS1 was the first time I've ever been emotionally invested in a game (unless you count being scared by the Resident Evils). It really renewed my faith in videogames.

Ha, 25-year-old roommate got misty-eyed when he got to the part where you find you've been double-crossed by the woman in MSG1!

I finally put MGS1 in for the first time a couple of nights ago. I think it really shows how amazingly fast the progress in graphics has been. It's weird to think that this game is only ten years old & how much more they can do visually just ten years later. It does make it little harder to play when I have the vision of MGS4 arriving shortly.

It's interesting though. Seems like a hard, trial by error type game. Walk ten feet, die, game over - okay I gotta figure out a different way to get there. It does make it a little frustrating, like to finally sneak past all the guys in the first room, make it to the elevator, then it tells you to hide again till the elevator arrives, hide successfully until the elevator shows up, run to it, only to discover a guy with a machine gun inside who kills you, game over. Also for the life of me, I couldn't figure out how to do the final VR mission :(

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/images/ngi/mgs1.jpg
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/images/ngi/mgs2.jpg

A $30 collection of all 3 MGS games in coming for PS2 in March.

... so the english fan translation of policenauts is out but I have no idea where to even start to get it running on my mac. : /

Metal Gear Solid 2 is the best...

its just the best mix of what makes MGS great. I can play that one over again and again.....

the graphics still stand up and that was 8 years ago.

I did actually mean MGS1 up there i.e. the part with the stairs. My writing and grammar is atrocious on this thread so far!

I think Snake Eater is the best. But I'm partial to games that take place outdoors.

cozwn I hear ya - PS1 emulators haven't been in development for Mac since pre-Intel :(

i had some amazon credit that was going to expire, so i ordered the metal gear hd collection (apparently all i want in a game lately is stealth, after deus ex and batman). which should i play first, mgs 2 or 3? never played either.

2 is not great. loooooong cutscenes, unlikable protagonist, lame setting.

3 is awesome. one of the best games for ps2. suffers from occasional cutscene overload but the setting, the bizarre gameplay systems, the boss battles, etc are all great. the camouflage is fun too--it persists into the cutscenes so the entire ending sequence featured snake in absurd kabuki makeup.

and the theme song. and then the joker track with the mg3 theme song sample becomes even more amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RadZTuZEKlM

but don't listen to that til you see it in the game

i'm gonna listen to it

i listened to it

you played yourself son

lol.

2 is not great. loooooong cutscenes, unlikable protagonist, lame setting.

i thought the mgs2 ship is supposed to be some classic shit? but i'll give 3 a shot first.

i played from start thru the 2nd vulcan raven fight in mgs1 yesterday. gonna beat that fucker tonight. feel a mgs marathon coming on. any opinions on acid or portable ops? have peacewalker via the HD collection.

i couldn't hang with mgs3. :( got too frustrated by the controls and either waiting forever or committing suicide every time the alarm sounded.

did you play mgs2 at all? i'm looking forward to rescreening it.

btw there is a cyborg ninja-themed action game coming out (with kojima "input" but made by the bayonetta/vanquish dudes) and it is called METAL GEAR RISING: REVENGEANCE

nope, although i have it on the HD disc now.

what are you playing the first one on?

ps3 via the ps1 classics thing. $10, kind of a lot for a game i've bought twice already but honestly i got more out of that $10 yesterday than i've gotten out of say skyrim. mgs1 rules though honestly i am not looking forward to the vulcan raven fight when i get home. the 2nd sniper wolf fight was already pretty frustrating. i'd forgotten what huge strides were taken, control- and content-wise, between 1 and 2 (and the gamecube remake). i keep wanting to hide bodies and look in lockers and aiming is impossible (hence sniper wolf nerdrage).

waiting for a good deal on the HD collection, i'd love to play 2 again after so many years. still have yet to play any of the games past Twin Snakes, though

snake eater has the best gameplay

I have MGS4 and never finished it for some reason! didn't get that far in. Maybe I'll restart it sometime soon, but I have the suspicion that means 45 minutes worth of exposition.

i've found MGS games have gotten more fun with the advent/widespread adoption of wifi etc as i can sit in front of the couch with my laptop and dick around on ilx or whatever while people in the game babble about foxdie etc.

also at the end of 2 many years ago during the 45 minute cutscene i just rested the dual shock on my balls and read a magazine. nice way to spend an afternoon.

oh hey i was wrong, mgs2 is in fact great. the part where snake is all sneaking around in the cargo hold of the tanker w/ all the marines and the commander dude has them stretching their necks and doing drills to prepare for intruders is fucking brilliant.

Played a little of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance tonight. OMFG. Easily the best MG game I have ever played. I tried the others and I just can't deal w the oblique control scheme. This is more like playing Contra. In fact, it's like playing the game you made up on the bus home from school w your BFF the day after playing NES Contra for the first time. My sole complaint is the music (generic techno/emo/electro/goth Rob Zombie remixing My Chemical Romance) but even when it's really cheesy, it adds to the Visual Kei flair of the whole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysBLfZhGWvQ

LOL. How is that not awesome, in a b-movie kind of way? This is Michael Bay X anime only you are the cinematographer and lead character. And your name is introduced (by the Prime Minister, in a limo) as Mr. Lightning Bolt. 20 minutes later, I am leaping from missile to missile (still in full control of the camera) and then on top of a giant robot that I slide down the entire length of (while more missiles shoot at me) (like in that Mission Impossible movie) while I slice him in half with my giant sword (which levitates and is electric for some reason). No action movie comes close to topping this.

Who needs Citizen Kane? This is video gaming's Die Hard.

The sense of humor is great, too. The game is ridiculously fast paced (hyper real) and you NEVER have to walk. If you want to walk, the key is the hard-to-reach "Tab" and it's so slow, it seems sarcastic.

revengeance rules. ground zeroes kinda does too, gross japanese stuff aside.

platinum games should be handed every franchise and allowed to go to town

MGRR is Contra X Ninja Gaiden

Ok now im somewhere neat/at the canals in Italy ninja-sword-fighting a bunch of Boba Fetts.

The 'slice the enemy into as many pieces as you can' trick never gets old because this game looks amazing, and having 200 individual glowing robot pieces floating in slow motion while you dice them is just....wow

Finally * FINALLY * made it past the title screen on Metal Gear Solid. The gameplay is pretty nice, but I really love the cutscenes. Every time the screen changes to the green skype of a surrealist military soap opera, I love it. The voice acting is the BEST EVER and they got the most grizzled colonel guy ever, he sounds so effing tough when he's telling you "Press the action button to go up a ladder"! I can already tell this game is going to rule, like first-person Japanese James Bond. Konami: where games about shadow military organizations come with more depth, drama, horror, philosophy, surrealist banter, poetry, special effects, one-liners, graphic design, and artistic integrity than the All-Time USA Box Office Top 10 combined.

Hah!

Make sure you use the comms as much as possible, even in the middle of boss fights, if you want to fully enjoy the skype drama.

i've been playing through 3; beat THE END the other day. i was following his muddy footprints up a hill when a sudden glint from his scope on a neighboring ledge made me drop prone and slither through grass up the rest of the hill, and just as i reached the crest a light rain whispered in, slowly. kinda transcendent.

mgs2 deserved a vote here; it may be the funniest game i've ever played.

going to take on the big daddy sahelanthropus this week when I get time. any tips? expecting this sucker to bomb my ass into oblivion a few times before I beat it

aim for the big pods on it

find the tank and the rocket launcher vehicle, tho you may still get jacked up

develop the most advanced RPG there is, the one that has multiple homing warheads

run around like an idiot

yessir

think I need to rerun a mission to get a materials engineer because I want to upgrade my armored suit

oh yeah you do probably want that

call in more ammo whenever you get a chance

bring that rocket launcher that shoots 6 at once.

yea that's the one i meant

look at this toy of snake wearing his crocodile cap from snake eater:
http://i.yai.bz/assets/GalleryImage/r_g0000000250_0_01.jpg
http://www.medicomtoystore.com/Resources/snake04.jpeg

this thing just keeps on going

just rescued hideo kojima yesterday, loving the advertisement for his signature glasses

there's no way in the game to find out where you get tech specialists other than looking at mission descriptions and interrogating randos, right? the only straightforward way is to look on the web. kind of ridiculous.

it'd be cool if you could tell Ocelot to scout for a sleeping gas specialist or w/e and after a couple outings he'd contact you with a lead

I'm guessing some of these dudes were ones I did extract in particular missions but didn't understand the direct contract system yet.

https://i.gyazo.com/decf1a1b58303ee3f795cbed8bc22455.gif

RIP Solidus :(

playing MGS3. i think it is my pick for the best one overall. there really is a mythical nature to all of the characters in this game. if they were to make a movie based on any of the games this one would be my pick.

just defeated The Fury. he is the Cobra member i think of the least, but the fight is pretty good and his intro/outro cinematics are so cool. i guess his backstory is that he was an early test astronaut? they start playing audio from a test flight right before he kills himself, engulfing himself in a ball of flame, thinking he is coming home to Earth. then he turns into a giant face made of fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhbjTvok1Fk

my fave's still 2 but yeah i love fury's patter. I CAME BACK FROM SPACE.

yeah no game has made me think im tripping like MGS2 has, but MGS3 is just the most solid all-around, and the level design has it beat.

Oscar Isaac To Star As Solid Snake In Sony’s ‘Metal Gear Solid’ Movie https://t.co/LEt48ZPl5C pic.twitter.com/2LmeO7KFjb

— Wario64 (@Wario64) December 4, 2020

this is either the best or worst news ever

i watched playthroughs of 1 and 2 bc i just straight up suck at these games, and i gotta say at this point i would vote for 2 which blew apart my tiny little mind

I was obsessed with MGS and played it many times, but never even tried the sequels. I'm worried they'd be a letdown.

I'm guessing the movie is going to be completely stripped of everything that makes the game so weird and magical.

oscar isaac spends the entire running time beneath a cardboard box

Play Phantom Pain. It came out too late to be polled here but it's just the best. And very nicely balanced, difficulty-wise (as I am also kind of shit wrt the old MGS games). See discussion upthread and, I'm sure, elsewhere on the board.

in a way i prefer ground zeroes. it’s almost like an arcade game. same layout +
tweaked objectives = totally different levels. you can do speed runs even.