How Many ILM Posters Ever Saw GG Allin Live?

well, quite. superb link. thanks!

Hahahahahahahaha.

so I have a queston...

did the dude like eat bran muffins all day or something? I mean who shits THAT MUCH? Every story I read about him involves shit. I knew it was a part of his performance, but he managed to sound check it too?!?

I never saw him and narrowly missed a bad experience. He played a club where I had been sound guy about a month after I quit. Part of the job involved putting away the mics at the end of the night, and in this case, the vocal mic had evidently been in his ass by that point. Ew. I also wouldn't want to the singer for the band playing there the following night.

No, but he did "Road Trip" and "Old School." Todd Phillips - he also did a documentary on frat guys that was supposed to be great but went unaired after HBO buried it when they learned that Phillips crossed some "ethical lines" during a hazing ceremony. I have always meant to look for a bootleg of that film. Anyway, yeah, I guess he's an old punk rocker.
He was recently in the trades for clashing with Sascha Baron Cohen and getting booted as the director of the "Borat" movie.

Oh, the mic-in-the-ass reminds me of the part in "Hated" where he gets brought in to NYU by some eager students on the program board. His entire appearance consists of him walking out naked and shoving a banana up his asshole. People run screaming; end of "speaking engagement." Genius.

My favorite moment in "Hated" is when the narrator says, in a completely deadpan monotone: "GG had some of the most devoted fans in the world," as a still photo of a guy with a passed-out GG's dick in his mouth comes on the screen.

This was ridiculous. Anyone else see this recently? It's on Pitchfork.tv this week.

I've not seen Hated and was a little young to have been able to see him live, but my favorite GG story comes from an interview I read in the early 90s (I believe it was in Alternative Press). The interviewer and GG were having a seemingly (atypical?) intelligent and well-mannered exchange about GG's craft during which he, without warning or provocation, got up from his barstool, urinated on it, and sat back down on it, continuing the conversation as if nothing had happened.

My favorite moment in "Hated" is when the narrator says, in a completely deadpan monotone: "GG had some of the most devoted fans in the world," as a still photo of a guy with a passed-out GG's dick in his mouth comes on the screen.

Who said that was their fave moment? I couldn't find it on the site. Also, what's so ridiculous about it?

he managed to sound check it too?!?

LOL

Also, what's so ridiculous about it?

Well, if memory serves, the snapshot that they cut to depicts one of GG's fans smiling into the camera and giving a thumbs up while performing fellatio on GG, who is passed out cold. Under utterly deadpan narration about his "loyal fans."

I'm still confused. Given GG Allin's polymorphous perversity, isn't that just par for the course?

Levels of devotion (low to high):

- buying tour t-shirt at gig
- searching high & low for 7" and imports and promo materials
- attending 3 or more shows during the same tour in different states
- cyberstalking forums, blogs, etc. whenever your favorite artist is discussed in an unflattering manner
- sucking off said artist when the artist is conscious
- sucking off said artist when the artist is passed out

Devotion? Absolutely. Ridiculousness? Um, we ARE talking about GG Allin here, correct?

I think the guy that's got the dick in his mouth is the "riduculous" part of the equation, but keep on posting about this, because someone's sure to agree with you eventually.

Well, the reason I "keep on posting about this" is because when I saw a preview screening of Hated (with Phillips in attendance) the ONLY shot that elicited genuine shock from the markedly "avant" audience was that one. They greeted everything else with yuks and ews. But that show generated a lower toned "ohhhhhh" like a bunch of blue-haired biddies with their sense of propriety rocked.

So don't kid yourself that it had anything to do with Allin being passed out. They were appalled because they were seeing a man with a dick in his mouth. A crack whore pissing in Allin's mouth while he barfs up hot dogs? That's good times. But m2m fellatio? This will not stand!

And I suspect the same thing is happening here.

But gee, sorry to take up your precious time with it.

Everyone's a homophobe but you, dude. Congrats.

(Astonished by Kevin's post. Actually gobsmacked).

gg allin sucks

no, his fans do

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i112/Johnny_Utah26/Stuff/RIMSHOT.jpg

i was just dating this girl until she told me she made out with mearl once... i was like "did he have the hitler moustache at the time?!?!" she said "yes."

fuckin deal breaker, man.

well i watched this tonight, i liked it.

the dude w/ dick in mouth was no big deal, honestly. i'm surprised they didn't try to get a little more clarity on gg's ambiguous sexuality but i guess maybe counter to the film's "philosophy" and maybe he just couldn't get anything good out of gg on the subject?

also the people in the hometown were pretty hilarious. the "high school buddy" who shows up for an interview in a motorcycle jacket and aviators. the guitarist who dropped out of gg's band and comes across like a total moron. and some of them were downright scary, like the creepy high school teacher and the naked drummer.

I watched the movie again with my wife last night, and I can be seen, very briefly, two or three times during the Space at Chase footage: once when they pan the crowd, and once walking out the door immediately after the show, and possibly one more time when GG is running around inside performing. I have no memory of owning the hat I'm wearing, but my wife says she remembers it.
-- pdf (Phil Freeman),

^^ hero status!!!!

which one are you?!?!?

Watched him through the window at O'Cayz in Madison for long enough to see him piss on the window.

so is this internet version of the documentary abridged or something? i didn't see a lot of what they were talking about in that review.

Everyone's a homophobe but you, dude. Congrats.

You didn't even post on this particular aspect of the film, pdf. So I'm wondering why you're getting so nervous...

the dude w/ dick in mouth was no big deal, honestly.

Thank you!

i'm surprised they didn't try to get a little more clarity on gg's ambiguous sexuality but i guess maybe counter to the film's "philosophy"

THANK YOU!

(genuine thanks; no sarcasm)

Kevin, I doubt people were so appauled by man-on-man action. The more likely scenaro is that no matter whether one is gay or straight or somewhere in between, the idea of GG's nasty cock in one's mouth is repulsive, as the man was a filthy walking compost heap. And your "blue hair biddies" comment is ageist.

Never saw GG, but it always irritated me how, on talk shows in the '80s at the height of the PMRC nonsense, they'd have GG on--this pathetic, blathering idiot--to represent the side of free speech.

>You didn't even post on this particular aspect of the film, pdf.

Because it barely registered with me at the time. You, on the other hand, seem somewhat fixated.

>So I'm wondering why you're getting so nervous...

What's to be nervous about, Mr. Armchair Psychologist? I'm just laughing at your screechy monomania.

You diagnose me with monomania and yet you're not an Armchair Psychologist yourself? Okay.

The more likely scenaro is that no matter whether one is gay or straight or somewhere in between, the idea of GG's nasty cock in one's mouth is repulsive,

I'd buy that if the tone of the audience hadn't changed so decidedly. And yeah, the biddies comment was shitty of me.

But get back to the music, maaaaaaan (never mind that the music matters less here than it does with Milli Vanilli).

I had a chance to see him in Chicago. The club was called Exit or The Exit. I even want to say I remember the day - Jan. 5 (forget the year). Sadly, I didn't get to go because I couldn't find anyone to drive me into the city from the burbs in inclement weather (and to go see GG Allin).

But I did take a leak in a bathroom in which Allin reportedly asked a girl to piss in a cup so he could drink it.

I've seen a little on tee vee...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LvZd_9aMU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-hR9G1ZO6Q

Whatever happened to Jane Whitney????

"I might rape the guys..."

saw him at the cat club ca. '87 -- gerard cosloy and j mascis in the band. g.g. ate a lot of ex-lax before the show, hurled poop into the audience. even though i was in the back in a ridiculous jean jacket, i later discovered a splotch of brown stuff on the back of the jacket.

shoulda saved it -- i'm sure gg's poop would fetch a lot on ebay nowadays.

ohh, and the show was okay.

gerard cosloy and j mascis in the band.

wha????

I used to have a copy of maximum r&r or somesuch magazine with an interview with mascis where he recounts playing for Allin's band.

How Many ILM Posters Ever Saw GG Allin Dead?

Person in talk show audience: GG, you are no good!

GG: I am the greatest! You suck!

x50

Roll credits.

Thurston Moore was in that Cat Club lineup, too. I was too scared to go.

still waiting for instructions on spotting phil freeman

The more likely scenaro is that no matter whether one is gay or straight or somewhere in between, the idea of GG's nasty cock in one's mouth is repulsive

I can't believe I actually have to explain this, but the humor in that scene comes from the fact that the narrator is casually mentioning G.G. having a devoted fanbase, which (as David R. illustrated quite humorously), one might usually take to mean obsessive collectors, or even Beatlemania-style screamers, but in fact is illustrated with a matter-of-fact snapshot of a smiling fan giving a thumbs up while blowing this filthy, gnarly scumbag, who is passed out. One assumes sexuality has nothing at all to do with this scenario (I actually don't recall any point in the film where G.G.'s sexuality is explored at all, but it's been ages since I saw it) - it's just another moment of crusty shock; the gutter punk version of frat house pictures of guys drawing on their passed out friends' faces, maybe.

I have no problem at all with guys blowing each other - I'm all for it.
The scene is OBVIOUSLY played for laughs through the contrast between the narration and the visual. Maybe you could argue against the director's intentions, but not with fucking ME for thinking that it's hilarious.

Actually, you DO have to explain. Or rather, ONE has to explain. This portion of the thread started because Stephen called that scene "ridiculous." (And actually, what exactly was ridiculous is unclear. Was it the scene or the comment about the scene?) That's it - just "ridiculous" which can mean MANY things.

Yes, of course, I get the humor of the scene (and David R.'s illustration). I think it's funny too. So more power to ya for being all for guys blowing each other and thinking that the scene is hilarious. I applaud both realities. Seriously.

But yet again (gee Phil, guess my monomania was justified after all), in a sold out auditorium of people watching that scene, not a single person laughed even though they had been laughing at everything else up until that point. The scene is indeed obviously played for laughs. And yet...

So one might assume "sexuality has nothing at all to do with this scenario" (not me, though). But it sure had everything to do with that particular response. And ALL I was trying to do was figure out if that "ridiculous" comment was a species of same.

I saw GG in Detroit and I fled to the back of the room just like everyone else when the poo started to fly.

I think I escaped poo-free, but who knows? Geeg also tossed a bunch of hardware around, which was quite a bit more frightening.

The funniest part about the show was that some guy with a fro came out before GG and sang 2 or 3 punkish songs to many boos before he fessed up and taunted the audience with "do you REALLY want GG ALLIN???"

This portion of the thread started because Stephen called that scene "ridiculous." (And actually, what exactly was ridiculous is unclear. Was it the scene or the comment about the scene?) That's it - just "ridiculous" which can mean MANY things.

I can't believe I'm having to clarify this, either... but by "ridiculous" i obviously meant "ridiculously funny" and Savannah Smiles summed up the inherent humor perfectly a few posts up.

Does that help, Kevin?

I read about GG on wikipedia today and I'm rather highly ashamed I know more trivia about him than I do about, well, any other random fucking person ever born, as in "I know about 0 facts about some random person from oklahoma" vs "I know a couple of things about GG Allin" = is there a bullet in that gun can I put it in my mouth

As bad as I feel about reading his wikipedia page though I can still feel superior to you sad, sad imbeciles with nothing better to do than watch a fucking documentary about this dude

Having now watched the documentary on PTV and (browsed) the YouTube clips linked above, I was wondering if anyone could clarify: Did GG ever actually rape anyone onstage, as he claims in the Springer clip? I find this very hard to believe, as it seems violent intervention would have been inevitable before he would have gotten even close to penetration. I would assume he's just full of bluster about the rape thing, but the clips from the doc of him randomly assaulting both men and women have me curious.

CKY has covered "Bite it You Scum"

misread that as CSNY for a second there

say what you want about GG musically, but "gimme some head" is one damn catchy tune

all the early stuff I've heard with the Jabbers is great. some of my favourite punk tunes.

also, even the pre-Jabbers material. are Love Tunnel, Lover's Triangle and 1980's Rock n Roll pre-Jabbers? those tracks are almost unrecognisable from later stuff.

The Scumfucs era is pretty good too IMO, after that it all goes to shit lol see what I did there

Anyone know where we can find dave q's awesome post about that SF show, referenced way up top? I remember being very entertained by that, I think it was on another thread.

As a followup local postscript...he is buried over in Littleton N.H. right on Vermont border...I think that is the name of the town tho I could be wrong...one of the little local papers runs a story every six months or so about "fans" of his doing odd things at his grave...leaving odd shit around, bothering the other graves ect ect...

personally, I never minded the guy...I just thought he was most likely a schizophrenic...common enough problem really...

all goes to shit lol see what I did there

Yes I did see, Colonel Poo...

"leaving odd shit around"

as opposed to even.

If GG had been a computer programmer, it would have been bytes of shit.

Seriously one of the best punk songs ever, if you ask me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqOnYaVdosA

I attended, purely to see what was there. It was memorable! Certainly it wasn't for everyone.

Inspired by this thread, just watched "Hated." His pee-pee was tiny.

I mean, I've seen newborns with bigger pee-pees. I think this may have been the source of G.G.'s rage.

i've heard it was because of cocaine use.

Tell that to John Holmes.
All the piss, shit and blood in Hated and everyone just remembers GG's mini-dick. What a legacy.

also there seem to be stories about him cutting off the tip, though I'm sure you'd be able to tell from pics whether that is true.

another thing: if he was so pissed about that, why would he make sure everyone knew about it?

I'm joking, kids.

I thought it was a good doc but the director's comment at the end, something along the lines, "I'd hoped GG Allin would have died in a more spectacular fashion, on stage suicide taking five fans with him, instead he died like a typical rock star" was enraging. What a FUCKING STUPID thing to say. Yeah, it would have been so much better if he'd taken five people with him. What a load.

tbf he did specify "GG Allin fans"

and less people just is less people

The 50-minute bonus footage was incredible, especially the very clean cut guy in a sort of raincoat who kept following GG around and sticking his fingers up GG's shitty asshole.