to live & shave in L.A. what are they up to?

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haha!!!

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

what a greta thread.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

great/meta = greta

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

wow. can't believe my old band was even acknowledged on this thread...

Russ, Thursday, 29 January 2004 19:20 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
TLAS = NO FUN FEST

Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:32 (twenty years ago) link

Anybody in south Florida should come check out the International Noise Conference this weekend.
There are a few Smackshire-related bands playing.

http://www.the-beach.net/~thelaundryroom/inc.htm

Russ, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
"To those who loved noise artists To Live and Shave in L.A., their self-imposed hiatus in 2000 was like losing ''Che'' Guevara in the Deep Forest of Unrestrained Sound. Rebellious, socially barbed, and deceptively chaotic, their audaciousness made them a torchbearer for the often overlooked genre. But grieve no longer -- the band is back together. Miami's Rat Bastard, Atlanta-based vocalist/poet Tom Smith, and musician/producer Don Fleming -- who has worked with Sonic Youth, Hole, and Teenage Fan Club -- played their first show back together last month at the No Fun Festival in Brooklyn, a gathering of the rock ultra-underground. Add guitarist Mark Morgan and oscillator operator Ben Walcott, card carrying TLSLA members who will perform on an as-available basis, and you have one of the most insane collectives of musical deviants known to man.

The band will be releasing a new album called God and Country Rally later this year on Smack Shire Records. The 10-song CD was recorded before they took their vacation in 2000, but considering the album title, it could have been written and recorded last month. Just another reminder of the prescient qualities that make TLSLA such a fun and often surprising listen."

Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, 9 May 2004 03:42 (twenty years ago) link

New drummer is apparently...

Andrew W.K.

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 9 May 2004 04:24 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
Lineup for To Live and Shave in LA:

Andrew WK,Don Fleming,Mark Morgan(sightings), and the Shave founders Tom Smith and Rat Bastard


WAAAAAAAAAA!

George W. ILX (ex machina), Monday, 26 July 2004 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Holy shit. Weird. Link?

Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

sonic youth board

Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link

i've heard similar rumblings via other channels. should be great/grate.

m.

msp, Monday, 26 July 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.smackshire.com/event_tour.htm

brock (brock), Monday, 26 July 2004 20:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Sept 15 Rochester, NY @ The Bug Jar

WOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOO

Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Monday, 26 July 2004 20:43 (nineteen years ago) link

*TO LIVE AND SHAVE IN L.A.:

Rat Bastard - Quad Mixer, etc.
Don Fleming - Guitar, Synth, Vox, etc.
Mark Morgan - Guitar, Vox, etc.
Tom Smith - Vox, Laptop, etc.
Andrew W.K. - Drums, Vox, etc.

Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Monday, 26 July 2004 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

yo, brock can you link that AWK jpeg you sent me?

Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Sept 16 Northampton, MA @ The Flywheel

WOOO HOOO HOOO HOOOO!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link


Hey Jon,

Yeah, it's gonna be Pengo and Foot & Mouth Disease opening for TLASILA @ the bug Jar on Wed. Sept. 15th.
Gonna be totally insane!!!! Should be a sell out due to Andrew W.K. playing with 'em so tell people to get there early.

Yeah, August is gonna be crazy. Hair Police 3 times next week.

Pengo is playing in Brooklyn on Saturday @ North Six too!!

John.

yaaaaaaaaay

Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Is Tom Smith ever gonna reissue that xex CD?

mike a, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Damn. I may be in NY for one of these.

dean? (deangulberry), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
The Smack Shire - the label run by Gerard Klauder and Tom Smith - are reissuing the amazing 1980 "group:Xex" album in September, 2004!
It contains the original vinyl album's ten tracks, plus five bonus demos culled from Xex's own archive. This is gonna be GREAT!

Klauder and Smith also record under the "Memories of Underdevelopment" moniker; their debut CD, "Throat of a Black Kitten," which will be released in the autumn by Menlo Park Recordings.

xexfanperson, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Heard a track by Xex on 'FMU last week. Sounded way cool. I'm looking forward to this release! Is there a "Smack Shire" URL? Oh, wait, never mind, my roommate has it... Ha!! Yes, this one I'll probably buy. Really rad pre-tech synth rock... Are there comparisons I could look into?

Laura Webb, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I penned some ink for the press bio fro the Xex reissue for Tom -- he actually found that record in our wall while he was doing some fill-in shows back in 1999...glad it's finally coming out, it's great. Dark new-no wave from NJ!

TLISILA are slated to play on my show 9/21 as well, it should be a barn-burner!!

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Mr. Turner! Wow, I love WMFU sooo much. Thank you for years of greatness.

Tom Smith was a DJ at 'FMU? Really? What kind of stuff did he play? How long was he on the air? And how did the Xex album get lost in your library?

Laura Webb, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, the Xex lp is still there, played it last week...

Tom DJ'd for about 6 months, before he moved back south. Late night -- fun shows, his distinctive commentary. I don't think they're archived though on the site- it was before we were doing that full-time.

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Thursday, 12 August 2004 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

"Tom DJ'd for about 6 months, before he moved back south. Late night -- fun shows, his distinctive commentary. I don't think they're archived though on the site- it was before we were doing that full-time."

Pity... Well, word has it he's a drifter at heart. As for 'FMU, that just tells me how cool a place must be. You've had so many distinguished voices in your line-up over the last decade... Very suave.

Laura Webb, Thursday, 12 August 2004 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link

if you like xex, maybe Los Microwaves? a bit more new wave rock but good quirky american synth stuff .

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 16 August 2004 09:16 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Finally got my hands on the xex reissue. I'm now itching to track down those rumored demos for the aborted second album.

mike a, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

He's done a lot since, of course, but might as well revive here -- sadly, Chris Grier has passed on

http://www.wonderingsound.com/news/chris-grier-to-live-shave-la-died/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 July 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link

Chris was an amazing person. RIP.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 11 July 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link

Shitty news, can't really believe it. I worked with him at the Virginian-Pilot newspaper in Norfolk VA. He was a good dude. I was a barely passable guitar player and he was full of encouragement always, even pushed me to play a short improv gig with him once that cleared out the front room of a local bar, haha. Also when the O Brother Where Art Thou soundtrack was getting popular he tracked down James Carter and ended up getting him a royalty check for his chain-gang song ... the article Chris wrote about it doesn't seem to be online but he's the "Florida investigative reporter" in this Times piece.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/03/us/an-ex-convict-a-hit-album-an-ending-fit-for-hollywood.html

dmr, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link

seven years pass...

I’m sad to report that Tom Smith has passed.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 20 January 2022 23:48 (two years ago) link

I posted this on Facebook a bit ago.

The summer of 1998 fell between my junior and senior years of college, and for some reason or other I decided to rent a room in an apartment in town and work at the campus library - where I usually worked during the academic year - for three months. Summers on the Maryland Eastern Shore are brutal, muggy, buggy. I was neither prepared for that nor for how bored and empty it would all feel with so many friends gone. When not wandering around town or at work a lot of time was spent listening to CDs.

This was almost 24 (!) years ago, so specifics are hazy, but three stand out. One was Adore, by the Smashing Pumpkins. Another was Terraform, by Shellac. (Chicago represent.) Those were store purchases. But then there was another record.

At the time I was freelancing for a Chicago-area print music magazine called Tail Spins that usually didn't pay in currency or, I guess, the currency was promos. Some familiar, some kinda obscure, some totally bizarre and random. Brent (who may be reading this) would just ship his writers a tennis-shoe box of CDs and tapes with a note that said "hey, review as many of these as you want." And I got a tennis-shoe box at that apartment that summer. God only knows what was in that box for the most part. But there was one particular, crudely designed cardboard sleeve that stood out. The title was an extended taunt. The band name was a regal dare. I threw the disc into the platter and wasn't sure whether I was having a stroke or the band making the music was sharing a collective stroke. This was sound beyond comprehension or logic or propriety and, instinctively, I didn't crank it up, because I didn't want the other people living in the apartment to freak out. Sure, I'd heard noisy music before, but this wasn't Sonic Youth or a Sonic Youth tour opener - this shit was cracked. Something changed inside of me and while a few years would go by before the time came to commit to the genre in a more meaningful way this record became a personal talisman; in late 2021, when I was toying with a book proposal (scrapped for now) about formative personal noise experiences, the record was among the first lodestones that sprung to mind.

That record was titled Where A Horse Has Been Standing and Where You Belong. The band was named To Live and Shave in L.A.

A lot of people have been in that band. One of the most important, Tom Smith, has passed away.

I never met Tom in person, so those sorts of anecdotes aren't mine to share. But he and I chatted so frequently on Facebook that it felt like I met him. (How and why did we connect? I don't know.) The messages remain in the guts of this platform. What did we talk about? We talked about life, and music, and goals, and politics - and the mighty Sightings, who he collaborated with. It was always amazing to me both how positive he was about creation, how sunny and forward-looking and how he was constantly working and creating and collaborating. I'd order an album or two from him by mail and he'd stuff the parcel with extra magic - a lot of it sprawled out on my dresser upstairs.

In the summer of 2018, TLASILA came to perform in Baltimore. I was psyched to meet Tom, he was psyched to meet me. The show took place the same day as a massive "Families Belong Together" public action in Patterson Park. I'd planned to go to the protest, go home and cool down, then hit the show - but the emotion of the day wiped me out, and I apologized for not seeing the band live. He took it well and I figured, hey, there will always be another time, right? Another tour and another show. There's always that feeling that tomorrow's there for us inevitably but no - not every time.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 21 January 2022 00:50 (two years ago) link

RIP, this guy was an true original

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:46 (two years ago) link

Think I saw him in Peach of Immortality in DC once. Was away at school though when they opened for Husker Du. RIP

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 January 2022 05:03 (two years ago) link

ugh, cancer .

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 January 2022 05:05 (two years ago) link

holy shit. we were not worthy. ;_;

massaman gai (front tea for two), Friday, 21 January 2022 05:30 (two years ago) link

yeah POI was my introduction to his work. He also used to have an amazing MP3 blog with rips of these insanely rare Aktionist LPs from the 70s.

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Friday, 21 January 2022 05:48 (two years ago) link

I hosted him, Rat, and TLASILA for a show in 2008(?) ... he was super funny and clever and gracious ... we all went for late night sushi after the gig. Last week was Bruce Anderson. This week it's Tom ... I feel like I'm getting to the age where it's a steady stream of death, and staying alive is actually an accomplishment

sarahell, Friday, 21 January 2022 06:49 (two years ago) link

<3

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Friday, 21 January 2022 07:07 (two years ago) link

I saw TLASILA once when the band I was in played a show with them, which I am not exactly sure how it got lined up, there were some distant connections (we knew some of the same people) but mostly they were on tour and we were on tour and in the same place.

No one in my band cared and I don't think anyone in Shave cared for us, but I did, even if I wasn't a complete stan, I had a bunch of records and obv knew who Tom was through yrs of collecting noise tapes, zines interviews, I knew the history (Boat Of, POI, Pussy Galore, SY connects, etc), he was the man.

And he was very sweet and funny and charismatic. I was sort of embarrassed at the time cuz they were cool noise dudes and we were a "rock" band and it seemed like there was this gulf between us, a gulf I am pretty sure only really existed in my mind becuz when I think back on it does seem sort of like an inspired pairing.

Anyway, we played and then TLASILA played & I didn't really know what to expect, I knew they played live but wasn't sure what it would be (and maybe they didn't either). This was spring 07, about a week before the WNUR session that is on Youtube. It was this really sleazy bar in Nashville that we had played before, lots of local weirdos and drunks and drug-addled combinations thereof, this might have been one the times I got into a fight with an audience member & one of guitarists tackled this guy and played the rest of the show sitting on his chest and if it wasn't it gives of a sense of the vibe at least.

So...TLASILA starts. It is kind of a blur but they were more rock, way more show then I was expecting, Tom singing, bellowing, swaying on the mic, Rat doing, whatever fucking thing he does, it was loud, huge, sweaty, ecstatic, loud, like being trapped in a orgone box with people fucking, it was loud, did I mention that? Just fantastic, total noise, but not like a lot of super-serious noise-table stuff or even kind of that RISD-adjacent east coast mask rock stuff, this was chaotic and wild but it was a "show", a performance, it was funny and entertaining and life-affirming and weird! All of sudden there were these beautiful girls onstage, where they in the band?, hanging on Tom and screaming into the mic and I was like "where they hell did they come from?" I wonder if I hallucinated it? Maybe the music tricked my brain? Anyway it was great. There were like 50 people total and no one in my band ever mentioned the show again and maybe it didn't even happen I think about it all the time.

Thanks for all the great music Tom and thanks for the enduring memory of you being drenched in sweat sitting on some noise-generating box with a scantily-clad woman on your knee crooning in that voice into the microphone under a spotlight like a debauched Sinatra.

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 21 January 2022 14:40 (two years ago) link

it was loud, huge, sweaty, ecstatic, loud, like being trapped in a orgone box with people fucking, it was loud, did I mention that?

yeah, that was the vibe at the show I put on for them. This was when Weasel was living here, so one of his free jazz groups opened, with this dude visiting from Philly, and then he sat in with TLASILA (Weasel, not the Philly dude, but the Philly dude went out for sushi with me, Weasel, Weasel's wife, Tom, Rat and ... one other person who I forget ...

All of sudden there were these beautiful girls onstage, where they in the band?, hanging on Tom and screaming into the mic and I was like "where they hell did they come from?"

ha, probably connections w/Rat and his many INC tours w/Squelchers that are basically him and hot local chicks.

sarahell, Friday, 21 January 2022 18:42 (two years ago) link

That's what I assumed but in the context of the night they just...appeared out of think air, it was magical

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 21 January 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link

RIP to a wild visionary.

There aren't a ton of clips on youtube, but this Miami cable access TV appearance from 1994 is priceless:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPVxSjSmlbk

Unfortunately the performance is brief and the goofy-ass host Doesn't Get It. Tom had such a deep, rich speaking voice, could have done movie trailer voiceovers.

J. Sam, Friday, 21 January 2022 21:51 (two years ago) link

RIP Tom Smith

Only familiar with the TLASILA stuff but I openly lol-ed realising one of the POI albums is called Talking Heads ‘77

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 22 January 2022 01:34 (two years ago) link

that was the first one I heard <3

thanks so much for that video clip above, fantastic

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Saturday, 22 January 2022 01:40 (two years ago) link


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