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I know, I can't wait! Sunshine, disco, and foliage, how can you go wrong?

Re the question: I like some of their songs, but not that many. When they're on, they're a breed apart, but I certainly can't listen to a side all the way through.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 July 2003 03:31 (twenty years ago) link

five months pass...
Listening to XTC's "1000 Umbrellas" and thinking it reminds me of Sparks' "Here Comes Bob".

dleone (dleone), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:44 (twenty years ago) link

VERY interesting. I'm going to have to relisten to "Here Comes Bob" and think about that!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago) link

I like "Rhythm Thief" but overall I think Lil' Beethovenflops. The songs aren't fully formed, more like fragments, and Ron's lyrical themes are totally played out to the point of being embarassing. The gimmick of the string arrangements diverts for a while, but doesn't carry the album. Sparks are still classic, but their discography is wildly inconsistant.

Sean (Sean), Sunday, 11 January 2004 00:07 (twenty years ago) link

This is my fave unheralded pop surrealist miniature.

"Nicotina"

Not every cigarette is a dead, dead thing
Some have a mind and try to be other things
Pushed in the pack, they crave some Virginia air
Softly, they pray to someone, but life ain't fair

They're born to lose
They're born to fill
The lungs of Jack
The lungs of Jill
And like I said
Life just isn't fair

Nicotina, Nicotina, Nicotina is her name

Once in a while a cigarette has a name
N-I-C-O-T-I-N-A, that's her name
She had a tiny voice, and she sang all day
She was a cigarette, but she loved to play

Nicotina, Nicotina, Nicotina is her name

A man with a cough
Stepped to the machine
Dropped coins in the slot
The end of a dream

He ripped the pack and coughed, and then coughed again
Popped out a cigarette, and we're near the end
She screamed and screamed but so much was filtered out
Now Nicotina's only a tiny cloud

Nicotina's gone, but life goes on though
Nicotina's gone, but life goes on though
Nicotina's gone, but life goes on and on and on and on and on
Nicotina, Nicotina, Nicotina was her name

Ian Grey (Ian_G), Sunday, 11 January 2004 08:02 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
And another revive to celebrate the upcoming show on Saturday in LA, which should be good fun. Arthur and Thea and I will be gathering with other Sparks maniacs beforehand, and you're welcome to join!

An acquaintance, Michelle who helps run Marc Almond's website, has a slew of enjoyable photos from the recent London show up here:

http://www.beyondthedarkroom.co.uk/

Click on 'Stage' and then follow the links.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 April 2004 00:05 (twenty years ago) link

who's gonna see 'em in SF tonight? i hate you!

ken taylrr, Friday, 9 April 2004 16:03 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, shaddup Ned :)

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

*whistles idly* Living in their hometown area has its benefits. This'll be my fifth show in six years!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago) link

I put Sparks in the same category as Suede and Marianne Faithful;
the music may have merit but I can't get past the vocals.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 9 April 2004 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

Ron Mael walked up to me backstage at the Whiskey one time and looks all fretful, but, for a moment, doesn't say anything.

I say the early 80s version of Whassup and he scretches his chin, tells me in his late thirties, and he's worried that he isn't married yet. "Am I weird or something?" he asks.

Ian Grey (Ian_G), Friday, 9 April 2004 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

Sparks rule!!!!!! I just found the Tips for Teens 12". Perfect. Andrew WK is a total Sparks head. Listen to Kimono My House and Indiscreet then put on I Get Wet. It all makes sense.

Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Saturday, 10 April 2004 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

That's actually a brilliant comparison! (Now if I only liked Andrew WK.)

I was happy to let Sean in SF know about their show tonight via chat -- he got all excited because he didn't know about that beforehand, and is at the venue now! Hope he has a good time.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 April 2004 02:12 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, and Ian's story rules.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 April 2004 02:12 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks--And it's written entirely in TypoScript.

Ian Grey (Ian_G), Saturday, 10 April 2004 13:11 (twenty years ago) link

Recently discovered 'The Japanese Have Come And They Bought My Number One' by the Maels. Only available on The Hell Collection but it's fantastic. From the early 90s, about a rich businessman stealing R. Mael's girlfriend from him, complete with a killer chorus. I'm sharing it on Ssk if anyone's interested.

Ian SPACK (Ian SPACK), Saturday, 10 April 2004 13:27 (twenty years ago) link

The Hell Collection

A fine disc, that, as you can see here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 April 2004 13:46 (twenty years ago) link

Out of curiosity, what are Ron and Russell's marital statuses these days? I can't imagine them ever dating anyone ever, just sitting at home bringing cups of tea for each other and eyeballing Morrissey over the garden fence. Having said that, a good percentage of their songs are bitter little ditties about other guys getting girls and not our heroes. Ned, you're the oracle, what's the scandal?

Ian SPACK (Ian SPACK), Saturday, 10 April 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link

Their private life is just that! I have a couple of odd suppositions here and there but pretty much they've got their comfy Hollywood Hills home and whatever goes on...goes on.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 April 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

Aw, I'm glad really. My idyllic view of them remains.

Ian SPACK (Ian SPACK), Saturday, 10 April 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

a) am I the only one who has heard/owns the Ron and Russell produced disco 12" Dancing is Dangerous by Noel on Virgin?

and if not, b) am th only one who thinks there is no such person as Noel and the song is just Russell singing in a low voice then sped up? Even the picture of "noel" on the label is questionable...I swear it could be Russell!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 10 April 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

Spent the last two days listening to an awesome 17 minute version of this song, can't believe I've never heard of it before. Dan, thanks a dozen times for bringing it to my attention. I think you're right with reckoning it's Russell. What year was it released? As ever, I'm sharing it on slsk.

Also, 'We Are The Clash'. That's quite good too. I swear this band can never step a foot wrong.

Affectian (Affectian), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:36 (twenty years ago) link

! I must know more about this.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:41 (twenty years ago) link

Which one? I can email either to you as mp3, though be warned 'Dancing is dangerous' is huge at 15mb (though I have a shorter 8mb version if that's any better).

I don't know if 'We are the Clash' has been discussed already but it's from a recent issue of Uncut, part of the Clash-tribute cover cd, and so it's very nu-Sparks. Big clean sharp sound and well worth hearing. 'Dancing is dangerous' is set to be my big 'weekend song' for the next few months, I can tell. Really, everyone should hear this - interested parties should email me.

Affectian (Affectian), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:50 (twenty years ago) link

Send either song as an e-mail over the weekend, it'll be easy enough for me to download it at home -- and thanks!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 April 2004 03:11 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
I just read on the Redd Kross website that their doing Kimono My House in it's entirety at Morrissey's Meltdown, plus a couple of b-sides! And Steven McDonald is playing bass! I guess they gave in to Morrissey's demands after all.

Arthur (Arthur), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, they're also doing the new album too, so it's a bit of then and now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 04:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I just recently got into Sparks after randomly downloading a live "Amateur Hour" on 70's TV from Soulseek and being transfixed. I love "Kimono My House"!!

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
New album Hello Young Lovers out early next year, a track "Waterproof" is starting to circulate -- crappy quality mp3 but the song itself sounds a treat, mixing the orchestral conceits of Li'l Beethoven with a bit of classic glam era guitar crunch near the end.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 04:14 (eighteen years ago) link

And here's more info:

Here is the track list for "Hello Young Lovers":

"Dick Around"
"Perfume"
"The Very Next Fight"
"(Baby Baby) Can I Invade Your Country?"
"Rock, Rock, Rock"
"Metaphor"
"Waterproof"
"Here Kitty"
"There's No Such Thing As Aliens"
"When I Sit Down To Play the Organ at the Notre Dame Cathedral"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Lil Beethoven really is one of my favourite record of the last years, so I'm really looking forward for this new one.

snowballing (snowballing), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

the kings of cheeky songtitles.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i heard tips for teens on the radio today i loved it.

howell huser (chaki), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

don't eat that burger
has it got mayonnaise?
GIVE IT TO ME

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

(Baby Baby) Can I Invade Your Country?

I love this record already.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's a great title. Here's hoping the lyrics live up to it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

any chance of TSIs of the Noel single or the video of "Amateur Hour" re-apperaing on this fine, noble page?
i recall as a young lad seeing them on SNL (dunno the songs) and it was at least another decade before the wtf? of them seeped into me.
seeing them in Central Park was truly a treat.

b8a, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Got a better mp3 of "Waterproof" and it's just great -- I'd go so far as to say this is one of their best songs ever. HILARIOUS lyrics.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 04:38 (eighteen years ago) link

(Baby Baby) Can I Invade Your Country?

That reminds me of the Scott Walker line (well, Jacques Brel in translation via Scott Walker):

A ring on every finger
A finger in every country

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 04:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Press release on the album plus cover and, but of course, new great photo of the two:

ihttp://www.noblepr.co.uk/Press_Releases/gut/images/sparks/ss1_sml.jpg

For the tour, looks like they'll be doing the Li'l Beethoven thing where the concert will have the first half be the new album in its entirety.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

What a great album cover.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

It is indeed. Looks like I'll finally get round to seeing them in February, just have to decide whether to see them in Glasgow or Gateshead.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
The new Sparks album is on In the Red in North America, of all labels.

The drummer's purty.

Vic Funk, Thursday, 8 December 2005 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Heheh, of all labels to end up on.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 December 2005 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

the sparks site calls the new album "quite simply an extraordinary masterpiece".

dan (dan), Friday, 9 December 2005 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anybody have any MP3s of 'Waterproof' or 'Dick Around' as yet? I'd be interested in getting a sneak preview of these tracks.

Dario Western, Saturday, 17 December 2005 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
Oh god I love this band.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 January 2006 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The official site has the video for the Plagiarism version of "Number One Song in Heaven"- sadly, it's the only video that isn't a short, super-low-quality clip.

telephone thing, Monday, 16 January 2006 03:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, a complete video collection would be great, but jeez, the amount of licensing that would have to be done.

I'm just listening to Profile again and I'm just amazed at how every song could be some other band's entire career (and probably was once that band heard these guys). "Angst in My Pants" is so damn perfect, hilarity and melancholy poised *just* right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 January 2006 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

saw a re-run of the local NYC vid show new york noise just now and they had the video for My Baby's Taking Me Home...totally brilliant.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 16 January 2006 05:12 (eighteen years ago) link

That was a weird set list!!!

frogbs, Friday, 7 July 2023 03:12 (nine months ago) link

Good!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 July 2023 03:16 (nine months ago) link

it was kind of surreal, for the last few days there's been a particular early Sparks deep cut stuck in my head (thanks to some recent reissues) and it was somehow actually in the set list. mind you I'd been avoiding spoilers, I had no clue what was coming.

I don't wanna spoil anything for those who are planning to see them, all I'm gonna say is they played a lot of really great tunes from not-so-great albums, it was really a showcase of their entire career, none of this "lets just forget about the 30 years between then and now" shit a lot of veteran bands do. some of the guys I went with knew very little about the band and left very impressed.

Russ sounded incredible. his voice really hasn't changed at all. one thing I will say though, I know a Garth Brooks outfit when I see one, and the man definitely cribbed a part of his wardrobe last night. Ron on the other hand was wearing a suit and XXXXL shorts

frogbs, Friday, 7 July 2023 14:47 (nine months ago) link

I don't even especially like the song, but it was touching to hear them bring out something as obscure as "Those Mysteries" when I saw them in 2013. I guess reviving their entire catalogue onstage shows they're willing to encompass it all.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 7 July 2023 15:07 (nine months ago) link

I saw 'em in DC last week and it was easily the most energetic Sparks audience I've ever been a part of. Also (unrelated, I'm sure) the youngest crowd I've ever seen at a Sparks show. Some teens, and more than a few genuine children there with their parents. I saw one young kid wearing a yellow suit modeled after the cactus suit Russell wore on American Bandstand in 84! I think the documentary has been really key in creating a new generation of Sparks fans.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Friday, 7 July 2023 15:23 (nine months ago) link

yea there was definitely a moment like that concerning a particular tune I really love from one of those albums so unliked you have to hit "see all" on their RYM page to find it. and it wasn't even one of the singles! totally killed too.

frogbs, Friday, 7 July 2023 15:32 (nine months ago) link

xp That same kid came to the DC show in the same outfit last year. Russell pointed him out from the stage.

Chris L, Friday, 7 July 2023 16:42 (nine months ago) link

The album's good! Not *too much* of a departure from the previous two.

actually I would disagree with this! the wild hyperactive electronic stuff (especially on "Mona Lisa"!) seems unlike anything they've done in the past. also it's cinematic and sweeping in a way their last several only hinted at. it's also...oh I dunno...a bit more TMBG-ish I think. obviously I mean that in a good way. if any of them I think it reminds me most of Hippopatamus but it's actually more ambitious than that. some of the string arrangements are really pretty! are they still fake??

"Nothing Is As Good As They Say It Is" definitely feels like one of those things where a band will randomly slap some unreleased tune from their glory years onto a new album and hope nobody notices. only its actually one of the less interesting songs on the album, instead just sounding kind of out of place, as good as it is. maybe they wrote it just to prove they still could do songs like that

frogbs, Monday, 10 July 2023 03:13 (nine months ago) link

some of the string arrangements are really pretty! are they still fake??

I've been wondering about that too. One of my first thoughts hearing the album was that they must have started using some new, more realistic orchestral samples, but then on the Tim Burgess Twitter listening party, Ron said the orchestrations for "Take Me for a Ride" were done by Nathan Kelly, who did the orchestrations for the 40th anniversary Kimono concerts. I don't see his name anywhere in the credits though, and there aren't credits for any orchestral performers, so I'm not sure about the exact extent of those orchestrations. Maybe he helped out with some other songs too?

"When You Leave" could totally be a TMBG song.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Monday, 10 July 2023 19:07 (nine months ago) link

Last night's Hollywood Bowl show: a real treat. It's been pretty much the same set for the tour but it was a delight hearing "Beaver O'Lindy" dug up.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 July 2023 21:50 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

They’ve had plenty of lovely songs over their career but a couple of times on the latest album they go for a kraftwerkian prettiness that feels quite new and a perfect fit

Grandall Flange (wins), Thursday, 31 August 2023 22:06 (seven months ago) link

Def up there with their very best for me, first listen gave me the same feeling as Hello Young Lovers where I wondered if this is actually the best they’ve ever been

frogbs, Friday, 1 September 2023 00:10 (seven months ago) link

They're just that good!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2023 01:34 (seven months ago) link

What a career

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 1 September 2023 02:35 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

Just saw the documentary last night and I was most surprised by how Californian Ron sounded - I don't really know what I expected him to sound like though! Obviously the best thing about it was the Mael Brothers, I could have done with a lot more of them and a lot less of comedians I've never heard of whose agents got them the gig. Also the chronological album-by-album approach became a bit of a route march.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 October 2023 06:32 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

Didn't expect this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH8i_-vUwGY

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 February 2024 17:25 (one month ago) link

Lil' Richter

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 23 February 2024 18:07 (one month ago) link

Roffle

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 February 2024 18:16 (one month ago) link

Oh, that sounds beautiful (on one play).

djh, Friday, 23 February 2024 20:31 (one month ago) link

cant think of a single other Sparks track that sounds like this

frogbs, Friday, 23 February 2024 20:40 (one month ago) link

Rarely see Sparks vinyl for decent prices out in the wild so I was pretty stoked to grab Indiscreet and Propaganda the other day for seven bucks apiece.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 25 February 2024 05:21 (one month ago) link

Vinyl and CD reissues coming soon for #1 Song in Heaven and Noel's heretofore out of print "Is There More To Life Than Dancing?" from 1979. I never had heard of Noel's record before, but it's awesome!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dAYlIHeqc

from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 19:57 (one month ago) link


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