it really is a nice (and unique) record. sort of too bad these two dudes can't just get together every couple of years and do this kind of thing -- they've obviously got chemistry working in their favor. but they've got a lot of nasty history too i guess.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
I always liked this one best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSxRN0pNciA
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
yeah backing track sounds like stars of the lid or something. when i saw lou in the early 90s he did this one! it was pretty great.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
i like this record because it feels like sort of a little record, somehow u don't demand evenness or shit like that, it makes u generous
― zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
I can't listen to Magic and Loss beyond the obvious cuts. Whenever he essays a Serious Project, a disinterest or at worst cynicism seeps through.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
also am i rite that cale obviously slays reed on this, even tho he claims reed did all the work
― zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
the best songs are cale songs but they all would've been worse w/o lou
― iatee, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno, i'm liking both of their songs
lou's maybe never seemed more human than on this
― little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
They're both in top form.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
I'm with Zvookster - Cale all the way on this. But I'm biased, I've simply never gotten into Lou despite many visitations.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 26 August 2011 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
I just listened to this for the first time in my life. I'm a Cale devotee, Reed skeptic but this is a damn, damn good effort from both.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Friday, 26 August 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, and I just visited the Andy Warhol museum in Pittsburgh, some of these tunes played in my head.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
This album is better than any of their solo records.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
whoa whoa
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
It's better than any Cale project released after 1990 though, true.
This album is better than any of their (post-70s) solo records.
― iatee, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
This album is better than anything recorded by the Velvet Underground.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
eh, for me it's probably on par w/ blue mask, music for a new society, new york, wrong way up, etc. which is really good, but let's not get carried away here.
― tylerw, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
this is a good album but it isn't even close to either of their peaks both solo and with VU
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn5X_UfhROIhere's lou's solo take on a dream
― tylerw, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
pretty bad hair period for lou
more loss than magic certainly
― zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
this is ultimately why SFD is a good-not-great record.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
Love the non-80s production on this and New York.
― The Pocket Rebecca de Mornay (Eazy), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
i went into a big new york phase a couple months ago...those first three tracks are so good it almost fools you into thinking it's a classic
― little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that is probably otm. it is a nicely produced record -- really doesn't sound super-dated, at least as opposed to Mistrial.
― tylerw, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
no the band sounds good, but the second half? yikes, just dire condescending preachy lou at his worst
but i like romeo had juliette > halloween parade > dirty blvd as much as any three song run in anything lou did, velvets included
― little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 August 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
yeah ugh that album quickly wears out its welcome. maybe it shoulda been an EP lol
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 August 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
someone really needs to sign up for a VU solo album poll
― iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 02:56 (twelve years ago) link
I already got my poll done wit but I think it would be fantastic
― iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
and "There is No Time," a political song for every betrayal.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 August 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
if you don't like it Y O U S U C K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGtznW_-IBQ&feature=related
― piscesx, Saturday, 3 March 2012 06:43 (twelve years ago) link
70 years old! keep on.
― jed_, Saturday, 3 March 2012 12:32 (twelve years ago) link
I have this cranked up today. Really missing Lou, and this is so beautiful. I remember it coming out and thinking, well that sucks, and now I think it would be in my all time top 10 albums.
― MatthewK, Saturday, 30 July 2016 05:44 (seven years ago) link
yeah a Top 10 for me no question.
― piscesx, Saturday, 30 July 2016 13:33 (seven years ago) link
it was one of the first cds i bought. not top ten but probably top 100.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 8 August 2016 12:01 (seven years ago) link
God, after all these years, 'A Dream' is still so damn beautiful and affecting, I wish for a 200-hour audiobook of Cale reading The Warhol Diaries in that wistful, monotone voice.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 2 June 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link
I still find Smalltown quite short and sweet.
― calzino, Sunday, 2 June 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
I love this album, but haven’t listened to it in probably 25 years... really ought to rectify that
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 2 June 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
bought it in a bin sale this Record Store Day. it's pretty good, and certainly heartfelt.
― Ludo, Sunday, 2 June 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link
There's a really good live Drella bootleg knocking about *with an audience* from Tokyo; it's amazing but disconcerting at the same time; applause and whoops randomly throughout etc. It's such a sombre piece in the main that it's odd hearing any interaction at all. They come on at the end to do Pale Blue Eyes and it's pretty incredible.
This is an.. interesting version of A Dream too; an unusual choice of encore from a '92 Magic And Loss tour show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn5X_UfhROI
― piscesx, Monday, 3 June 2019 00:30 (four years ago) link
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link
I fucking love this record, and the performance video, so much. The emotional complexity of those two guys with that history and that much baggage, doing something so personal by making such art.
― assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 30 July 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link
Incredible, totally. There's a really good bootleg from Tokyo knocking around; it's odd to hear live reaction throughout, but totally worth a listen. They do the whole album, then Pale Blue Eyes as an encore at the end, and the roof sounds like it's going to come off.
― piscesx, Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link
Sounding especially wonderful this Saturday afternoon
https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/628339639633248256/lou-reed-john-cale-st-anns-church-brooklyn
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 5 September 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link
anyone grab the RSD vinyl reissue?
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 5 September 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link
drella was officially pulled back to the 10/24 RSD drop, which didn't prevent some stores from selling it anyway, but they were in the minority.
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 6 September 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link
damn you CJV, listening to that it's hitting me all over again
― assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link
<3
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link
Picked this up today — it was the only thing I wanted from the RSD list. Sounds effin great! I don’t think I’ve heard this since about 1994. Turns out, after some confusion, that the run was indeed 8500 copies, which probably means I’ll be buying a few more copies at half price somewhere down the road.
― The little engine that choogled (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 24 October 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link