Wot no 2011 Mercury Music Prize thread?

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it's so...mercury music prize to have only rewarded her worst album

lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:09 (twelve years ago) link

I feel kind of terrible in that I'm still waiting for PJ Harvey to click with me. I even saw her live this summer and it didn't move me at all. I realise this is kind of a challops on this board though, and I'm sure there'll come a day where she'll come on shuffle at the right time and I'll be all "Hey! This is f'kin great!!". Is it a lyrics thing maybe? I don't tend to pay much attention to lyrics until about the third or fourth time around (at least).

Who are the panel for the prize? Anyone know?

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:20 (twelve years ago) link

(The odds on PJ are ... not worth placing money on.)

djh, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

Every time I hear her albums, I always enjoy her diversity and talent, etc.

Every time I see her live on TV, my mind goes "PATTISMITH! PATTISMITH! PATTISMITH! PATTISMITH! PATTISMITH! "...

Mark G, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 11:39 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Peej won.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

I've never been able to get into anything by PJ Harvey. Her stuff just sounds cold and dreary to me. I know it's supposed to be good, and I'm interest in the political side of it but she's just never taken me - even when I saw her live in the summer.

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

huh

have you considered that you might be a zombie

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah... I can't get into Elvis Costello either.

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

well that's understandable

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

It's that one song (by PJ) I used to hear on the Evening Session in the '90s that went "La La La La Please Please Pleeeeasse" - didn't like it. Didn't like the way her voice plead so much and I didn't like the repetitiveness of the guitars now the furrow-browed sincerity of it all. It's not as though I don't appreciate these factors in other acts, her stuff just makes me feel cold and uncomfortable. All the same I do want to get into it - just never heard anything by her that excites me.

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

now = nor

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

Is Tinie Tempah supposed to be pronounced like "Tiny Temper"?

kkvgz, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

yes

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

or "toy-nee temp-aw" if you're from sunny South London

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

Could never get into her either but I've liked stuff I've heard from her last album

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

... Peej that is

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

when I saw the name Tinie Tempah, I figured it would be another girl rapper like Lady Sov.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

Also, calling the album Disc-Overy (ovary?). Has the British public already had their fun with this?

kkvgz, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

dog latin, when was the last time you checked this out:

http://open.spotify.com/track/1f57D54zUH9ajzZ9N7rGE2

still rocks IMO

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

will give it a proper spin tonight when i get home DJP

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

Marcello, I think this is the earlier thread.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

lulz charlie no 4 really did screw up this year's mercury thread. thankfully it's not a thing to care about anyway, though obv i'm happy with the winner

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

i pronounce it "tiny tempura" btw and then i eat sushi

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

and given the britpop shite dog latin has copped to liking i'm quite glad PJH has been spared his taste

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

not sure King Creosote could be described as Britpop...

Neil S, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

Wow at this guy
http://twitter.com/#!/MatthewCainC4

"PJ Harvey wins Mercury for obscure album no-one liked or bought - how predictable! What's wrong with music connecting with lots of people?"

Neil S, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

man is wrong. outrageous.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

and given the britpop shite dog latin has copped to liking i'm quite glad PJH has been spared his taste

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:34 (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not sure King Creosote could be described as Britpop...

― Neil S, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:38 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, c'mon billy. what's king creosote got to do with britpop that pj harvey hasn't?

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

I can actually see the Lex quite liking King Creosote's stuff - there's the Jon Hopkins connection, a certain Waits-ian brooding, and it's extremely well played, sung and produced. Not Britpop at all.

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

You like it tho, so he won't

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

man is wrong. outrageous.

― Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:01 (52 minutes ago) Bookmark

Wouldn't care if he was any old Tweeter, but for someone who is the cultural correspondent for a supposedly serious news source to come up with this garbage is not good IMO.

Neil S, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

neil s otm

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

I must say I'm enjoying taking the excuse to go back through all of the old PJ Harvey albums today; I'd forgotten how great Is This Desire? is

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

http://sickmouthy.com/2011/09/07/why-i’m-pleased-let-england-shake-won-the-mercury-music-prize/

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

Sucks.

http://wp.me/pHEvR-ad

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

Sadly, DJP, Victory didn't do much for me either. I'll keep trying with LES but right now I think it's going to be a similar affair as Nick Cave - I should really like it, it has all the elements of stuff I usually love in music, but something's just not clicking. Oh well :-(

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

I can sympathise with dog latin here. Have been trying with it for some months, and while she's tackling those weighty themes in an interesting way, I'm just not liking the actual sonics of it very much at all.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

lol that Spotify link was supposed to be to the entire Dry album, not just that one song

although it does rock, it doesn't rock as much as "Sheela Na Gig" or "Joe"

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

PJ's last three albums haven't worked for me at all, which is frustrating because I think her first four are brilliant.

I think it's really important to be introduced to the right album of hers at the right time in your life. For me, it was Rid of Me. I've rarely been so blown away by an album in my life. I needed to hear that female anger, longing, and intensity that had been missing from my record collection.

thinveneer, Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

While I haven't LOVED every album of hers immediately, I have found something worthwhile on every one. To Bring You My Love is still my favorite and the one I play the most, but I thought LES was brilliant from the get-go and, especially given the subject matter, a worthy winner.

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

I think that stating that her last few albums didn't do it for me at all was too strongly worded. I definitely still respect her as an artist - I just wish I could get into them like her earlier albums. Maybe more effort on my part is required.

thinveneer, Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

I listened to all of her albums in chronological order yesterday (thx Spotify!), it was really interesting listening to the evolution of her sound

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

I think it's really important to be introduced to the right album of hers at the right time in your life. For me, it was Rid of Me. I've rarely been so blown away by an album in my life. I needed to hear that female anger, longing, and intensity that had been missing from my record collection.

― thinveneer, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:42 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I doubt this somehow, but might the fact I grew up around an awful lot of female angst be a barrier in my appreciation of PJ Harvey?

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't mean that Rid of Me is the right place for everyone to start. I meant that different albums might be the "ideal" place for a person to get drawn in, and it's great if you're lucky enough to start with that album.

thinveneer, Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

Ugh - not making sense today. On painkillers. Forgive me.

thinveneer, Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

i'm coming off cigs at the moment so my posts aren't exactly being reined in either.

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link


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