yeah honestly, berman and malkmus need to make another record again.
― tylerw, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
While I feel a little jaded on the whole Malkmus Schtik this record sounds like his best set of songs since Crooked Rain.
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 20 August 2011 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
!
― markers, Saturday, 20 August 2011 07:03 (twelve years ago) link
that's a big claim
more like dinglepicker
― buzza, Saturday, 20 August 2011 07:11 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah well it is a big claim I suppose, but I didn't really rate the consistency of latter period Pavement myself. And found the other solo records, apart from the first to be collections of mostly jams in search of songs, or an excuse to show us how much he had improved his soloing. As I implied upthread I'm a bit over his whole style anyway and so I can't say my comment comes for someone who is truly invested and cares deeply about the guys work anymore. I feel a lot more detached than I was when Westing or Slanted or Watery Domestic came out and he meant everything to me. I listen to his stuff now out of respect for those earlier records but not expecting much. Hell, its only a claim - an early claim at that, I've only listened a couple of times and was pleasantly surprised- if unexcited. Thanks anyway Buzza for yer constructive and enlightening reply.
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:23 (twelve years ago) link
first malkmus solo album was his best set of songs since 'crooked rain.' pavement is his buffalo springfield and the jicks his crazy horse. looking forward to seeing these new jams live
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 20 August 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
bullshit analogy imo, and i like solo Malkmus
― Number None, Saturday, 20 August 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
pavement kind of sucked after their first two albums
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 20 August 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
die
this is awesome partly because it is sooo late pavement
― mark (er) s (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 August 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
be mellow bro
― one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
i was just foolin
― mark (er) s (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah I see the sound of this as somewhere between Wowee Zowee and Brighten the Corners and as being overall more consistent than both. It has the kind of laid back, off the cuff feel of WZ combined with some of the more elegant, composed BTC feel. Nothing as good as We Dance though, and maybe Grounded.
You guys get pretty 'het up' if anyone expresses an opinion different to your own, for Malkmus stuff. I don't feel like I am being unreasonable. Must be Sacred Cow syndrome. If you don't agree then explain why and get a conversation going- after all that's the point of this thread and board isn't it?
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 20 August 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
new board description
― I'll be interesting in 20 years (rip van wanko), Saturday, 20 August 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
explain why and get a conversation going about music.com ??
maybe not. tee he.
― Hinklepicker, Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/arts/music/stephen-malkmus-the-jicks-and-beck-mirror-traffic.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha28 Malkmus and Beck and bandmates
Mr. Malkmus generally stuck to his songwriting strategy of creating riffs inspired by favorite or recently heard songs and improvising his lyrics on the spot. (This accounts for tracks like “No One Is (As I Are Be),” which combines the gentle acoustic guitar of Bobbie Gentry’s “Ode to Billie Joe” with the Malkmusian line “I cannot even do one sit-up, sit-ups are so bourgeoise.”) Mr. Hansen said he tried not to put his thumb on the scale too much, though he was sorry to see Mr. Malkmus lose a lyric that rhymed “Vietnam” with “lip balm.”
The decision to write and record “Mirror Traffic” before last year’s Pavement reunion tour, Mr. Malkmus acknowledged, was his, though he could not say for certain if that impending commitment had an effect on the album.
“I knew that it was coming,” he said, “so if people try to say it’s somehow Pavement-y, it could be in my mind, that I had to do that tour.” He corrected himself. “Or wanted to do that tour.”
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 August 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
I hate the way the article starts.
This, on the other hand, is a great quote:
“I don’t think Steve Malkmus gets wildly excited about much except fantasy sports,” said Janet Weiss
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 August 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
and whoa @ Beck producing Dwight Yoakam!
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 August 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
last time i checked that damn spotify banner ad telling me to listen to this album still didn't work -- you click on it and it shows the record and tells you it's not available or whatever u_u
― markers, Sunday, 21 August 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
just stream it on the NPR all songs considered site for now
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 August 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
ty for the tip, will do
― markers, Sunday, 21 August 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
P/u on LP yesterday and listening now. Is it just me or the does the vinyl master sound a bit thin? It sure isn't my setup ...
― BlackIronPrison, Sunday, 21 August 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
Malkmus' remark about nothing happening in the nineties is an example of the kind of stupid rock star narcissism of which careers are made.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 August 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
Since this doesn't even get physically released until Tuesday BlackIronPrison, not sure anybody's able to compare just yet. Jealous that you found a copy already, or did you do a preorder?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Sunday, 21 August 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
streaming this now, it's pretty great!
― sonderangerbot, Sunday, 21 August 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
srtephen malkmomus
― buzza, Sunday, 21 August 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
Jon - Permanent Records on Chicago Ave. had it out Saturday - maybe someone made a boo-boo ... It really is such a leap in a different direction than R.E.T. ... I like it and I think I really place Malkmus and Pavement in different camps ...
― BlackIronPrison, Monday, 22 August 2011 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
Nice. Yeah, I try to avoid comparing Pavement and Malkmus' solo stuff, different beasts completely imho. I've only listened to the stream once, but it sounded really good. Excited to dig in more later this week.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
Different but the same. A lot of these tunes sound like Pavement songs to me- why pretend anything different? I don't think this is a surprise or that there is anything wrong with this- he was the main songwriter in Pavement after all. I think the last couple of records the difference was more marked but on this one not so much.
― Hinklepicker, Monday, 22 August 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
why pretend anything different?
Completely different backing musicians, for one. I really don't think most of his solo stuff sounds Pavement-y, tbh. I mean, yeah sure, in that he's the same vocalist playing vaguely indie-rock driven music.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
Ok then guess we must be hearing different things. Sounds pretty similar sort of songs to my ears. Sure the rest of the group is different but the composition, melodies, lead guitar, lyrics etc all sound close enough to (middle/late era Pavement) be almost interchangeable to a lost Pavement album to me. Not worth having a bath over though.
― Hinklepicker, Monday, 22 August 2011 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
omg
― steens furiously (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 22 August 2011 03:59 (twelve years ago) link
also what is this record called so i can pirate it reliably
― steens furiously (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 22 August 2011 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
l.a. gunz
― boxall, Monday, 22 August 2011 04:01 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 04:02 (twelve years ago) link
>:[
― steens furiously (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 22 August 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link
mirror traffic
― markers, Monday, 22 August 2011 05:00 (twelve years ago) link
http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2011/08/10/malkmus2_wide.jpg
"am i really in a band with these pricks?"
― ledge, Monday, 22 August 2011 09:22 (twelve years ago) link
malkmus interviewed by dean wareham (!)
http://www.salon.com/news/music/index.html?story=/ent/tv/feature/2011/08/22/malkmus_wareham
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link
This is another Pretty Good Record.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
nycers, playing two in-stores on thursday, one at other music and one at academy in brooklyn..
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
I like the way the new album starts off but I got a bit bored halfway in (that's on my first listen to the NPR stream that was available) says this Slanted and Crooked Rain fan. This is getting great reviews so far(here and everywhere), so maybe I need to give it more time.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
more or less what others said already:
1. i like it after the first listen.2. it definitely has a pavement feel to it, more later than early pavement of course.3. during the second half i got bored a little as well, it gets a little jammy at some point.
― alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
The two songs over five minutes are the worst.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
why do you guys hate to rock
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
the question is why does Malkmus.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
love when malkmus gets jammy, six minutes, eight minutes, more!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
^^ (xp ian)
i like "brain gallop"
― karen d. foreskin (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
i prefer light & wispy malk actually
'Share the Red' is a decent synthesis of these types I think.
― boxall, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
Alright which one of you runs the AcidCasualties youtube channel lol.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 3 March 2024 19:01 (one month ago) link