"Mutant slow techno and Kevin Drumm records..." - A thread for Raime, Chasing Voices, Old Apparatus etc.

I actually have that open in my other browser tab but I haven't had time to read it all!

The Haxan Cloak's Observatory EP deserves a mention in here: http://bit.ly/nZwVd7

still scratching my head about how this is some kind of new innovation, genre or micro-genre even

though i hope they actually do call this 'knackered house'--i'm 2x more interested with the name

Ekoplekz has a new album on the way for Punch Drunk and it's well nice. Its in a more digestable size then the epic double tape 33 track album on Mordant Music too. Clips: http://punchdrunkmusic.com/products-page/featured-products/ekoplekz-intrusive-incidentalz-vol-1-lp-punch-drunk-pre-order/

The new Mika Vainio album reminds me, oddly, of Mammal's "Lonesome Drifter."

That's a weird comparison. I'll have to hear that Mammal record. I only have Fog Walkers and it's sort of gabba-style noise.

Is there really nowhere to buy Raime's 'Retread' 12" or that Chasing Voices 12"? Been on backorder at Boomkat and Forced Exposure for months, and it's not even on eBay (my usual last resort when I'm fiending to own physical product). Bummer.

Just bought the Tropic of Cancer and new Regis 12"s but have yet to listen.

The Chasing Voices twelves are here: http://bit.ly/f7lgFw

And Raime here: http://bit.ly/o0F0wb

Thanks! Had no idea discogs was a site that actually sold records. That Raime 12" is still a bit steep for me ($40+ not including shipping: not for a 12", not today), but I think I'll buy one of those Chasing Voices 12"s. Thanks again

No problem. I love Discogs Marketplace.

It might be worth you emailing this shop: http://www.resident-music.com

They had multiple copies of the Raime EP for £7.99 when I was last in there.

Actually, here you go... http://bit.ly/pEU8V3

Still worth mailing Resident though, as the copies there were the first pressing, with sleeves.

The guy selling it on Discogs is a chancer, I clicked through to the sales history and the stamped repress is worth £13 at most. The first pressing goes for around £25.

first thing i thought of is the aybee cassette ancient tones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnzASdm7R4Y

okay, thanks thread, i love techno again.

yeah, same. I started reading this yesterday and have already spent about $35 on this stuff.

oh i'm being a worthless sponge off the bounty of the internet for now, but when my next paycheck comes in, it's over.

I went looking for that Aybee cassette on the interwebs and in three pages of Google was only able to turn up rapidshare and blogs offering illegal downloads (and a few sites that had links to 'buy cassette' that went to nowhere at all)

yeah some of this stuff seems easier to download illegally, sadly. beatport has Old Apparatus, bunch of Ekoplekz, and Raime, which you can download in .wav format.

I may resolve pretty soon to just quit downloading techno altogether. This kinda stuff sounds so much better on wax (or, err, cassette)

I need a spotify playlist of this genre.

re: the Haxan Cloak's Observatory EP: the title track has been on repeat for the past few days... soooo making my life right now.

He has an album out now too

yeah, i'm getting a check later today. once that clears, it's on.

Seen quite a few of these guys live, mostly awesome, though I somehow failed to realise that there is Haxan Cloak stuff actually available on physical format. D'oh.

it's funny that my friend Bob's stuff has been reworked by Rrose. it seems so...unlikely a pairing when i think about Bob, but then i listen to the original Motormouth recordings and it makes perfect sense....

a little more dark dubstep or whatever, but it occurred to me that Sleeper fall into this with some tunes, maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIdqt8ORfgQ

Seen quite a few of these guys live, mostly awesome, though I somehow failed to realise that there is Haxan Cloak stuff actually available on physical format. D'oh.

I keep picking it up and putting it down again in Resident. Any good? Review I saw a while back was comparing it to Ben Frost.

'it' = the album

speaking of the new prurient, i really like its campiness— its kind of a new height of noise camp, imo.

I keep picking it up and putting it down again in Resident. Any good? Review I saw a while back was comparing it to Ben Frost.

― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Saturday, September 3, 2011

The album and 12" are both excellent but quite different from each other. The Ben Frost reference can be heard on the album for sure, but the 12" sort of stands alone.

Not as good as Ben Frost

interview + mix of blackest ever black label dude

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1401

digging this guys schtick

"Schtick" is a fitting term for how he comes across in that interview, although I did enjoy it and get some good chuckles from it. His views are so well-articulated and thought-through that they read as scripted, and for a label that seems to want to offer a level of darkness and intensity they feel most contemporary dance music doesn't deliver, that surprised me.

Also, as much as I'm digging a lot of music discussed on this thread (especially Regis, at the moment), does it feel to anyone else, I don't know, a bit obvious? There's a certain hamfistedness with goth (in all its forms) that tends to prevent me from truly engaging with it, and much of this stuff just oozes hamfistedness. To be fair, though, I'm probably not his ideal fan; as he so charmingly writes: "Already I can see that more and more halfwits and knuckle-draggers are being drawn to Blackest Ever Black, but alas you can't choose who buys your records and hey, it's meat in the room." (We're all just fuckin' MEAT, man.)

(And do you ever feel like people who attack Mr. Conservative Dancefan Strawman with the most vigor are actually afraid deep-down that they might be one themselves?)

actually happened to be listening to the regis ep right now. it fukken kills.

I'm afraid I might be part of his well-defined target market. I would advice him to stop doing interviews.

Clarke B., I'm sort of confused by you saying that ALL GOTH MUSIC IS LACKING DEXTERITY. Actually, not really confused, but more, "What the fuck is this guy on about?"

It's just a really shitty generalization. And yes, I am a bit of a 'goth,' in appearance and in musical taste, but a lot of what I think you might refer to as hamfistedness is just the costumery and camp affect of a lot of what some might call goth music. You are either into that sort of camp quality for whatever reasons, or you're just not. But don't fuck with goth shit, I will haunt your fucking soul.

I realize in retrospect that I didn't make it clear, but I wasn't referring to the music or the execution of the music when I said goth was hamfisted, and I think "hamfisted" is actually not really the correct word for what I was trying to say. (And it's not as if my collection doesn't contain quite a helping of stuff that could comfortably fit under a goth umbrella...) I meant that there are certain aspects of goth--what you described as "costumery and camp affect" included--that are hard for me to relate to. In any case, I didn't mean for my post to be an anti-goth screed, and I'll regroup and try to pinpoint more precisely why that interview irritated me.

the interview mostly made me laugh at home. so serious! I like the stuff I've heard from his label (tho found his RA "mix" boring), but it's hilarious to hear a dance label guy who writes for FACT disdainfully refer to clubbers as 'meat'. I like to imagine he looks like this:

http://deskofbrian.com/wp-content/uploads/stephen_dorff_blade_vampire.jpg

ugh... "home" = him (wtf)

I wish the stuff was campier, really

my friends saw tropic of cancer in san francisco a few nights ago and said it was sort of mopey

Their mission? To make you feel something.

We had similar—if not identical—tastes and backgrounds, similarly paranoid and pretentious dispositions, and perhaps most vitally we were all at the same point of disaffection, a point where we were finding more solace and succour in Earth 2 than in the latest internet dance fad.

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000231085/polls_goths2_3801_974703_answer_4_xlarge.jpeg

At this point in my life I want to be provoked, I want to be romanced, I want to be made to feel stupid and confused all over again.

okcupid.com?

I think—no, I know—it was Greil Marcus, in one of his frightfully earnest essays about punk,

at this point i reached "cringing at smug twat overload" and stopped reading

^^^

http://batillusdoom.com/crustcake/images/earth2_399x234.jpg

L-R: ham fist, half wit, knuckle dragger

http://www.boomkat.com/various/charts/KiranSandechart_Large.jpg

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"...a point where we were finding more solace and succour in Earth 2 than in the latest internet dance fad."

...so we decided to embrace the beautifully pure and un-internet-hyped Knackered House movement and give totally meaningful interviews on the non-internet-hype-oriented Resident Advisor website.

Curious what's up with Vatican Shadow being in on that mix. It's Dominick Fernow (Prurient, Hospital Productions) doing Muslimgauze worship/"Knackered House", and as far as I know he's only released under the hospital label. Would be interesting to see him getting pulled into this scene after Bermuda Drain.

oh and of course I missed that part that says he's releasing on BEB in the interview, heh.