itt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b

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get the 2nd one.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 22 December 2008 10:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I am always suckered in by Me'Shell at first but then repeated listenings make me tired, too much work for not enuf payoff. But I am a sucker for other things that probably aren't as "good" so there we have it.

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 22 December 2008 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

he is more jazzy and has gotten tons of attention b/c of KDJ, but Jose James really is the shit. "The Dreamer" might be one of my favorite records of the year.

the table is the table, Monday, 22 December 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.last.fm/group/Bling47+Group

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Monday, 22 December 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

he is more jazzy and has gotten tons of attention b/c of KDJ, but Jose James really is the shit. "The Dreamer" might be one of my favorite records of the year.

I keep meaning to dig deeper into the album and always get snagged -- in a good way (/Avant) -- on "Park Bench People"/"On the Red Clay" or whatever he titled it.

Andy K, Monday, 22 December 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Voodoo to thread please.

― Ioannis, Monday, December 22, 2008 2:24 AM Bookmark

I know this is gonna sound all "rev hates Voodoo", etc. and here I go with the imposing limits and stuff, but I don't want this thread to be about stuff that's already canon like D'Angelo or Badu.

The Reverend, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i love the shit out of voodoo but let's get on some new stuff

(good thread btw)

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

haha YOU CANNOT DENY YOUR OWN HISTORY MY SON

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link

aha! then you must revise thread title thusly: "...pretentious post-modern r&b", no?

Ioannis, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link

dug out me'shell's bitter last night. even more gorgeous than i'd remembered. this was considered a bit of a departure for her at the time, right? i am absolutely going to get the rest of her stuff now...

also, i dimly remember being sent the pattie blingh album mentioned upthread ages ago, just before i moved house and forget about it - i actually managed to find it & am looking forward to using it as a xmas-survival album

lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 11:32 (fifteen years ago) link

can we stick to new stuff rather than play neo soul catch up in this thread plz? (just so i can pick up tips for new music).

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

can u eat my butt?

K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I fully endorse this thread.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I like a couple of these so far, so thanks, this thread looks promising.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link

("a couple of these"--I only just started clicks on these links, you understand)

_Rockist__Scientist_, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link

woah.... Here is a damn funky piece of vocoderized warp-out.

Georgia Anne Muldrow, "Killa Peach"

The Reverend, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link

from this comp:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XSoD6FrsL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

also includes the aforementioned Flying Lotus

The Reverend, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link

More Georgia being Georgia, this time on a track by producer Yameen called "Never Knows Best"

I need to look into this girl some more.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 11:00 (fifteen years ago) link

err, track is called "Spirit Walker" actually

The Reverend, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link

gotta post one of my favorite J*Davey songs:

"No More" -- supersexy and I love the lyrics.. "I just wanna climb/ and leave some footprints on the wall"

The Reverend, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 11:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Commix f/ Steve Space "How You Gonna Feel"

The Reverend, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link

should read "Steve Spacek" blah

The Reverend, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link

"can u eat my butt?"

only if i can spew it out on your face.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 12:12 (fifteen years ago) link

increase the peace

The Reverend, Thursday, 25 December 2008 11:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm goin' in

baby got bahn (country matters), Thursday, 25 December 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i just want to put "dollar" up here, because i fucking love that song

winston, Friday, 26 December 2008 04:38 (fifteen years ago) link

thankig u winston

The Reverend, Friday, 26 December 2008 05:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Haven't had much of a chance to wander through youtube linkages, etc. But I finally gave the Foreign Exchange album a spin and whether or not it fits properly into this category, it's really something else.

the other Alex in MTL, in fact (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 26 December 2008 06:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Does the new Raphael Saadiq album have any place being mentioned on this thread? It's fucking fantastic; one of my favorite albums this year.

Muomas (nickalicious), Friday, 26 December 2008 06:32 (fifteen years ago) link

No.

The Reverend, Friday, 26 December 2008 06:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry to be condescending, but have you read the thread title or listened to anything posted in this thread?

The Reverend, Friday, 26 December 2008 06:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I figured Leave It All Behind was fair game, given that it was brought up two or three times, and the prominence of Muhsinah on the album. Sorry.

Regardless, the highlight of a lot of it for me is the disconnect between the three-part harmonies, lush production and the almost mundane quality of some of the lyrics. (Not in a bad way...just...it's a lot of day-to-day details of relationships. Bringing you wings for yo' lunch break, and so forth.) Entrancing stuff.

the other Alex in MTL, in fact (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 26 December 2008 06:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, that was in reponce to nick's post, not yours. As far as I'm concerned, FE are fair game for this thread. I posted a couple of their tracks earlier. And your post is totally otm. One of the best albums of the year. I love how it captures both the mundanities and complexities of a relationship... and shows how they intertwine.

The Reverend, Friday, 26 December 2008 07:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I also love how the Phonte vs female vocals are played against each other in unexpected ways throughout, avoiding cliched duet formats.

The Reverend, Friday, 26 December 2008 07:14 (fifteen years ago) link

This thread is particularly perfect given the nebulous status/release dates of Pts. 2 and/or 3 of New Amerykah. I desperately need more stoned afrofuturist science-funktion in my life.

the other Alex in MTL, in fact (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 26 December 2008 07:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Need to give LIAB a few more spins before I can comment on more than the first impression of WOW.

the other Alex in MTL, in fact (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 26 December 2008 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Shit sorry man! FWIW I have listened to almost all of these posted on here, I own the Flying Lotus LA album and Georgia Anne Muldrow's Olesi Fragments on Earth. Whatever. Sorry.

Muomas (nickalicious), Friday, 26 December 2008 07:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Also I figured it fit in under the "maybe kinda pretentious" label but like I said sorry.

Muomas (nickalicious), Friday, 26 December 2008 07:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Naw, I should be the one apologizing. Sorry I was such a dick. And yeah, the Saadiq album is kinda pretentious in it's own way, but the emphasis I wanted is more on the out-thereness and experimentalism. (I might be undermining that with my pimping for Foreign Exchange, but they at least have a v. modern sound and run in these circles.) I just kinda had a "oh no!" moment because slavish retro-soul is pretty much 180 degrees away from what I wanted this this thread to be about. (Btw, how is Olesi?)

The Reverend, Friday, 26 December 2008 07:36 (fifteen years ago) link

haha I am almost afraid to start seeking out the stuff on this thread I don't already know (i.e. most of it) simply because I'm trying to ease into '09 rather than keep digging into '08, but when I like this kind of stuff I like it a lot. thanks for starting it Rev! I'm looking fwd to seeing how it develops.

Matos W.K., Friday, 26 December 2008 08:16 (fifteen years ago) link

A good amount of the stuff in this thread predates the past year, and I have no idea what I'd be easing into in '09 anyway. It just feels like in the past couple months this sort of stuff has really captivated me.

The Reverend, Friday, 26 December 2008 08:26 (fifteen years ago) link

This thread is particularly perfect given the nebulous status/release dates of Pts. 2 and/or 3 of New Amerykah.

There should be Muhsinah and Platinum Pied Pipers albums coming in the couple months. XD

The Reverend, Friday, 26 December 2008 09:29 (fifteen years ago) link

what ive heard of the new ppp album is (not great) retro 60s soul. was never crazy about them in the first place but theyve done quite a turn around.

some of my favourite experimental R&B stuff from the past year or 2 are the tiombe lockheart tracks on the wajeed war album. really incredible. better than georgia anne any day ;)

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 26 December 2008 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link

greg tate on MeShell Ndegeocello's The World Has Made Me the Man of My Dreams: "stupendously, consistently genius"

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Just checked out this album and ^o^. It strikes me as an album that will take a while to unpack. "Elliptical" is my initial favorite.

xp: I still haven't heard any of the new PPP so judgement reserved. I still need to check out Lockhart.

CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA (The Reverend), Friday, 26 December 2008 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link

DAMN Janelle Monae's unreleased Audition from 2003 smokes!

Especially:

Letting Go

My Favorite Nothing (despite its production being an obv Hey Ya knockoff)

bro pono (PappaWheelie V), Monday, 29 December 2008 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, Sincerely, Jane from her 07 EP has caught me

bro pono (PappaWheelie V), Monday, 29 December 2008 04:40 (fifteen years ago) link

"Letting Go" has been a favorite since it appeared on Big Boi's Got Purp? vol. 2 comp

Дyo! (The Reverend), Monday, 29 December 2008 04:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I regret waiting so long to check it. It's my favorite song at the moment.

bro pono (PappaWheelie V), Monday, 29 December 2008 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Another thing I love about the Foreign Exchange album: It totally captures that Aaliyah-style future-classy vibe.

Дyo! (The Reverend), Monday, 29 December 2008 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't find it to post here, but Tiombe Lockhart and Bilal's duet "Strange" is very much worth checking out. It's built very minimally, mostly around a simple, unvarying string bass loop, and features Lockhart and Bilal, using phrasing that signifies jazz moreso than soul, completing each other's thoughts until they finally come together for the chorus. It is tremendously sweet.

Дyo! (The Reverend), Monday, 29 December 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link


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