Emeralds-Classic or Dud?

Any good podcasts for modern composition/electroacoustic stuff?

diminishing returns IMO

part of what was exciting about emeralds was that they seemed to chart a path out of the noize-nerd cul-de-sac.

this thread seems to be going in the opposite direction?

hmmm, is that a truth bomb or just another vahidism? I can't decide ;)

the fun part about getting into acts which are basically c-c-c-combo breakers for entire genres is going the opposite way and seeing all the weird shit you find! it's just a matter of recognizing your personal threshholds and adjusting your exploration accordingly.

i don't get what you're saying, jamescobo. how is rehashing 60s terry riley in 2011 a combo breaker?

chart a path out of the noize-nerd cul-de-sac
i didn't realize i was in this
what do you mean?

how is rehashing 60s terry riley in 2011 a combo breaker?

FAST ACTION DASH CANCEL

and for real, emeralds, grow up. you just had a big year, coming off "does it look like i'm here". why not try to compete with, say, ratatat instead of wasting your time trying to do "goodbye 20th century"

You seem to compare new things to old things in the form of criticism, a lot

Also you ruined the Moritz Von Oswald Trio record for me by comparing it to "lounge exotica" or something

many xposts

I meant Emeralds were the combo breaker (i.e. the ones who take all the signifiers of the tiresomely hermit-ish noize scene and turn them into something normal folks might actually want to listen to), not KFW. working backwards from DILLIH? has been really fun IMO even if most of the stuff I've been digging up can't compare.

oh yeah ok that makes sense

glad to hear i did that for you, adam, you're better off not listening to that trash

haha

"something normal folks might actually want to listen to"

that's what i'm saying, some workout music

bee mask? sounds like that "justin bieber slowed down 800%" bullshit

'does it look like im queer?'

that's a meme i don't know, friend

well theres always something knew to learn!

i lol'd @ 'lounge exotica' tho even if i dig the new record...

the new record is great, so was the old one though

there are no google results for 'does it look like im queer?'

^ seconding the Rene Hell / Leyland Kirby recommendations upthread

I don't see how emeralds are more appealing to normals than any of this other stuff? Lots of less abrasive stuff our there in this vein

this is based on empirical observation of the normals in my vicinity

what makes someone a normal?
i want to know if i am one or if i am trapped in the noize-nerd-cul-de-sac

i listened to a little rene hell, decided that youtube was not a good way to listen to that but then he was not on spotify. i saved saaateutusjdakngeniewhn on emusic for the next time my account refreshes.

do you ... feel normal?

not really

well there you go, noize nerd

i don't have 12 cds and i'm not looking for workout music
hope this helps

i want to know if i am one or if i am trapped in the noize-nerd-cul-de-sac

what are your favorite tape labels?
whats yr most coveted piece of vintage gear?
when was the last time you showered?
what opinions do you have about burritos?
do you have health insurance?
how often do you watch old cartoons on youtube?
what is the cheapest bottle of domestic beer w/in a 5 mile radius of your home?

what are your favorite tape labels?
I don't think I have any, but I am aware of their existence

whats yr most coveted piece of vintage gear?
I don't covet anything because that is not how i am

when was the last time you showered?
this morning

what opinions do you have about burritos?
burritos should not be stuffed with rice
they should contain flavorful meats, vegetables, beans, and cheese in a variety of combinations
they should be folded efficiently

do you have health insurance?
yes, for now

how often do you watch old cartoons on youtube?
occasionally, will probably do that more and i have always been looking for that "wringer" episode where sylvester gets squashed and that song plays dootdoot dootdoot dootdoo dootdoot...

what is the cheapest bottle of domestic beer w/in a 5 mile radius of your home?
$2.50 across the street

did you know "what happened" is a lounge/exotica record?

listen to the first part of "damaged kids"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckzuO0FIOvE

compare to KRELL MUSIC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qADmHaVZ74M&feature=related

New Mark McGuire tune up on Altered Zones today...sounds sweet.

I'm enjoying the Troubles Books collab LP too, kind of slight, but in a positive way.

I continue to be aggravated that this stuff is so hard to track down (Outer Space/Imaginary Softwoods/etc.). The limited LPs and Cassettes thing (which all sell out almost immediately) is such a bummer!

try subscribing to Experimedia's mailing list:

http://www.experimedia.net

they're as good as any other distro in terms of getting stuff early; also they're well aware that there's a lot of interest in the whole Emeralds And Their Musical Super-Friends scene, so they're usually pretty good about alerting folks to product availability. plus Jeremy's an awesome dude in general; his stuff is shipped securely, arrives quickly, and he's always quick with email responses. A++++++ highly recommended would buy again.

of course, the downside of getting into attaining physical copies of all this stuff is that you'll have to take out a second mortgage just to keep up. I'm kind of thankful that I'm more of a stan for John Elliot's stuff than Mark McGuire's since McGuire seems to put out a new record every fkn month.

Thanks for the tip - have just signed up. I keep finding out about stuff (like the Outer Space - Lost Vaccuum Demos LP thing) way after it's all sold out - and that's within a 2 or 3 day period!

Do you suspect these guys oppose digital releases from an artistic standpoint? I'm all for physical and vinyl whenever possible (and have all the Emeralds/McGuire stuff this way, plus the Spectrum Spools stuff), but I'm also happy to buy MP3s - and they never seem to go that route for any of the side project stuff. They'd make a nice chunk of change from suckers like me who snap it all up.

(Side note - that Experimedia site has some fascinating (and amusing) stuff. I like the remote control containing a 24-hour .MP3 album on a USB circuit board: http://www.experimedia.net/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&cPath=1&products_id=3941&zenid=iqnkogq5tej8c4h3k1tjdg1ku4)

Reminiscent of some of the www.twitter.com/fauxzones gags

idk if they have some artistic opposition to digital releases, but this stuff sounds SO much better on vinyl that it's not even funny (in large part thanks to D+M kicking a gigantic volume of ass).

Has ayone else heard the Jurgen Muller LP (it came into and out of print instantly)? It fits right in with this stuff based on the tracks I've heard on Altered Zones and shit. Hopefully someone will make it available again.

btw, I've been keeping tabs on this record since its mention upthread and noticed today that it's getting another pressing:

http://www.experimedia.net/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&cPath=1&products_id=3493

I continue to be aggravated that this stuff is so hard to track down (Outer Space/Imaginary Softwoods/etc.). The limited LPs and Cassettes thing (which all sell out almost immediately) is such a bummer!

― She Got the Shakes, Monday, August 22, 2011

I find Twitter really useful for keeping up with this stuff...

John Elliot: http://twitter.com/coloredmushroom
Steve Hauschildt: http://twitter.com/gneissthings

These guys alerted me to the Outer Space LP: http://twitter.com/dscrmnt

I also subscribe to Boomkat's new vinyl arrivals, http://www.omgvinyl.com, http://mcguiremusic.blogspot.com and http://clevelandwagon.blogspot.com amongst others in Google Reader and tend to catch a lot of stuff that way.

Oh, and these forums too...

http://bit.ly/pZpOSK

http://bit.ly/onZE2D

idk if they have some artistic opposition to digital releases, but this stuff sounds SO much better on vinyl that it's not even funny (in large part thanks to D+M kicking a gigantic volume of ass).

OTM... No comparison!

Co-sign on Experimedia. Fabulous distro, very well run, and one of the best sources for this stuff.

yea i was bummed when i saw the outer space demos lp sold out at the label site but thanks to this thread, i picked it up on experimedia!

yeah, I'll rep for experimedia as well. very nice dude that runs a great store.

EP of unreleased Mark McGuire tracks released on Soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/mark-mcguire/sets/another-dead-end-ep

Really lookin forward to Get Lost LP.

thanks to this thread, i picked it up on experimedia!

seeing these guys in a couple of weeks. how do they cut it live?

A+++++

Never seen them myself, but I've dug on this live video (with obligatory YouTube Comment of No one paid to heard this, did they? OMG):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfVq_BP-37E