Oi! xps
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
x-post - Yeah that anecdote is really interesting. I filmed some at-risk teenagers for a video project during an internship a couple years ago so stuff like that is really interesting to me. One of the things I found that got them talking/opening up was giving them the camera and letting them film each other but, yeah, that's very neat.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
there's a chilling scene in Streetwise where tiny's talking to roberta about how dangerous hooking is ("girls get killed out there"); roberta was later killed by the Green River Killer. also the opening shot is extraordinary
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
#6: Hoop Dreams (Steve James, 1994)
http://blog.whatmovieshouldiwatchtonight.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/hoop-dreams.jpg
68 points/8 votes
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWUYDZzwybc
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
x-post - seriously? I'm also vaguely obsessed by the Green River Killer's story. Fuck. I know what I'm doing tonight.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
I've been trying to post short clips (or, if stuck, trailers) rather than full-length films, because I figure they're going to get pulled at some point.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
i have not seen so many of these films, both the nomination process & the results have reminded me how sketchy i am w/docs
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
Oh also, I'm happy to see American Movie even though I figured it would show up today.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
#5: The Sorrow and the Pity (Marcel Ophüls, 1969)
http://pixhost.me/avaxhome/2007-12-06/bscap0033.jpg
70 points/5 votes/1 first-place vote
www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1FXDKE3HWk
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
blarg i did not need to skim the green river killer wiki at this moment in time
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
getting better!
i and many other people on this very thread write about music
^doesn't get worse
― satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
#4: Harlan County U.S.A. (Barbara Kopple, 1976)
http://ferdyonfilms.com/Harlan%206.jpg
78 points/5 votes/1 first-place vote
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCiVMngILEI
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
sorry schlump :(
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
harlan county was my other first place vote. incredible movie
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
no it's okay!, you kind of know what you're getting, but just jesus, brutal. there's sorta so much information & such a volume of detail that it kinda obscures what was even happening. terrible.
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
#3: Capturing the Friedmans (Andrew Jarecki, 2003)
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/protectedimage.php?image=NoelMegahey/friedmans2.jpg
88 points/8 votes
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVY4ehqJjAA
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
well, that's one of mine today.
xpost!
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
and another I need to see
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
starting to feel prudish at things i didn't persevere with :/
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
#2: Grizzly Man (Werner Herzog, 2005)
http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050817/050817_grizzlyMan_hmed.grid-6x2.jpg
98 points/8 votes/1 first-place vote
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rP5DHbyOwQ
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
look guys, Eric and I write about film. It shouldn't be that surprising that we have more historically-oriented expectations, right?
Not if you recognize that the rest of us *don't* write about film...?
― Get a Brain Rick Moranis (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
i didnt vote for any herzog, but i would've gone with grizzly man if i did. i figured it wouldnt need any help placing though
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
x-post
^ Was one of my two first place votes thanks to a rec from an ILXor. Brother's Keeper was the other.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
I do recognize it, jaymc, but nevertheless expect you to see the same stuff.
― satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
#1: Long Hard Road Out of Hell: The Making of Good Burger (Strongo Hulkington, 2012)
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
#1: Crumb (Terry Zwigoff, 1994)
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/Crumb_movie_image-4.jpg
163 points/13 votes/4 first-place votes
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlT4QZchxQw
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
lol strongo
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
and there it is then.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
Why?
― Get a Brain Rick Moranis (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
was that the only herzog to place, btw?
bcz critics are not rational ppl, as we learn every day here. xp
― satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
bravo clemenza, for taking our polls and taking our shit, you bastard, for orchestrating a poll so unkind to so many directors, goddammit, wtf
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
no, schlump, the kinski doc placed too.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
and yes, thanks clemenza!
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
It wasn't even close--almost half the voters (13/30) listed Crumb, and 15% had it as their #1. If anyone wants to post his or her list now, please do.
No problem. I love documentaries, so this was great for me. Thanks for voting.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, thank you Clemenza!
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
#1: Land of Hope and Change: The Con of Barack Obama (Michael Moore, 2014)
― satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
No way I'm posting my ballot in these shark-infested waters. I am, however, currently compiling a list of the all ones from here I now need to see.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
my list:
Crumb - 20 pointsNight and Fog - 20 pointsThe Filth and the Fury - 10 pointsThe Fog of War - 10 pointsShoah - 10 pointsHarlan County USA - 10 pointsHistoire(s) du Cinema - 5 pointsSalesman - 5 pointsHigh School - 5 pointsBurden of Dreams - 5 points
boooooooring
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
Herzog got votes for three or four other films. When I post the final list of 40, should I also post the other 182 films that got votes (or would that be redundant alongside individual lists)?
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks for the work on this one, clemenza!
― L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
Oh whatever (also p boring I guess but they're all good!)
Grizzly Man - 30Brother's Keeper - 30Grey Gardens - 5American Movie - 5Capturing the Friedmans - 5Little Deiter Needs to Fly - 5Roger and Me - 5Don't Look Back - 5Stop Making Sense - 5Murderball - 5
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
WmC: Would you be able to add end-brackets after the date on the first two films posted way above (Salesman and The Filth and the Fury)? I've learned to live with all the stupid typos I make when posting, but I obsess over little things like that.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
Man On WireFog of WarHoop DreamsThe Blue PlanetWhen We Were KingsOne Night In TurinBuena Vista Social ClubPower of NightmaresWinged MigrationRattle & Hum
Once in a Lifetime: the extraordinary story of the New York CosmosColossus (a Niall Ferguson tv doc)This Is It (the Michael Jackson one)What's Happening! The Beatles in the USAKoyaanisqatsiThe World At WarThe Battle of Chile7 Up seriesAn Impossible Job - was holding out for this at #1 as per thread titleHillsborough
snipe away
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
Aw, I missed the top 10 countdown. Thanks for running this, clemenza.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:49 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
cosign times a million (xps - I'm not relenting on this one)
― emil.y, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, and thanks clemenza!
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
i only gave crumb 5 points, but despite that its my favorite documentary ever and one of my favorite movies period. the portrait of charles crumb's mental illness by way of his evolving art is unforgettable and unsettling in the extreme. i often used to wonder if i'd end up more like charles or robert.
in retrospect it probably would've been an even better movie if they could've interviewed crumb's sisters, but at the same time how can you blame them for not talking
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
heres my ballot
1. Harlan County, USA (1976) (30 points)2. Streetwise (1984) (30 points)3. Capturing the Friedmans (2003) (5 points)4. Crumb (1994) (5 points)5. Koyaanisqatsi (1982) (5 points)6. Marjoe (1972) (5 points)7. Wattstax (1973) (5 points)8. Heavy Metal Parking Lot (1986) (5 points)9. American Movie (1999) (5 points)10. Dancing Outlaw (1991) (5 points)11. Waco: The Rules of Engagement (1997) (5 points)12. Titicut Follies (1967) (5 points)13. 30 for 30: Once Brothers (2010) (5 points)14. The Corporation (2003) (5 points)15. Sherman's March (1986) (5 points)16. Hoop Dreams (1994) (5 points)17. Pumping Iron (1977) (5 points)18. The Death Of Yugoslavia (1995) (5 points)19. The Century of the Self (2002) (5 points)20. Hype! (1996) (5 points)
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
comics geeks ride again!
this was mine:
Shoah - 20
Hospital - 14
The Sorrow and the Pity - 12
Winter Soldier - 12
Paris Is Burning - 12
General Idi Amin Dada - 8
In the Year of the Pig - 7
Hearts and Minds - 5
Gates of Heaven - 5
Man with a Movie Camera - 5
Law and Order - 5
Stevie - 5
Grey Gardens - 5
Point of Order - 5
Gimme Shelter - 5
Genghis Blues - 5
Sherman’s March - 5
Aileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer - 5
The White Diamond - 5
The Gleaners & I - 5
― satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
^^ ha, word (@ emily & enbb). i think i had seventeen, a married couple, cocksucker blues, poto & cabengo, though.
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link