Gabor Szabo: Who Cares About His MIddle Eastern Modalities Aside From Me And Hurting?

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cant get enough of this dude this week but every time he does a hokey 60's hit/standard it bums me out and i have to switch the track

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Saturday, 13 August 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

"Dreams" LP ftw tho

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Saturday, 13 August 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

i guess not ALL the 60's pop songs-- the live version of "the beat goes on" is pretty great

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Saturday, 13 August 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

ha, aww i know what you mean but there are some that are sweet enough. i can't actually remember what. but sure there were some that passed the time nicely. i'm just going to assume he did dear prudence b/c that sounds about right & cite that. it's not like he's feliciano.

i don't know dreams!, what kind of gabor is it? i just heard some of one of the chico hamilton records he plays on, w/a female vocalist, that sounded kinda nice.

bruce actual springsteen (schlump), Saturday, 13 August 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link

nothing could budge sorceror as my pick fwiw, that is why i am listening to gabor szabo. it feels like it matches an archetype of some kinda ''mystical'' ''eastern'' music that nothing else (that-i-know-about) quite hits.

bruce actual springsteen (schlump), Saturday, 13 August 2011 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

dreams ends w/a donovan cover, feel like you've stabbed me in the back here grady.

bruce actual springsteen (schlump), Saturday, 13 August 2011 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

nothing could budge sorceror as my pick
yeah, i wish more of his stuff was like this tbh. i haven't heard it all, of course.

tylerw, Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

sometimes i just pull out one channel lead from my stereo, play one of his 45s on 33 & join in on handchimes. sorcerizin'.

bruce actual springsteen (schlump), Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

yeh, i understand yr reticence, gr8080. love gabor szabo but mostly his original compositions.

listened to this when i, uh i mean a friend of mine was on drugs one night. amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6fFM0jo1Ig

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

o man that song . love the parts where he's singing and strumming just slightly "off"

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

best played loud.

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

touché, but i did specify "hokey/standard" songs.

"ferris wheel" is so perfect.

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link

pretty sure i've posted this on ilx before but the Mark E edit of "Keep Smiling" is dope imo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAvCA8y_dpY

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:36 (twelve years ago) link

gonna get the cover art to "Dreams" tattooed on my back:
http://i.imgur.com/Cxim1.jpg

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:48 (twelve years ago) link

almond alien eyes in lower right corner giving me traumatic abduction flashbacks tbh

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

bro have you done a thread about that, cause

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

quite possibly??

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:55 (twelve years ago) link

main figure is like a composite, /ideal blind date candidate for, revolver-beatles

bruce actual springsteen (schlump), Saturday, 13 August 2011 02:56 (twelve years ago) link

There's a really good double-disc set to be made of his later 60s stuff minus the kinda hokey covers. He does good covers, too, though! I like "Some Velvet Morning" and "Three Kingfishers."

The Pleasure Garden of Felipe Sagittarius (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 13 August 2011 03:51 (twelve years ago) link

o snap. didn't know he did breezin first. my mom had the george benson record and i used to dig on that a bunch in highschool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz0zYA_12og

and the studio version is amazing!

jaxon, Saturday, 13 August 2011 04:21 (twelve years ago) link

jaxon, have you ever mentioned to your mom that a good 70 percent of ilx ppl are intensely envious of her record collection ?

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 04:49 (twelve years ago) link

every once in a while i get a call like this "hey! where is my joni mitchell album?! you better bring that with you next time you come home"

jaxon, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

lol

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

in my next life i'm gonna be a mom, sweating over a casserole while blasting rickie lee jones' first record. uh, wait, i already do that now! never mind...

dell (del), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

every once in a while i get a call like this "hey! where is my joni mitchell album?! you better bring that with you next time you come home"

i prefer thinking about the long chronology of me stealing records from my parents as a timeline chronicling the evolution of my taste, rather than an act of filial betrayal. like it's funny which ones i used to leave on the shelf and then a couple of family gatherings later zeroed in on and stole.

bruce actual springsteen (schlump), Saturday, 13 August 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

If I had to do a top 10 of musicians with the coolest sounding names he'd definitely be up there.

Moka, Friday, 23 September 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

cool clips! thanks for posting.

tylerw, Friday, 23 September 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

No matter how much of his music I hear, when I hear his name, the first thing I think is always middle-distance Romanian athletics

B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Friday, 23 September 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

I listened to Gabor Szabo for about 2 hours while driving through the Bosnian countryside this past Sunday afternoon. It was perfect.

 (gr8080), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:22 (twelve years ago) link

good combo

mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:55 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

buying so many gabor szabo records lately

i can't believe there are no published biographies/documentary films on this dude

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Saturday, 4 January 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link

I need to get some, see so many of hIs records around for cheap

ilx snitch (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 January 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link

steer clear of the 70s stuff unless bob james style easy jazz is your thing

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Saturday, 4 January 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link

60s stuff is safe?
I bet I'm seeing the 70s stuff

ilx snitch (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 January 2014 18:42 (ten years ago) link

xpost!

with some exceptions of course, mizrab & rambler both have a few tracks of the east~meets~west sound, and night flight is essential if only for "keep smiling"

but i'd say my essential short list, in order, would be:

1. dreams
2. bacchanal
3. jazz raga
4. spellbinder
5. more sorcery

if u spot any of those cheap buy ASAP

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Saturday, 4 January 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link

are you deliberately excluding the sorcerer or is it just implicit that it is the mothership

mustread guy (schlump), Saturday, 4 January 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link

almost anything from the 60's is great, but i'm personally averse to a lot of the pop music covers

"faces" from 77 is prob the only one i could go without ever hearing again entirely

xpost lol i guess sorcerer would be my #6? maybe i need to relisten soon!

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Saturday, 4 January 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link

ha you should! i need to check your list but it's so good. the spacy first half especially.
i have a higher tolerance for gabor doing like a mellow instrumental lucy in the sky with diamonds than i do hearing jose feliciano but that stuff is kinda forgettable, yeah

mustread guy (schlump), Saturday, 4 January 2014 19:07 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttwcTL5uolg

mustread guy (schlump), Saturday, 4 January 2014 19:09 (ten years ago) link

^^ have this on the "his greatest hits" double LP from 1971, also a must-buy, only a few duds on it

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Saturday, 4 January 2014 19:12 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

the recently released 1965 recordings w/ szabo, charles lloyd, ron carter + pet larocca are pretty awesome. maybe charles lloyd needs his own thread, that'd be wildly popular.
does gabor get cred for being a feedback pioneer? he's doing some cool stuff here, which seems pretty ahead of the curve for 1965.

tylerw, Friday, 6 February 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link

I enjoyed "Night Flight", went well in groove and decadent "yacht" mixes I made.

SCOTTISH PEOPLE ONLY (I M Losted), Friday, 6 February 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link

Chico Hamilton's Man from Two Worlds is a good one to check out, as that is probably the best all around group Szabo played with.

― earlnash, Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:14 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

second this

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 6 February 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link

I haven't listened to this dude for years, I dug out Bacchanal tonight and damn it is so good.

xelab, Friday, 6 February 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link

bacchanal is so good

gr8080, Friday, 6 February 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link

yeah it is! didn't realize until recently that it's jim keltner playing drums there (went on to play with ... pretty much everyone).

tylerw, Friday, 6 February 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link

had no idea he a) had a drug problem and b) went to scientology to take their cure, with predictable results (ie lawsuits)

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 February 2015 23:16 (nine years ago) link

hey who didn't get through the 70s without a drug problem or a flirtation with a cult or both

tylerw, Friday, 6 February 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link

lol true I just kinda figured he was a square

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 February 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link

Fantasy concert I am going to image in my head: The Pentangle, Gabor Szabo, Popol Vuh.

rabatment of the rectangle (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 19 February 2015 04:04 (nine years ago) link

imagINe that is. Can't type anymore.

rabatment of the rectangle (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 19 February 2015 04:05 (nine years ago) link

mizrab is the best

gr8080, Thursday, 19 February 2015 11:39 (nine years ago) link

yeah i could listen to mizrab over and over and never get tired of it.
gonna reemphasize my recommendation of that charles lloyd live thing! been listening to it a ton, just wonderful music throughout.

tylerw, Thursday, 19 February 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link

does gabor get cred for being a feedback pioneer?

I think a little bit, but what he does with it is so subtle and controlled I don't know if people really catch it.

― master shammer (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, February 7, 2015 6:04 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In the John French Beefheart book he mentions them (orig magic band) seeing Szabo play in the early 60s and being impressed with his feedback use

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 February 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link

oh no kidding! that is cool. i have a hunch jerry garcia was listening as well.

tylerw, Thursday, 19 February 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

thought i'd arrived at the end of the road wrt szabo' output till i discovered his work with the chico hamilton quintet:

https://youtu.be/0BJNxVf_iLM

https://youtu.be/_Wn4-NSu64w

gr8080, Sunday, 19 April 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link

Yeah "El Chico" is a really good album! Man From Two Worlds has Gabor on it too.

^^^ NOT METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:16 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzYsnq9-JvQ

Treeship, Sunday, 27 November 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link

maybe charles lloyd needs his own thread, that'd be wildly popular.

― tylerw, Friday, February 6, 2015 2:21 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm all for this. I've been enjoying lots of Charles Lloyd these days, especially Big Sur Tapestry and some of his new age-y things. "Forest Flower" is of course classic, and the most recent one I heard (Hyperion with Higgins?) was excellent as well. Could use a proper thorough S&D, I'm just sorta dipping into his catalog at random and there is--predictably--quite a bit to hear

Wimmels, Sunday, 27 November 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

Charles Lloyd’s latest record is appearing in some year end roundups: 8: Kindred Spirits, Live From The Lobero.

But I can to post about an interesting spinoff from Gabor Szabo’s band I just became aware of, something called The Advancement. How to describe their single album? Kind of psych, proggy horror movie giallo vibe.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 December 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link

I too care about Gabor's middle eastern modalities but.. the album he plays sitar on? That is some of the worst sitar playing I've ever heard in my life, I think I could play sitar better. Why didn't anyone on the session tell him it was miles out of tune?

ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Monday, 7 December 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link

Dunno, but there’s nothing out of tune on The Advancement album.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 December 2020 00:35 (three years ago) link

Don't remember seeing this thread before---how long, o Lord, before I give this guy theee attention he deserves? Mentions of Lloyd remind me of my Rolling Jazz 2019 post:
Looking for Charles Lloyd on Bandcamp, found Manhattan Stories (2014), comprised of
Two 1965 New York Concerts, Disc 1 recorded at Judson Hall & Disc 2 recorded at Slugs' Saloon.
A remarkable and previously unrecorded quartet featuring three jazz giants: guitarist Gábor Szabó, bassist Ron Carter and drummer Pete La Roca.
'It was a specific time and place'; Lloyd told Manhattan Stories annotator Don Heckman. 'We all felt like the boundaries were being dissolved and we could do or try anything. This is a music of freedom and wonder -- we were young and on the move.'
Which is just what the sample track, "Sweet Georgia Brown," sounds like (17' 49", but quite spritely). Especially digging the interplay of guitar and sax, bass and cymbals, also succinct solos, esp. PLR's and Szabo's---the latter bright and brittle, autumn leaves, but def not drifting. What other Szabo should I check? Used to see his LPs...
https://charleslloyd.bandcamp.com/

dow, Monday, 7 December 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link

Checking that out now, thanks

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 December 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link

There was a piece on szabo in ugly things 2 issues back. Possibly 3 by now.

Stevolende, Monday, 7 December 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link


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