Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

i think you should watch it all -- why not? it gets bad, but that's part of the show just as much as the good episodes.

fastforward through the James-on-a-motorcycle scenes and you should be good

that's what killed me on my one rewatch, in 1994

I guess the heart and soul of the show was laura's mystery so when it was solved... no excitment. But they shoul dhave just kept on with BOB - BOB goes into someone else body and kills more

well they do get back to that, it's just too little too late, no?

think that's part of what bugs me about the end. if harry and hawk had any sense they'd keep coop locked in a cell for the rest of his life.

Man Fire Walk With Me is really not much of anything like the show. The show is really light in comparison. Actually upon second watch its kind of funny - Laura's expressions of terror are raelly over the top at times. Overall I found Laura so annoying

watching this for the first time as of yesterday

first ep is great in parts, mostly kinda boring, too long

still, i'm in the twin peaks world now, willing to give it a go

I am trying to get out of the TP world now but its hard - I feel like I'm stuck in the lodge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibn3wzHIE6Y&feature=related

oh wow

omg @ Leo's Michael Bolton hair that is unbelievable

I bet Latham's post would look amazing out of context, what with TP standing for toilet paper in the real world.

there is no real world - all of those cast members on donahue seem very uncomfortable or drugged or something except piper

Wow, Donohue is so doddering, I don't remember him being that bad.

Twin peaks theme was my walking into assembly @ primary school music, that and eric satie gymnopodies

IPhone auto correct 'gym poodles'

I used to have a gym poodle theme until they all died.
I particularly like the audience in that donahue - nice eighties styles

Last night I just finished watching the series in it's entirety for the first time in a few years. A new roommate of mine had never seen it, so I was all "Let me join you on this epic journey".

I had forgotten just how awesome that last episode is. Once he got in the Black Lodge my hairs were on edge cos I forgot exactly what happens except for that terrifying screaming Laura doppelganger and I knew that what coming and it freaked me out.

My roommate loved it, and just said she wished that last episode was an extended 2-hour one or something. I agree, tho yeah thank God it's there at all.

Also, during the second season I kept seeing these little surrealist touches that the non-Lynch directors were putting in, quite obviously as an homage or something. These just don't have the impact of anything from that first season, and it's mainly because David Lynch doesn't just think of a random idea for the purpose of being random, he really does go into this unconscious place (TM, whatever you call it) and for that reason even the most outlandish stuff has some kind of coherence, however subliminal.

People that say "Oh, David Lynch just films random nonsense, anyone can do that" are completely missing the point.

fastforward through the James-on-a-motorcycle scenes and you should be good

OTM. James is my least-favorite main character.

Tho it is fun to joke about him leaving Twin Peaks to audition for the Twilight movies.

Been slowly making my way through it again for the last year. You're right about the non-Lynch directors. Watched S2 ep 15 the other night and the meta-ness was particularly distracting. It was directed by Diane Keaton!

just youuuuuuuuuuuu
and Iiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Keaton's episode has some funny stuff in it but the tone is really odd

i've done that (re-watched the show thanks to a friend who hadn't seen it) a few times since the early '90s... and there's always some point mid-2nd season where i bail. but i always come back for the last episode.

wish i lived in twin peaks.

Dana Ashbrook is doing a Q&A at a Fire Walk with Me screening here, but alas not the one I have a ticket for.

"Dana, what have you been up to since the film?"

::crickets::

... and there's always some point mid-2nd season where i bail.

this. took about 2 weeks to watch S1. Six-plus months (so far) for S2. Must...Power...Thru!

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don't let yrself be hurt this time

oh man, the angelo badalementi thing at the beginning of this mix!

http://soundcloud.com/everybodywantstobethedj/nicolas-jaar-essential-mix-05

<3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwvSFOEfHJE

still one of my all time favorite you tubes, such a great storyteller!

This is probably a common speculation but it just hit me - - - does anyone else feel like the final storyline with Cooper going into the Black Lodge for Annie was originally intended for Audrey before their relationship was squelched? It would make a lot more sense in terms of the idea of Coop being somehow corrupted or making an error of judgement. He falls for the teenager and this takes him off his guard as well as off the pedestal of moral clarity where he could have conceivably stood up to the Black Lodge. Or am I crazy?

Also (I'm rewatching btw, or re-listening...have this on in another window while I get stuff done, it's like a radio play!) I think a lot of what was missing in the second season also was just that with the Laura thing wrapped up, the emotional stakes for the characters just naturally went way down. Lynch or no Lynch - - - there's something that resonates and creeps out much more when everyone is reeling from this death. Like, just now was the scene with Leland crying and dancing at the Great Northern while the visiting Finns struggle to understand what's going on, and Catherine passes his strained crying and face-wrenching as a new dance move. There's a really potent tension there between the goofiness of the stock "character does something wacky, others think it's a new dance craze!" gag, and the genuine affective touch of this poor guy who's lost his daughter (we don't yet know he's the killer) and is just a traumatized wreck. Nothing in Season 2 can touch that but it's not ... oh shit the scene with leo and shelley and the gun just came on

This is probably a common speculation but it just hit me - - - does anyone else feel like the final storyline with Cooper going into the Black Lodge for Annie was originally intended for Audrey before their relationship was squelched? It would make a lot more sense in terms of the idea of Coop being somehow corrupted or making an error of judgement. He falls for the teenager and this takes him off his guard as well as off the pedestal of moral clarity where he could have conceivably stood up to the Black Lodge. Or am I crazy?

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this makes a TON of sense.

Oh man, I'd forgotten the amnesiac super-strength Nadine thing started well before the Laura Palmer resolution. Wow. I wonder if there was ever a plan for how that was going to fit in, or if it was just a product of "let's turn soap opera cliches to 11" thinking.

does anyone else feel like the final storyline with Cooper going into the Black Lodge for Annie was originally intended for Audrey before their relationship was squelched? It would make a lot more sense in terms of the idea of Coop being somehow corrupted or making an error of judgement. He falls for the teenager and this takes him off his guard as well as off the pedestal of moral clarity where he could have conceivably stood up to the Black Lodge.

Yeah, this makes sense. As discussed upthread, the "flaw" that allows the Black Lodge to corrupt Cooper seems to be him falling for Annie... But that feels weird, because the there's nothing wrong or immoral in their relationship, they're both adults and single. If (as it seems) Annie was introduced as a replacement for the Cooper/Audrey relationship Kyle MacLachlan squelched, they should've at least added some immoral element to their relationship so that Coop's corruption would've made sense.

Audrey in the Black Lodge also would have made an interesting variation on the midway-point storyline where he rescues her from another "red room" (at One-Eyed Jack's); this time, getting her out comes at the cost of his own life/soul.

if only they had license to drive-era heather graham.

actually they should just redo season 2 with CGI.

all of the shit plotlines they can just replace with an extended subplot of agent cooper battling various giant beasts on mars or something.

Surprised no one has (to my knowledge) done a fan-edit just axing 1/3 to 1/2 of the post-Leland running time. Sure, a few things wouldn't exactly make sense, but in Twin Peaks that'd just feel like part of the ambience.

TBH that still wouldn't save a lot of the later episodes.

went here last night for the inaugural screening of the Twin Peaks pilot & episode 1, great to see this on a big screen with a crowd of appreciative people.

sometimes I think Major Briggs is my favorite character. all his dialogue is aces.

The other day it occurred to me that Dr. Jacoby is David Cross's (soon-to-be) father-in-law.

Major Briggs going into 'father mode' with Bobby is one of my fav things.

Rebellion in a young man your age is a necessary fact of life, and, candidly, a sign of strength. In other words, Robert, I respect your rebellious nature. However, being your father, I am obligated to contain that fire of contrariness within the bounds established by society as well as those within our family structure.

^ya just watched that one yesterday too. certain characters kinda steal whatever scene they're in - it's been a while since i watched the whole series but i didn't remember thinking nadine was as hilarious as she is in the first couple eps