when super-white whit stillman made a film about spain the results were not so great (at least compared to his other films)
― buzza, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
white stillman, amirite
― horseshoe, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
i think there is disagreement on that point, but barcelona is my least favorite stillman, too
― horseshoe, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
spanish people are white btw
He got worse with each film.
― livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
o u last days of disco haters >:[
― horseshoe, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
My grandfather's side of the family is Asturian, and they would be quite upset if you thought them non-white.
i like last days
― buzza, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
i think "spain" represents something other than middle-america whitebread, i don't think anyone was claiming spaniards as people of color
― buzza, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
oh i was just being annoying i love whit stillman! and movies about white people!
― horseshoe, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
I would love to watch Alexander Payne's version of Othello
― smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rigenweb/stones1/StillmanWhite.jpg
― buzza, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
^ whit stillman's grand uncle iirc
― Lamp, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
Othello, Nebraska:
Nick Nolte as OthelloPeter Fonda as IagoSwoowie Kurtz as Desdemona Jared Hess as CassioConor Oberst as Rodrigo
^^^ would actually be the worst film ever made
― smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
i do think what i find irritating about sideways is treating white middle-class men's interest in wine and women who are prettier than they are as so fucking fascinating, but the white middle-class part is probably a red herring. i don't know to articulate what i dislike about that movie i'd probably have to watch it again and that's not going to happen.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
whit stillman is way better than this guy. last days of disco 4e.
― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
if you didn't enjoy last days of disco you should have just danced through it, it is jiving
― (oboe interlude) (schlump), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
lol now why tf would this alexander payne thread be going off on a quiet sunday afternoon
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
its raining outside!!!
― Lamp, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
raining racism
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
a torrential downpour of white privilege
icey who do u think is more racist: alexander payne or paul simon?
― Lamp, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
i said he made white films for white people, people objected, we caviled, nobody had much heart or stake so the discussion crawled under the jungle gym where it's sullenly drawing in the dirt with a stick
― smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
blame it on the payne
― buzza, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
Hey, that's my stick.
― boxall, Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw i don't object to the assertion that his movies are largely populated with and consumed by omg white people, i just feel like singling this one guy out (i guess because most of the comparable contemporaries are commercially successful enough that studios think it necessary to shoehorn a sassy black friend into their flicks) for the "super-whiteness of his oeuvre" is kind of a loaded and strangely tacky way to address the generally complex and worthwhile subject of race in contemporary film
― Autism Alamac (some dude), Sunday, 7 August 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
although i guess we can tackle the insufficiency of his writing for female characters by saying his movies are mega-penile or something
― Autism Alamac (some dude), Sunday, 7 August 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
superwhite mega-penile
― livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 August 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
the milieu depicted in the film is obnoxious, but i remember enjoying sideways and thinking it was pretty funny.
― thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Sunday, 7 August 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
i didn't mean to turn you on, alfred
― Autism Alamac (some dude), Sunday, 7 August 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
i'm nothing if not loaded and tacky, it's true
― smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Sunday, 7 August 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
http://jkrbooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451af1569e2010535d69fd7970c-800wi
― smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Sunday, 7 August 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
"Remember when I asked that black guy if he liked Sideways?"-Liz Lemon, hyperwhite.
― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 7 August 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
like it's a good point, some dude, that AP's no worse than a lot of his peers. but there's something more blatant? tossed-off? about race, society, gender, whatever, in payne's films that is espesh irksome to me. david lynch as well. just a casually all-white cast in movies that are supposed to be about, you know, the all-caps American experience.
― smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Sunday, 7 August 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
feel like paynes films are p blatantly abt 'white culture' - like i somewhat give them a pass for their verisimilitude - not that its not in some sense stylized and ott - theyre just you know v observant and cutting - tho i dont doubt that irl thered be more not white people living the lyfe depicted in the films
― ice cr?m, Monday, 8 August 2011 01:41 (twelve years ago) link
let's go through his movies and pick out the characters that should clearly have been played by actors of color
― Autism Alamac (some dude), Monday, 8 August 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
should prob have its own board tbh
― ice cr?m, Monday, 8 August 2011 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
i love black payne
― Autism Alamac (some dude), Monday, 8 August 2011 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
but you don't understand, that's the name of my dog
― smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Monday, 8 August 2011 01:50 (twelve years ago) link
http://nyc3img.soundclick.com/27/images/b/band/blackpayne.jpg?version=107
http://c2.ac-postto.myspacecdn.com/postto01/1/3d44e284aadc4e5cac47ed800fcf199a/s.jpg
― smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Monday, 8 August 2011 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fGX28fcdCsI/TbiZ3H7OZiI/AAAAAAAAVug/A-NjuHEdHIc/s1600/Tyler-Perrys-House-of-Payne.jpg
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 8 August 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― Autism Alamac (some dude), Monday, 8 August 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6136/6019991227_7b34110b5d.jpg via flickr
― smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Monday, 8 August 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link
:D
― Lamp, Monday, 8 August 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link
http://videogum.com/310102/being-white-is-hard-the-descendants-trailer-you-guys/movies/trailer/
― buzza, Monday, 8 August 2011 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
Jeb | Posted on May 26th
Alexander Payne is white people’s answer to Tyler Perry.
― buzza, Monday, 8 August 2011 02:38 (twelve years ago) link
that looks good!
― ice cr?m, Monday, 8 August 2011 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
srsly?
― jed_, Monday, 8 August 2011 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
hey i like this guys movies what can i say
― ice cr?m, Monday, 8 August 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link