System of a Down "Toxicity"

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Toxicity
Not just because my friend told me it was 'cider! cider! the soiiiiiderrrr!' the first time I heard it.

kinder, Sunday, 7 August 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

wheeeeen i became the sun i shone life into the JANSPORT!

Autism Alamac (some dude), Sunday, 7 August 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha

markers, Sunday, 7 August 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

blast off, it's party time, and we all live in a fascist nation

markers, Sunday, 7 August 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

wrong album?

billstevejim, Monday, 8 August 2011 05:01 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but it's a classic line

markers, Monday, 8 August 2011 05:19 (twelve years ago) link

Shimmy

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Monday, 8 August 2011 13:32 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't heard this album for ever. The girl I was dating when this album was fresh out did an awesome "Chop Suey" at karaoke.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 8 August 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

I'm totally burned out on "Chop Suey", guys. Like, maybe permanently.

Still tons of great songs on here. I'm voting either "Forest" or "Needles", but "Atwa", "Shimmy", "Aerials", and "X" I like almost as much...

standards r. poor (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 8 August 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

It's a good gym record.

My thoughts exactly.
Can't help but associate Avril Lavigne's "Chop Suey" cover with this, though I do remember enjoying it. Crazy that this is gonna be 10 years old.

frogbs, Monday, 8 August 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

listening to this today

MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCES

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Monday, 8 August 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

This band is doomed to be underrated.

dlp9001, Monday, 8 August 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

Deer Dance 4EVA! I don't understand why that wasn't the single. Holy mackerel.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 8 August 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

I cannot choose, this album is amazing. All the songs sound a bit the same, but somehow SOAD make that into a plus point.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 8 August 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe Prison Song though, great statement of intent.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 8 August 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

INDOCTRINATION
OF OUR NATION
INDOCTRINATION
OF OUR NATION

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Monday, 8 August 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

you know i might vote "forest" or "atwa" but i am now most moved by the wild insistent stomping of the title track

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Monday, 8 August 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

it is like a march with some of the elements subtracted

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Monday, 8 August 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

coda of "psycho" is a fucking spiral

in case you didn't know

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Monday, 8 August 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

Makes you high makes you high makes you really wanna go STOP!

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 8 August 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

Noel Gallagher: "Do you ever look at the sky and think, I'm glad I'm alive? After I heard System of a Down, I thought, I'm actually alive to hear the shittiest band of all time. Which is quite something when you think about it. Of all the bands that have gone before and all the bands that'll be in the future, I was around when the worst was around."

This made me love System even more.

billstevejim, Monday, 8 August 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

Also they're one of the best live bands I've ever seen.

billstevejim, Monday, 8 August 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

That Noel Gallagher quote is amazing, he should stop making music and concentrate on just giving interviews. And yes System of a Down were spectacular live. I drove from Cardiff to London on the spur of the moment to see them and they totally made it worth the journey.

nate woolls, Monday, 8 August 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, that's a hefty journey!

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 8 August 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

really love the big singles off this record -- eating seeds as a pastime activity reminds me of 9th grade geometry class

markers, Monday, 8 August 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

Chop Suey, title track, Aerials, was there a fourth single?

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 8 August 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

xp sorry markers but title track is my least favorite song on this

standards r. poor (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 8 August 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

"Deer Dance" otoh--I had forgotten about that song, but that song is f'in killer!!! and the way it segues into "Jet Pilot" is brilliant

standards r. poor (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 8 August 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

"Prison Song" was an airplay-only single with a live video but not a hit like the other 3

some dude, Monday, 8 August 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

I hated Chop Suey for the first 20 times I heard it - generally on MTV - but then I kinda gave in to the awesome video and the next 200 listens were awesome. Good album.

kraudive, Monday, 8 August 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't heard this album for ever. The girl I was dating when this album was fresh out did an awesome "Chop Suey" at karaoke.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, August 8, 2011 6:42 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

jon you went out with Avril Lavigne??!?

his loser, bum of a son, named Jesus Christ (Leee), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 04:25 (twelve years ago) link

SHIMMY SHIMMY SHIMMY TIL THE BREAK OF DAWN YEEEEAWWWWWW

Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 04:30 (twelve years ago) link

^^ put this album in like once a year, get restless after one or two tracks and have to switch it to this and repeat

Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 04:31 (twelve years ago) link

blast off, it's party time, and WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU?

markers, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 04:31 (twelve years ago) link

this album fucking rules

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 04:39 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty fun record. Even the closing instrumental is cool.

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 August 2011 05:34 (twelve years ago) link

Have you guys all heard Steal This Album? It's remarkably good for a bits n bobs album, on some days it's my favourite of theirs.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 05:36 (twelve years ago) link

SHIMMY SHIMMY SHIMMY TIL THE BREAK OF DAWN YEEEEAWWWWWW

― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Tuesday, August 9, 2011 12:30 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 05:45 (twelve years ago) link

Can't be said enough imo.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 05:45 (twelve years ago) link

Is Shimmy gonna win? I might go with ATWA.

I also like System of a Down more because Pitchfork didn't put them in the P2K best of the decade thing.

billstevejim, Thursday, 11 August 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

of course they didn't.

i listened to this album today, was better than i remember. i love how everything zips by so fast that "Aerials" feels like this long drawn out epic when it's actually less than 4 minutes long.

dogps (some dude), Thursday, 11 August 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

btw apparently SOAD played some shows together recently, for the first time in like 5 years! i had no idea! no confirmation that they'll be making a new album or anything, but it's still really encouraging to hear, they're one of those bands that i love but i just can't stand any of the offshoot bands or solo projects.

dogps (some dude), Thursday, 11 August 2011 02:04 (twelve years ago) link

Serj's first solo thing was pretty much shite, though it did gift the world with the excellent song title 'Beethoven's Cunt'.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, 11 August 2011 08:29 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 12 August 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 13 August 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

software version seven point imo

(markers) (markers) (markers) (markers) (markers), Saturday, 13 August 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

HOW DO YOU OWN DISORDER

(markers) (markers) (markers) (markers) (markers), Saturday, 13 August 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

preferring "Toxicity" to "Chop Suey!" is so fucked

some dude, Sunday, 14 August 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

Wtf these results are so boring

billstevejim, Sunday, 14 August 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

ilx not cool enough to know SOAD past the singles (and even if we did a singles poll those same 3 songs would get almost all the votes)

some dude, Sunday, 14 August 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

Wtf these results are so boring

― billstevejim, Saturday, August 13, 2011 8:28 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark

billstevejim, Friday, 11 May 2012 06:48 (eleven years ago) link

six years pass...

I feel like I miss these guys a little extra of late. (Also, they were way ahead of the left zeitgeist on the whole prison-abolition tip.)

Simon H., Saturday, 16 June 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

Toxicity
Or aerials. Hard to decide

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Saturday, 16 June 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

SOAD politics seemed pretty regular post RATM? I'm not sure they were saying anything I wasn't hearing from the anarcho-punks I was hanging out with back then.

Frederik B, Saturday, 16 June 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

I'd probably throw a boring vote to Toxicity as well. Did anyone figure out what happened to this band, btw? Major breakthrough, big dominant double album, but with a newly dominant voice asserting himself, then nothing... Seems like a good story for a tell all book.

Frederik B, Saturday, 16 June 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

Deer Dance. 17 years later it still sounds strange.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 16 June 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

SOAD politics seemed pretty regular post RATM?

With the benefit of a little more specificity, plus of course all the wacky stuff.

Simon H., Saturday, 16 June 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link

As far as the extended hiatus goes, no idea what that's about. If the Parts Unknown ep is anything to go by, Tankian at least seems like a sweet guy

Simon H., Saturday, 16 June 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

One of the few times in rock history where a long recording hiatus is literally mostly down to what you might call "creative differences."

https://www.stereogum.com/2005685/system-of-a-down-new-music-explanation/news/

Simon H., Saturday, 14 July 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link

Whenever it happens it's gonna rule.

billstevejim, Saturday, 14 July 2018 06:44 (five years ago) link

Title track is my least favorite. Top 4 for me are Forest, Atwa, Chop Suey, and Aerials

bedraggled vorticist (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 15 July 2018 07:48 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

Caught these guys last night... automatically slotted into my top 5 all-time concerts.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

setlist
http://i63.tinypic.com/2qlr5lx.jpg

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

Would've voted for Needles btw.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link

holy shit that's a setlist

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

It woulda been difficult for me to choose between 'Needles', 'Forest', 'ATWA' or 'Psycho' ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link

holy shit that's a setlist

― Ross, Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:08 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah they just kept rolling out smash after smash. Lonely Day was the only real breather but even it kinda rocked cos everyone was screaming along, never liked that song but it made sense in that setting, the harmonies were so on point.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

they're back playing shows? I thought they were feuding again

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link

OCT 17
VALLEY VIEW CASINO CENTER
SAN DIEGO, CA

OCT 19
T-MOBILE ARENA
LAS VEGAS, NV

looks like that's all for now

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

it's a 5 show tour ending in a festival headline. all out west here. quick cash grab I'm sure.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

Yeah, this is a surprise to me too... the last I heard, Daron was ranting that Serj wasn't into doing any new material?

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

wait the headline show was the sacramento show. yeah they are still beefing but maybe this will help to mend fences who knows.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

acc to that Stereogum story, iirc they don't have much of an issue playing the old stuff live, all the conflict seems to be around new approaches to hypothetical new stuff.

That's a great setlist, nice to see so much from Steal This Album.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link

Glad they're busting out a lot of Steal This Album tunes, it's really underrated.

chap, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

totally

i loooove spiders too, classic track

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link

Wouldn't be at all bothered if they never played or mentioned Lonely Day again, however.

chap, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

This band hits different these days

my Least Favorite Writer (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 12 August 2021 15:59 (two years ago) link

every System of a Down song is like—

i’m the mushroom man, i’m the mushroom man. oh ho! oh! oh! In June 2003, Amnesty International published reports of human rights abuses by the U.S. military and its coalition partners at detention centers and prisons in Iraq.[26] These inclu-

— mister cries at work (@mistermoviespod) August 12, 2021

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 August 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link

That's good

my Least Favorite Writer (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 12 August 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link

In the wake of responses to the Woodstock 99 documentary I wanted to Tweet this:

Nu metal activated my white male rage and me and my bros got in a System of a Down mosh pit and dismantled the prison industrial complex

my Least Favorite Writer (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 12 August 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link

why is this album so good?

"Toxicity" probably is the strongest overall, "Chop Suey!" maybe the most classic, but also most classically silly, "Forest" and "Science" deserved more love. Also kind of wish the "Chop Suey!"/"Crocodile Rock" mashup was an option.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 12 August 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link

"Prison Song" was my first exposure to any discourse on that topic. But the HBO doc would never dare acknowledge anything like that and mess up their entirely logical narrative.

billstevejim, Thursday, 12 August 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link

tbh I would pump the mushroom man sound. It sounds dope as fuck.

billstevejim, Thursday, 12 August 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

*song, not sound

billstevejim, Thursday, 12 August 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link


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